AB Election

[REMINGTON JIM]

[QUOTE=Bigwoodsman;4639303]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

So, the politicians have to work, for a change.

Grizz[/QUOTE

The UCP have a majority, but did they really win the election. Is dropping 14 seats a victory or a wake up call? That's a 28.5% step backwards.

The NDP winning 14 seats a 62% improvement for the NDP. The NDP is gaining momentum.

I truly hope the UCP take this election to look in the mirror and come to a realization that they need to moderate. If they don't and these numbers continue come next election, they could disappear.

Be interesting in a year or two if DS is still their leader.

As much as we all want RN to step down, DS needs to step up.

BW

Yea for Sure just proves there is even more NDP FREELOADERS out there
! RJ

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

MAGA Danielle!!

[Big Grey Wolf]

Some interesting numbers. More Albertans voted for NDP than UCP in both Edmonton and also Calgary. (Edmonton NDP 62.7%,UCP 34.6%) Calgary NDP 49.3%, UCP 48.2%)

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Some interesting numbers. More Albertans voted for NDP than UCP in both Edmonton and also Calgary. (Edmonton NDP 62.7%,UCP 34.6%) Calgary NDP 49.3%, UCP 48.2%)

No surprise at all, Edmonton has been Red/woke for a while now, and Calgary is headed in that that direction. The rural numbers are a far different story.

[lmtada]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Some interesting numbers. More Albertans voted for NDP than UCP in both Edmonton and also Calgary. (Edmonton NDP 62.7%,UCP 34.6%) Calgary NDP 49.3%, UCP 48.2%)

Makes the rural vote more impressive, considering UCP had 53% overall vote. I was originally predicting (Dec) 60/40 UCP. Then revised to 55/45 in April. Many UCP conservatives that didn’t endorse Ms.Smith (she was UCP outsider), didn’t vote, and few endorsed NDP. They will come back, after see Ms. Smith will for Albertans > NDP will for all Albertans.

[Grizzly Adams1]

So locally now we have a UPC constituency association board who tried to back the wrong horse. The preferred candidate got the same percentage of the vote as the NDP. This could get interesting.

Grizz

[IronNoggin]

[IronNoggin]

[gunluvr]

Just for fun, thought I'd dig up some numbers on how many voted for either UPC, NDP, or other parties, and how many didn't vote in Monday's election. Some sources show slightly different numbers, but are basically the same:
Eligible votors: 2,840,927
Votes cast: 1,772,314
UPC votes: 926,918
NDP votes: 776,188
Other party votes: 60,335
Those who didn't vote, though eligible:1,068,613
Again, some numbers may not be accurate, but are close.

To those who voted "other", you had every right to do so.
However, in reality, isn't it kinda like wearing a clown suit when everyone else is wearing either pants or a dress? It's ok to make a statement, but ultimately, no one cares.
You didn’t influence the election results in any meaningful way. Take note that no "other" parties secured a seat in the legislature. The one Independent seat holder was actually a UPC candidate tossed from the party.
As for those who didn't vote, some have legitimate reasons. Others not so much, and it's that particular group who have no legitimate right to complain about the results, or the consequences. And this group had the potential to sway the end results either way...
MHO.

[2 Tollers]

Interesting numbers --- of those that did not vote I know several -- all long time conservatives that just could not support the UPC this time around.

It would be interesting to see what the % would be left / right on this group for voting norm. My bet would be that the NDP got all their voters out ---- sitting in the wings was dissatified UPC people.

[Smoky buck]

Most non voters don’t vote do to lack of accountability for politicians and poor options in candidates

Trust me they you can’t complain statement doesn’t mean a thing to those who don’t vote lol

I voted and have voted for a while now only because of trying to keep out the whack jobs that have gotten into politics. But I didn’t for years because my time was more valuable than the poor quality politicians we choose from

Want to see a huge increase in voter turnout improve accountability in politics

[sjr]

Originally Posted by REMINGTON JIM

Now that’s a Fact ! Like the city of Edmonton 20 riding all voted NDP RJ

English is no longer a official language in Edmonton

[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

Most non voters don’t vote do to lack of accountability for politicians and poor options in candidates

Trust me they you can’t complain statement doesn’t mean a thing to those who don’t vote lol

I voted and have voted for a while now only because of trying to keep out the whack jobs that have gotten into politics. But I didn’t for years because my time was more valuable than the poor quality politicians we choose from

Want to see a huge increase in voter turnout improve accountability in politics

You sound like George Carlin, lol and he pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Here's an excerpt:

"I don’t vote ’cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with."

