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10-24-2016, 03:39 PM
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canada geese loads..
What yall using for canada geese loads. I'm shoting 3 1/2 rem hypersonic #2 looking for some advice was thinking maybe going bb but also looking for a better value brand if there is one thanks in advance!!!
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10-24-2016, 03:42 PM
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3.5" overkill IMO. guess depends if your pass shooting or over decoys. 3" BB will do it for me no problem. I personally like size#1 shot for everything from dux to geese. don't like changing shot out all the time.
IM all about value as I refuse to spend $25 a box for shooting birds with a brain the size of a pea LOL!!! Winchester xperts kill birds at $13 a box and does me just fine.
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10-24-2016, 04:05 PM
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Kills birds at what range??? Clean kills or wounding lots?? 13 bucks a box seems cheap to me
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10-24-2016, 04:10 PM
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40 yards comfortably. $13 was sale price................. ummmmm dead. shot a bird to two LOL!, works for me
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10-24-2016, 06:24 PM
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40 yards comfortably. $13 was sale price................. ummmmm dead. shot a bird to two LOL!, works for me
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Just killed a couple eh? Kinda like my self
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10-24-2016, 08:04 PM
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i shoot score or winchester 2's out of a modified choke for pretty much everything except straight duck shoots where i will use 3's. i dont know how people can justify shooting $25 or more per box when the cheap stuff kills just as dead.
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10-24-2016, 04:10 PM
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Kills birds at what range??? Clean kills or wounding lots?? 13 bucks a box seems cheap to me
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When Cabela's had their sale on ammo, I loaded up on their $6 Challenger ammo in BB and BBB as well as #2. I have killed everything I have laid my sights on. Only once had a goose wounded and drop and had to twist its neck...
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10-24-2016, 04:18 PM
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all kinds
I shoot all kinds of shells and shot sizes depending on the situation. I avoid
3-1/2 inch shells due to cost. I use them if I am pass shooting or for days the geese won't commit. I shoot 3" shells for every situation. I've killed many birds with 2-3/4 but find that 3" is best all around. I usually shoot an improved cylinder choke with larger shot, no 1's and up. I shoot modified choke with 2's and 3's for ducks.
Geese just seem to die when I shoot no 1's. I also shoot BB's for geese and have had good success when I did my part. I currently am working my way through half a case of Score Steel in BB from wholesale sports. I bought 5 boxes of 3" BB's at 14 bucks a box.
In the past I spent 17-18 bucks a box for Kent Faststeel. This year the price was around 25 bucks, maybe a bit more. I couldn't justify that and went with the score.
I've also killed lots of birds with Winchester Xperts. I cut quite a few open and the shot was always black, dusty, occasionally misshapen and often not uniform. They still killed birds.
Most of my waterfowling is over decoys and jump shooting. Shots within 30 yards.
Growing up I spent many Saturday mornings pass shooting as birds would leave the roost and fly over a ridge. I had lots of practice at 40-65 yards and did well with 12 gauge 3" shells shooting BBB or T shot.
Best advice I was ever given for shooting geese was to shoot for the white cheek patch. If you can hit a mallard consistently you can hit a gooses head consistently.
Many people who shot a lot if lead will advocate for 2's for geese and 4's for ducks. It has been my experience that this is too light unless you are good enough to consistently hit them in the head and you are shooting at less than 30 yards over decoys. My thought is that if it works for you then go for it.
There is a study out there somewhere that says you need between 4-7 pellets hitting a vital area striking at a certain force I can't remember to kill consistently.
Basically you need to hit the bird with multiple pellets with enough energy to penetrate and cause damage in vital areas to consistently kill. Energy comes from weight, increase pellet size, and speed, get closer. It's a balancing act between too few pellets, not enough hits, and too many pellets, not enough energy.
Sorry for the long answer. I'm sure someone will disagree and that's fine too. I just do what I have found to work.
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10-24-2016, 04:42 PM
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Great response Ithaca!!! These are the very same questions and thoughts I'm having myself hence why I asked the question
Had a rough day out shooting yesterday and have to blame it on something haha!! Had plenty of birds within 50 yards comiting to our setup but just couldn't seem to knock em down.. back to the drawing board...
Is patern testing important or not?
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10-24-2016, 04:56 PM
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I would say yes so you know fully what your getting at distances. I moved over to a Skeet II aftermarket tube because the pattern was exceptional compared to my stock modified. took some testing but was worth the effort. As equally important is ensuring your gun is fitted properly, that can cause issues.
