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Odd thing though....... they don't sell 'em in local grocery stores
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10-02-2014, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye101
This is a good thing for Alberta Lakes. Years of scientific research have finally proven that there are not enough lakes in Alberta to sustain a commercial fishery with the population boom that was forecasted 20 years ago. Whitefish choking out lakes? C'mon people. Seriously? There will be more bigger Pike, Walleye and Lake Trout caught in the near future due to this closure. Finally something is done correctly. Now if they can just introduce a slot sized limit to protect the big breeders, that would put the icing on the cake!
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halle-freakin-lujah!! I'll have my sights set on Pigeon again after the recent commercial raping of that lake. This is the best news I've heard!
No crap about the whitefish comment destroying lakes....AJ, are you on friggin dope??? ...don't answer that.
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10-02-2014, 10:38 PM
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halle-freakin-lujah!! I'll have my sights set on Pigeon again after the recent commercial raping of that lake. This is the best news I've heard!
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hell yea! love catchin them whites
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10-03-2014, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aulrich
Mind you given time, white's can grow very large, can you imaging a 20 pounder on a fly rod in open water 
To really leverage this change they would have to start to protect bigger pike. So something like a kill zone of 63-75 cm then one tag/tear for a pike over 100 cm. |
I know people who have caught 21 and 22 lb whites in a net many moons ago
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10-03-2014, 08:19 AM
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Don't forget that we have a carp epidemic, increasing population of whitefish is a good thing, it might keep carp under control within reservoirs.
I'd hook a whitefish over walleye anytime!
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10-03-2014, 04:50 PM
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Don't forget that we have a carp epidemic, increasing population of whitefish is a good thing, it might keep carp under control within reservoirs.
I'd hook a whitefish over walleye anytime!
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You must be kidding, right ?
for me,
1st choice = perch
2nd choice = walleye
3rd choice = whites
4th choice = trout
5th choice = pike
Whites are def not the number 1 choice for most. Fun to catch, YES !
Try some perch or walleye boneless fillets cooked properly and I bet you would retract that statement. I would like the white populations to increace but would rather the perch and walleye more. JMO Taste way better!
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10-03-2014, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kim473
You must be kidding, right ?
for me,
1st choice = perch
2nd choice = walleye
3rd choice = whites
4th choice = trout
5th choice = pike
Whites are def not the number 1 choice for most. Fun to catch, YES !
Try some perch or walleye boneless fillets cooked properly and I bet you would retract that statement. I would like the white populations to increace but would rather the perch and walleye more. JMO Taste way better!
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I honestly prefer a cold water pike or whitefish over walleye and I don't know why so many people want to make trophy walleye lakes. JMO
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10-03-2014, 06:36 PM
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I like lake whitefish for sport and sometimes for table.
With lake walleye it's like someone rings a door bell and when you open the door no one's there.
River walleye on the other hand are at least harder to catch, and better conditioned for sportier fight. Plus they tend to grow fairly large compared to lake cousin.
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10-03-2014, 06:45 PM
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Whites are spectacular canned. One can hardly tell the difference between canned salmon or whites. And anything done at home is better than out of the processed cans. Add a little chili flakes in the jar and its awesome stuff.
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10-03-2014, 10:07 PM
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I honestly prefer a cold water pike or whitefish over walleye and I don't know why so many people want to make trophy walleye lakes. JMO |
Cold water fish taste better to me...... unless its polluted like the bow
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10-05-2014, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye101
This is a good thing for Alberta Lakes. Years of scientific research have finally proven that there are not enough lakes in Alberta to sustain a commercial fishery with the population boom that was forecasted 20 years ago. Whitefish choking out lakes? C'mon people. Seriously? There will be more bigger Pike, Walleye and Lake Trout caught in the near future due to this closure. Finally something is done correctly. Now if they can just introduce a slot sized limit to protect the big breeders, that would put the icing on the cake!
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I agree. X 2
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10-05-2014, 04:53 PM
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I doubt very much if they will shut the native commercial fishing down in Cold Lake, Winifred, Lake Athabasca, etc.
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I believe the battle has just started. What happens to the Commercial Fishing licences . These Commercial Fisherman have thousands invested in gear and boats. Is the Province of Alberta going to pay them out . Civil Litigation maybe ?
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I believe the battle has just started. What happens to the Commercial Fishing licences . These Commercial Fisherman have thousands invested in gear and boats. Is the Province of Alberta going to pay them out . Civil Litigation maybe ?
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Amen Cat.
Try finding the tonnage of fish taken by native nets from Alberta lakes for subsistence.
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10-05-2014, 05:36 PM
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Amen Cat.