If you ever get a chance to listen (or read) George Carlin on Voting or the voting public, it's pretty hilarious, if not absolutely true.

[Loggrlee]

you say there were no good candidates, are you going to run next time?

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by HVA7mm

"....that I had nothing to do with."

Guess George should have voted for a different candidate then....

[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by Trochu

Guess George should have voted for a different candidate then....

Out in full force I see, lol.

[Savage Bacon]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

No surprise at all, Edmonton has been Red/woke for a while now, and Calgary is headed in that that direction. The rural numbers are a far different story.

I was kind of sickened to see all the orange in Calgary. I guess they don't remember big businesses a few years ago packing up and leaving for saskatchetoon.

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[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck View Post
Most non voters don’t vote do to lack of accountability for politicians and poor options in candidates

Trust me they you can’t complain statement doesn’t mean a thing to those who don’t vote lol

I voted and have voted for a while now only because of trying to keep out the whack jobs that have gotten into politics. But I didn’t for years because my time was more valuable than the poor quality politicians we choose from

Want to see a huge increase in voter turnout improve accountability in politics
You sound like George Carlin, lol and he pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Here's an excerpt:

"I don’t vote ’cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with."

If you ever get a chance to listen (or read) George Carlin on Voting or the voting public, it's pretty hilarious, if not absolutely true.




So not voting is the answer? and to back up your claims you use a Marxist/socialist as a bright beacon of logic. How the stomach turns.

[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Originally Posted by Smoky buck View Post
Most non voters don’t vote do to lack of accountability for politicians and poor options in candidates

Trust me they you can’t complain statement doesn’t mean a thing to those who don’t vote lol

I voted and have voted for a while now only because of trying to keep out the whack jobs that have gotten into politics. But I didn’t for years because my time was more valuable than the poor quality politicians we choose from

Want to see a huge increase in voter turnout improve accountability in politics
You sound like George Carlin, lol and he pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Here's an excerpt:

"I don’t vote ’cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with."

If you ever get a chance to listen (or read) George Carlin on Voting or the voting public, it's pretty hilarious, if not absolutely true.




So not voting is the answer? and to back up your claims you use a Marxist/socialist as a bright beacon of logic. How the stomach turns.

Did I actually say that I personally didn't vote, or make any claims validating that? No (happily voted in every election municipal/provincial/federal since 1988).

I merely drew some parallels between what a previous poster said regarding people that don't vote, and what a dead comedian said during one of his shows.

Comedian: Noun

"A comedian or comic is a person who seeks to entertain an audience by making them laugh. This might be through jokes or amusing situations, or acting foolish, or employing prop comedy."

Some posts amaze me, they're just as bad or worse than the CBC. Cherry picking words/phrases, piecing it together as they see fit to accomplish what exactly, I have no idea. An ideology maybe, an agenda, just to be an antagonist? Who knows? It's pretty sad when people spend more of their time reading into things, instead of actually reading things.


Here's another definition.

Out of context: If a statement or remark is quoted out of context, the circumstances in which it was said are not correctly reported, so that it seems to mean something different from the meaning that was intended.

PS, Maybe get something to help with the turning stomach.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Originally Posted by Smoky buck View Post
Most non voters don’t vote do to lack of accountability for politicians and poor options in candidates

Trust me they you can’t complain statement doesn’t mean a thing to those who don’t vote lol

I voted and have voted for a while now only because of trying to keep out the whack jobs that have gotten into politics. But I didn’t for years because my time was more valuable than the poor quality politicians we choose from

Want to see a huge increase in voter turnout improve accountability in politics
You sound like George Carlin, lol and he pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Here's an excerpt:

"I don’t vote ’cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with."

If you ever get a chance to listen (or read) George Carlin on Voting or the voting public, it's pretty hilarious, if not absolutely true.




So not voting is the answer? and to back up your claims you use a Marxist/socialist as a bright beacon of logic. How the stomach turns.

No one claims not voting is the correct answer but instead there is a reason a portion of the public doesn’t find it important anymore.