For geese I find many call the shoot a little too early, best advise I got 30 plus years ago was when you think you should shoot, count to 3 then have at er. only caveat is if birds flared. then that's your set up.
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10-24-2016, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pixel Shooter
I would say yes so you know fully what your getting at distances. I moved over to a Skeet II aftermarket tube because the pattern was exceptional compared to my stock modified. took some testing but was worth the effort. As equally important is ensuring your gun is fitted properly, that can cause issues.
For geese I find many call the shoot a little too early, best advise I got 30 plus years ago was when you think you should shoot, count to 3 then have at er. only caveat is if birds flared. then that's your set up.
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Absolutly agree with Pixel Shooter here. Pattern your gun with different loads and different brands. Especially if you are shooting 50 yards. Good patterns are essential at this range. In my gun federal bb's throw the pattern hard right. The right half of the pattern at 40 yards has twice the shot in it as the left side. Kent Faststeel through a good pattern in my gun with bb's. Kent silver steel patterned the best in my gun. It's the most expensive too. Ha! Go figure. One's patterned the best. Kent's again. I haven't patterned the score loads yet. To pattern I took a piece of wire and wrapped it around a nail. Then I wrapped a sharpie around the other end of the wire a measured 15" out. I stapled a big piece of paper to a pallet stuck the nail in the centre and drew a thirty inch circle. Wrote the gun, shell type, oz size, feet per second, and choke down. Then. I murdered the target in cold blood at 40 yards from a bench rest. I shot 3-5 patterns per load. I was just using up shells left over from the last year. I learned a lot about my gun. I need to do it again with the shotgun my son will use next year.
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10-24-2016, 04:57 PM
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I use 3" Kent Fasteel in #2 or BB shot size, usually #2. I can't see any reason to use 3-1/2" loads unless you actually enjoy more recoil, or you simply want to spend more money. If you can't bring geese down with 3" loads, you need to practice your shooting, rather than throw more shot at them.
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10-24-2016, 05:31 PM
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Took one down yesterday
2 3/4 # 3's died on the water before we could pick it up. I use 2 3/4 for ducks and geese decoying (30 yards max) I use 3 inch for geese out to about 40 yards.
I dont shoot at 50 or more yards as the chances of wounding and not recovering are greater. find a lot of people have trouble judging effective killing range which is much closer with steel shot than the lead of the old days.
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10-24-2016, 09:55 PM
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I use 3" Kent Fasteel in #2 or BB shot size, usually #2. I can't see any reason to use 3-1/2" loads unless you actually enjoy more recoil, or you simply want to spend more money. If you can't bring geese down with 3" loads, you need to practice your shooting, rather than throw more shot at them.
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I'm still figuring out what I want to shoot but do like Kent #2 so far. I just don't do it enough to establish a good base like you guys. The last 7 we took were 3" #3 and #2 Winchester steel. We had been going for puddle ducks but seemed to work fine on geese.
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10-24-2016, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pixel Shooter
3.5" overkill IMO. guess depends if your pass shooting or over decoys. 3" BB will do it for me no problem. I personally like size#1 shot for everything from dux to geese. don't like changing shot out all the time.
IM all about value as I refuse to spend $25 a box for shooting birds with a brain the size of a pea LOL!!! Winchester xperts kill birds at $13 a box and does me just fine.
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Im with pixel on this 3 inch #1 would be my preferred load ..i mostly use BB but its too much for quackers
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10-26-2016, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pixel Shooter
3.5" overkill IMO. guess depends if your pass shooting or over decoys. 3" BB will do it for me no problem. I personally like size#1 shot for everything from dux to geese. don't like changing shot out all the time.
IM all about value as I refuse to spend $25 a box for shooting birds with a brain the size of a pea LOL!!! Winchester xperts kill birds at $13 a box and does me just fine.
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i like 3'' no:1 shot too,but its hard to find No:1 shot
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10-24-2016, 06:15 PM
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I to have done my share of experiments
I have settled on BBB or T shot
Use an IC choke
It works consistently for me
Dead birds
No cripples
Through out the year I buy 2 boxes every payday
Usually federal or winchester brand
So the big hit isn't as painful at hunting season
I also pay a little more because I use a 10 gauge
Just my preference I prefer a 10 over a 12 gauge
It patterns way better I've found
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