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09-02-2017, 11:45 AM
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bag limits/ possession limits
Hope someone can explain this to me.
Ducks/geese possession limit is usually twice the daily bag limit. I get that. I also believe you must include birds in your freezer at home.
So after you have a possession limit and have given away your excess birds from subsequent hunts, what happens when the recipients of your largess has reached the possession limit? Do you quit for the season?
What is the recipient is not a hunter? Are they still bound to the possession limit?
Just asking for a friend
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09-02-2017, 12:38 PM
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Great question....
We going hunting???
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09-02-2017, 12:45 PM
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Your last question is an interesting one. Not one that I've thought of before. You would think they must be bound by the same limits as a licensed hunter. As far as I understand the possession limit does include what is in the freezer at home. Which brings another question to mind - what if you process the meat? I'm thinking like goose jerky or some kind of sausage. Surely that isn't included is it? As for the first question - two choices. The first is you are done for the season or the second is start eating!
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09-02-2017, 12:57 PM
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Goose jerky
My son in law makes it and it is very good, to me it tastes like beef jerky. I have never yet met a bird hunter who could consume a pound or two in an afternoon. Problem solved.
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09-02-2017, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PartTimeHunter
Your last question is an interesting one. Not one that I've thought of before. You would think they must be bound by the same limits as a licensed hunter. As far as I understand the possession limit does include what is in the freezer at home. Which brings another question to mind - what if you process the meat? I'm thinking like goose jerky or some kind of sausage. Surely that isn't included is it? As for the first question - two choices. The first is you are done for the season or the second is start eating!
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Once processed it is no longer part of your posession limit as it is considered just food. Again from a CO I used to hunt with. And yes posession limit means all birds in your posession regardless if at home, in the truck, at camp etc.
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09-02-2017, 01:05 PM
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Just make life easy for yourself - hunt snow geese - there is no possession limit
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09-02-2017, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Spank
Once processed it is no longer part of your posession limit as it is considered just food. Again from a CO I used to hunt with. And yes posession limit means all birds in your posession regardless if at home, in the truck, at camp etc.
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I figured once processed it wouldn't count. Thx
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09-02-2017, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PartTimeHunter
I figured once processed it wouldn't count. Thx
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The way I read it, it counts until it is consumed.
Processing, giving it away, or hiding it does not remove it from ones bag limit, or at least that's my understanding of it.
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09-02-2017, 12:42 PM
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Wow, good question.
I'd hazard a guess and say that as long as it's legal to give away wild game then you are no longer in possession.
That's what happens with goose guides and avid goose hunters that hunt for several days in a row.
There no way to consume that much goose meat.
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09-02-2017, 12:59 PM
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You can "gift" birds as they say. The people you give them too are not required to hold a hunting license but are not allowed to exceed the posession limit. If you are a family man and lets say for examples sake have a wife and three kids you may give each of them a full posession limit. So if in the freezer you had your wifes and three kids "gifted" birds but none left for yourself you can again go obtain your posession limit if you wish provided you obtain it based on the number of days it takes for your daily limits to reach your posession limit. You may also collect your daily limit and "gift" it to someone else freeing you up of any limits and able to continue hunting. You just have to remember you are not allowed to exceed your daily limit in any one day period, if you live like I do on the SK/AB border and say went out in the morning and got your 20 allowable SK snows and wanted to hunt AB in the afternoon for them you can provided you don't exceed the AB daily limit of 50. You already took 20 in SK so you can take 30 in AB to complete that days limit. Your daily limit is whichever of the two provinces limits is largest but you cannot take a limit in each on the same day, the limit for the day must be a combination of the total of the larger limit.
In theory you could shoot a limit each and every day if you "gifted" all your birds. Just be sure the "giftee" is not over the posession limit and they too may have a posesdion limit for each and every person living in that household regardless of age.
Hope this helps....btw I used to hunt regularily with a CO and learned this from him.
