Hunting on unposted land

[Jify]

Holy crap, I'm not even sure how I got onto such an old thread. Sorry about dragging this up from the past.

[Ivan S]

With the passing of Bob Scamell threads like this are going to become much more common. No one is sticking up for the public on crown land access issues now. Grazing lessee's have control of who can trespass and how twelve months of the year now on most leases. He and friends can camp, hunt, fish,drive around, and just relax now on their private estates. They can also block access to other crown land. This was all brought up on another thread during hunting season and hunters just wanted to defend lessee's so they wouldn't offend them. This is a case where sheep are not only being led to slaughter but are paying the butchers at least forty million dollars per year for the privilege.

[catnthehat]

Don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel Ivan!
Cat

[H380]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel Ivan!
Cat

Yup , doesnt matter to me that someone brought this thread back to life , we have experts on the subject now . I feel for you jify , frustrating as he77 when you try and give folks the benefit of the doubt and they dump on you .

[BIG AL]

I have a question that's related to this thread. What if the landowner posts his land with NO HUNTING signs, can he still "Legally" give someone permission to hunt his property, or does the property need to be posted with NO HUNTING WITHOUT PERMISSION?

[35 whelen]

ITS His land he can do what he wants ,and if he posts it no Hunting YES he can still hunt it .

[last minute]

Originally Posted by H380

So what's your thoughts on huning on land that doesn"t have a sign posted ? Do you go ahead without permission or stay off until the landowner is contacted ?

Test question eh! I say go on hunt and I am sure sooner or later the landowner will find you .

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by BIG AL

I have a question that's related to this thread. What if the landowner posts his land with NO HUNTING signs, can he still "Legally" give someone permission to hunt his property, or does the property need to be posted with NO HUNTING WITHOUT PERMISSION?

Old wives tale as pertaining to ALBERTA apparently this is true out east somewhere....but not here.

LC

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Old wives tale as pertaining to ALBERTA apparently this is true out east somewhere....but not here.

LC

Thankfully Alberta didn't choose to adopt most of those silly regulations that are used elsewhere.

Originally Posted by H380
So what's your thoughts on huning on land that doesn"t have a sign posted ? Do you go ahead without permission or stay off until the landowner is contacted ?

If I don't have permission, I don't enter the land.

[Ivan S]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel Ivan!
Cat

Yeah it's just hilarious, and hunters are the ones paying the highest price. As a moderator I would expect you would be aware of how many access rights we have lost. How do you justify lessee's having their own private hunting reserve on our land? When they are supposed to be leasing the right to pasture cattle only?

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Ivan S

Yeah it's just hilarious, and hunters are the ones paying the highest price. As a moderator I would expect you would be aware of how many access rights we have lost. How do you justify lessee's having their own private hunting reserve on our land? When they are supposed to be leasing the right to pasture cattle only?

Why is it that a moderator must we be aware of how many access rights we have lost , that is not part and parcel to my duties in this forum.
What some of my duties ARE however is making sure that threads stay respectful and on track .
Cat

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by Ivan S

Yeah it's just hilarious, and hunters are the ones paying the highest price. As a moderator I would expect you would be aware of how many access rights we have lost. How do you justify lessee's having their own private hunting reserve on our land? When they are supposed to be leasing the right to pasture cattle only?

But this thread was brought back by an individual looking for solutions on his property not leases?
Start your own thread with situations?

You do what you wish but the original question was about property not leases.

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

what about hunting on posted crown lands?

Why would crown land be posted?

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Why would crown land be posted?

Many crown leases have signage pertaining to access and rules of use. For example, "Foot Access Only" or "No access while cattle present"

LC

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Why would crown land be posted?

Our range is on crown leased land as is every oil sands site up here as well as a few horse leases , junk yards, etc.....
Cat

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Why would crown land be posted?

Cause the leaseholder, and his buddies are hunting it.
If you think this isolated case, you don't hunt where I do.

Ivan knows what goes on. Suspended? Too bad. He is a good source of information.

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Our range is on crown leased land as is every oil sands site up here as well as a few horse leases , junk yards, etc.....
Cat

Well that just doesn't sound right.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Well that just doesn't sound right.