Try finding the tonnage of fish taken by native nets from Alberta lakes for subsistence.
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Has anybody ever asked ESRD that question ?
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10-05-2014, 05:38 PM
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Amen Cat.
Try finding the tonnage of fish taken by native nets from Alberta lakes for subsistence.
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Try finding the tonnage of fish kept by anglers every year I would bet its much greater than native/metis fishing
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Try finding the tonnage of fish kept by anglers every year I would bet its much greater than native/metis fishing
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Even from waters that have no retention limit? Trout ponds don't count
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10-05-2014, 06:48 PM
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Glad to hear! This is great news.
For those worried about whitefish taking over and choking out all the other species, think of the "untouched" lakes in Northern Alberta with whites in them. These lakes aren't commercial fished and whites up to and over 5 lbs cohabit the lakes with many other species (including up to 50 lb jacks).
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10-06-2014, 04:30 PM
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I honestly prefer a cold water pike or whitefish over walleye and I don't know why so many people want to make trophy walleye lakes. JMO |
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10-06-2014, 09:58 PM
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Lake white fish on fly rod is the best sport fish in alberta. I hope some of lakes they come back to how they were.
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10-07-2014, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PlatinumBarMan
Glad to hear! This is great news.
For those worried about whitefish taking over and choking out all the other species, think of the "untouched" lakes in Northern Alberta with whites in them. These lakes aren't commercial fished and whites up to and over 5 lbs cohabit the lakes with many other species (including up to 50 lb jacks).
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The key word "untouched" yes there is a natural balance.
In lakes/reservoirs that are fished by man, and the predator fish(walleye/pike) being removed the natural balance is gone!
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10-07-2014, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish
The key word "untouched" yes there is a natural balance.
In lakes/reservoirs that are fished by man, and the predator fish(walleye/pike) being removed the natural balance is gone!
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Name a lake or reservoir that has been taken over by white-fish that is not being commercial netted in Alta. Or Sask.
Chin Res. , Travers, are 2 res. that have not been netted for years and doing just fine.
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10-07-2014, 10:40 PM
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Name a lake or reservoir that has been taken over by white-fish that is not being commercial netted in Alta. Or Sask.
Chin Res. , Travers, are 2 res. that have not been netted for years and doing just fine.
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Never said anything about taking over.
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Great news
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10-08-2014, 12:38 PM
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Never said anything about taking over. |
But you said the natural balance has been removed, So what is wrong with that, the decision to eliminate commercial netting in Alberta is a very good move.
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Name a lake or reservoir that has been taken over by white-fish that is not being commercial netted in Alta. Or Sask.
Chin Res. , Travers, are 2 res. that have not been netted for years and doing just fine.
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Didn't they just shut down the walleye in Travers? Yep doing great!
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10-08-2014, 03:18 PM
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Didn't they just shut down the walleye in Travers? Yep doing great!
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Correct, but we are talking about effects of commercial fishing on lakes and res. in Alberta.
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10-08-2014, 09:37 PM
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Correct, but we are talking about effects of commercial fishing on lakes and res. in Alberta.
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Exactly, used to be netted and then shut down.
With the closure these lakes are are going to spike and fall in all kinds of different directions, it will take many-many years before they level off. Shutting it down is not the right way of doing things but hey it was easiest for them this way.
More monitoring and slot limits or tags would have been better but too late now.
Let's review this subject in 2-3 years and see how the fishing is, my 2 cents.
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Exactly, used to be netted and then shut down.
With the closure these lakes are are going to spike and fall in all kinds of different directions, it will take many-many years before they level off. Shutting it down is not the right way of doing things but hey it was easiest for them this way.
More monitoring and slot limits or tags would have been better but too late now.
Let's review this subject in 2-3 years and see how the fishing is, my 2 cents.
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The walleye fishery at Travers was shut down as result of 1 test netting and Terry Clayton, the person in charge of the fishery at the time, said that the test netting showed that there was a shortage of walleye in the 4 and 5 year class, so instead of using the option of reducing the daily walleye limit from 3 fish to 1 fish over 50 cm. or 1 fish over 55 cm. He Terry Clayton had the walleye at Travers shut down. On a body of water the size of Travers i feel more than 1 test netting and at different locations on the reservoir should have been done to get a more accurate fish count before making a major decision as to shut down the walleye fishery on Travers.
When the walleye fishery is again opened on Travers, I see it being on a tag system. And this was not a result of commercial netting.
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McLean you are right on .
When the WR take over ,I plan on starting a campaign to have
People like Clayton fired .....a dubious test netting ....the report
Is fictitious ....no creel census .....a snow job.
Late fall test in places that never hold walleyes ....
It s a load
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