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09-02-2017, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spank
You can "gift" birds as they say. The people you give them too are not required to hold a hunting license but are not allowed to exceed the posession limit. If you are a family man and lets say for examples sake have a wife and three kids you may give each of them a full posession limit. So if in the freezer you had your wifes and three kids "gifted" birds but none left for yourself you can again go obtain your posession limit if you wish provided you obtain it based on the number of days it takes for your daily limits to reach your posession limit. You may also collect your daily limit and "gift" it to someone else freeing you up of any limits and able to continue hunting. You just have to remember you are not allowed to exceed your daily limit in any one day period, if you live like I do on the SK/AB border and say went out in the morning and got your 20 allowable SK snows and wanted to hunt AB in the afternoon for them you can provided you don't exceed the AB daily limit of 50. You already took 20 in SK so you can take 30 in AB to complete that days limit. Your daily limit is whichever of the two provinces limits is largest but you cannot take a limit in each on the same day, the limit for the day must be a combination of the total of the larger limit.
In theory you could shoot a limit each and every day if you "gifted" all your birds. Just be sure the "giftee" is not over the posession limit and they too may have a posesdion limit for each and every person living in that household regardless of age.
Hope this helps....btw I used to hunt regularily with a CO and learned this from him.
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Most of what you have posted makes sense, but I'm not so sure about members of your immediate family.
If I'm the only hunter in the family, and the possesion limit is 20 birds, Your saying I could legally have in my freezer 80 birds. 20 for my wife, 20 for 12 yr old son, 20 for my 4 yr old daughter and 20 for myself. I don't think that would fly with authorities. Same with Game Fish possesion limits.
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09-02-2017, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by waterninja
Most of what you have posted makes sense, but I'm not so sure about members of your immediate family.
If I'm the only hunter in the family, and the possesion limit is 20 birds, Your saying I could legally have in my freezer 80 birds. 20 for my wife, 20 for 12 yr old son, 20 for my 4 yr old daughter and 20 for myself. I don't think that would fly with authorities. Same with Game Fish possesion limits.
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Yes it is absolutely the way it is. There is no prerequisite for who can posess fish and game and only the person doing the hunting or fishing needs to be licensed to fish or hunt. You are not licensed to posess, you are licensed to fish and hunt. It's that simple. I have read the act and had many hours of conversations with CO's I hunted, fished, shot skeet with and worked with to ensure this is the law. Yes everyone in your household can be gifted up to a posession limit.
And to Keg, I am not out there breaking any laws or putting game species at risk of overharvest and my buddy does not need to lose his job for explaining the act in depth. He's actually doing his job the way it should be done when someobe has questions. Knowledge is a good thing. Ever hear a judge say "ignorance of the law is no excuse?" There is nothing more true than that statement. If you know what you are legally allowed you can't be blindsided by those who are ignorant of the law or those who would charge you knowing full well you are within your rights when you don't.
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09-02-2017, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spank
Yes it is absolutely the way it is. There is no prerequisite for who can posess fish and game and only the person doing the hunting or fishing needs to be licensed to fish or hunt. You are not licensed to posess, you are licensed to fish and hunt. It's that simple. I have read the act and had many hours of conversations with CO's I hunted, fished, shot skeet with and worked with to ensure this is the law. Yes everyone in your household can be gifted up to a posession limit.
And to Keg, I am not out there breaking any laws or putting game species at risk of overharvest and my buddy does not need to lose his job for explaining the act in depth. He's actually doing his job the way it should be done when someobe has questions. Knowledge is a good thing. Ever hear a judge say "ignorance of the law is no excuse?" There is nothing more true than that statement. If you know what you are legally allowed you can't be blindsided by those who are ignorant of the law or those who would charge you knowing full well you are within your rights when you don't.
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Pretty sure you would need more than one license holder in the household for the game in the household to claim a full possession for all occupants.
I have a wife and two kids....I cannot shoot enough for all four limits and store all 4 limits in my home claiming I gifted my wife and 2 kids a full individual limit EACH.
LC
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