But it is true .
We don't own the land where our range is, we have a lease , same as oil companies only I can only imagine theirs us a different type- ours is a miscenlanious lease .
There are leases out of town for horses , small parcels but they are there .
Cat

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Well that just doesn't sound right.

The lease has to be renewed on a regular basis, and in many cases, the lease holder has to put up money to clean up the lease if it is abandoned for some reason.

[CanuckShooter]

I've heard of grazing leases in BC, and we aren't supposed to hunt on them if cattle are present. But lots of them aren't even fenced. It sounds like there are a lot more leases and a whole bunch more private property in Alberta compared to here. It must be difficult at times to even find a hunting spot that isn't over run with hunters?

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

I've heard of grazing leases in BC, and we aren't supposed to hunt on them if cattle are present. But lots of them aren't even fenced. It sounds like there are a lot more leases and a whole bunch more private property in Alberta compared to here. It must be difficult at times to even find a hunting spot that isn't over run with hunters?

I never have had a problem hunting grazing leases with permission down south or up here on crown land .
Cat

[H380]

Originally Posted by last minute

Test question eh! I say go on hunt and I am sure sooner or later the landowner will find you .

Not intended as a test . pretty simple in fact . If you don't have permission you don't go on . Is go on and hunt hunt your final answer ? lol

[tikkahunter73]

I'm a land owner as well, I know a lot of landowners and still ask for permission, as simple as it is, landowners respect goes way up for a hunter who wants to enter his land. Unlike the one fellow who tried chasing down a white tail across my hayfield and got chased several miles down a gravel road.

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

I'd say probably 90% of my hunting is on private land, most of it posted and most of the landowners have a reputation for not allowing hunting, but I've only once been denied.
I believe it is my responsibility to find out whether or not land is private and then to seek permission from the appropriate persons. I like this system and think that a greater amount of hunters treating the landowners with above and beyond respect would make the biggest impact in my area. On the other hand I've found landowners/managers to be quite perspective of what kind of person you are when you talk to them.

[reddeerhunter]

Just make sure you license plate is snow covered or mud covered and fill your boots, hahahaha.

I made a mistake once and thought it was crown but it was just a snow covered piece of private and got my pee pee slapped. 10 years ago and maps have been my cheaper alternative since. Really thought wmus with a 5 in front was all crown

People do make mistakes but with technology, no excuse.

[Xbolt7mm]

Not posted means come and ask for permission, if your respectful with descent appearance you may get it. Posted means don't bother me

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

It was written into the Sask laws...land unfenced and unposted was good to go, treat it like crown.

LC

Check the other trespass laws in Sask. You can be charged under them if you are on private land without pernmission.

[KinAlberta]

I started this thread a while back. (see below) Our land was mostly unposted. The Use Respect signs were long gone. However, it's a weekend lake property and I was out there doing tiling on an August Sunday a couple summers ago when someone with a rifle started shooting by the creek maybe 200-300 yards away. Friends staying at the cabin, who like to hike around the property have also reported shooting. Last year a neighbour in the subdivision backing onto our property said someone had shot a moose and left much if it on the property and their dogs kept running over to it...

So we've had to put up some No Tresspassing and No Hunting signs. I'd like to take down the No Tresspassing signs but will be leaving up the No Hunting signs.



Friendly signage?
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?p=3297533

[dshaw]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

Not posted means come and ask for permission, if your respectful with descent appearance you may get it. Posted means don't bother me

For some landowners this is the case. Even if its posted I will still go ask the landowner, some landowners post their land to make people think twice about shooting something on posted land and trespassing. But if you go ask them they will let respectable and responsible people on. Just from my experience. What I hate is the landowners that chew you out for even asking. Or for sitting on a public road (or private with permission) in my truck next to their land trying to figure out my landowner map (or watching an animal on their place) if I have permission all around their land. some of those fences are hard to follow from a map. Almost all the landowners i've dealt with have been great and will even point you in the right direction to places you can hunt around theirs. just be respectful and most landowners will be the same.

[el sparko]

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