Really when your options are getting kicked in the left nut by one BSing crook or getting kicked in the right nut by another diss honest crook it doesn’t really motivate the public. It’s a kick in the nuts no matter who you vote for or if you choose not to vote at all

If it makes you feel better I know more people like myself that have started voting because they can’t stand the trend of extremist politicians like Trudeau. The very first vote I personally cast was for the Conservatives the first time Trudeau decided to run. I knew he was trouble from the start

It’s not that choosing to vote or not is right or wrong But instead I understand why people have no faith in our system and choose not too. Unfortunately many of those who choose not to vote are hard working average Canadians that hold basic values with non interest in all theses crazy social issues pushed in politics theses days

Really I read all these posts on AO about what type of people don’t vote or all people that work in X fields or from X generation vote this way and laugh. The truth is it’s a real mix, it’s a matter of personal choice and values. Tons of government and union workers don’t vote NDP. Tons on of younger people are more right wing. Lots of old people vote left because they want social assistance style programs too. I know people living in cities here in Alberta and B.C. that would even be declared extreme right wing

But on the internet everyone must fit into a stereotype lol

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

Most non voters don’t vote do to lack of accountability for politicians and poor options in candidates

Trust me they you can’t complain statement doesn’t mean a thing to those who don’t vote lol

I voted and have voted for a while now only because of trying to keep out the whack jobs that have gotten into politics. But I didn’t for years because my time was more valuable than the poor quality politicians we choose from

Want to see a huge increase in voter turnout improve accountability in politics

The way an individual views a politician's worthiness is a personal opinion, at best, a popular opinion. And they all make mistakes. Sometimes from bad advice.
They face accountability every four years. Some say that's not often enough. But if we could vote on every policy, we wouldn't need government. We'd be real sick and tired of voting though. What I'm trying to say is you have to take some bad along with the good.
Some would also say politicians don't have to be accountable to those who didn't vote for them and that's certainly evident in the actions of Justin Trudeau, for example. I don't endorse that mindset at all.
There are wackjobs everywhere and most aren't even politicians, thankfully. Our job is to vote for a candidate who is not one, if at all possible. Not voting is simply not trying, and will deserve thanks from your local elected whackjob...
MHO.

[elkhunter11]

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Exactly the conservatives won despite Danielle and her checkered history, a lot of people don't tust her. That tells me if the conservatives ran a candidate who was a little more centrist and actually appealed to the publicwithout spewing stupid opinions when she sould have kept her mouth shut. They would have won a whole lot more seats. Thinking voter turn out would have been higher if they ran someone who you didn't have to hold your nose while voting for her.

I don't agree with the bolded part at all. If she was more centrist I would be looking at other parties that I am sure would be gaining momentum, Just like happened with the Wildrose.

As far as spewing opinions, I am ok with that. She hasn't said anything that offends me, and at least I know she has an opinion. Not the wishy-washy values crap we see so many politicians adopting for fear of offending someone with green or blue hair.
What are "stupid opinions" to you, may resonate greatly with other conservatives.
Just a thought...

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Oh if only he were still alive....
RIP Ralph

[KGB]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Oh if only he were still alive....
RIP Ralph

Х2!

[walking buffalo]

I took three likely NDP voters out of town on election day, ensuring that they could not vote.
I regaled them with stories of how my father was one of Klein's original Mayoral run organizers.
Reminiscing fondly of filling Ralph's freshly emptied tumbler half way with scotch, Dad looking at me sternly, me instinctively knowing to fill 'er up.

The loss of my one vote cancelled three socialist votes.
Put that in the stats.

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Dad, Ralph, a bottle of scotch and me. Good enough for 10,000.

[graybeard]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

You know the smaller signs with the wire metal legs are GREAT for target stands.....

I have been using them for years and they are perfect.....Easy to use, stable and pack away nicely, free and plenty of them around....

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

I took three likely NDP voters out of town on election day, ensuring that they could not vote.
I regaled them with stories of how my father was one of Klein's original Mayoral run organizers.
Reminiscing fondly of filling Ralph's freshly emptied tumbler half way with scotch, Dad looking at me sternly, me instinctively knowing to fill 'er up.

The loss of my one vote cancelled three socialist votes.
Put that in the stats.

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Dad, Ralph, a bottle of scotch and me. Good enough for 10,000.

Well, played WB... Well played.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

I took three likely NDP voters out of town on election day, ensuring that they could not vote.

Train station?

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

Train station?

Damn....

Next time, with a handicapped bus.