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Old 03-26-2018, 10:59 AM
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Anybody know what is coming down the pipe in regards to the forementioned species limits for this upcoming season? I keep hearing a 115 cm max halibut, w same 2 Hali possession limit, one halibut and one baby halibut.

How 'bout yelloweye? I'm hearing ZERO yelloweye.

On that note, I have heard two or three potentials on rockfish, one per day, three per day, and eight per day. 500 trillion of them, can't even drop a lead hook to the bottom some places without hooking one halfway down, hope we can at least have some of them.

Chinook salmon, I'm hearing rumours of closed in the north (Rupert)??? Maybe closed in the far south so the killer whales can eat them, (literally the reason, close the south so the killer whales can eat more Chinook, and I guess less pinks???)

Hearing the northern commercial salmon fleet will relocate to the central BC coast and continue to annihilate the species there, as interior guides can attest from last season.

Also hearing ZERO Chinook and ZERO sockeye fishing and harvest on the Skeena this summer. Except the Indians of course like last year.

Does anybody have any factual knowledge of what's coming down this year?
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:16 AM
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Halibut part true. Yelloweye true for outside yelloweye but areas 12-19 or so still can get one I believe. Rockfish has not been announced yet but believe it is 3 per day in outside waters (3 black rockfish give you more meat than one yelloweye and tastes better imo). Skeena I believe is true. Rupert part is hearsay but dfo is considering it. Southern van island for whales is true but not entire shutdown only specific areas so can still fish for Chinook down there just not in some areas.
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the questions and updates guys. Let's keep this one going as more actuals come in.
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Old 03-26-2018, 01:34 PM
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WOW! A smart person!

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Old 03-26-2018, 08:14 PM
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Oh man, not looking good. I wouldn't have been able to keep any halibut last year with these new regs. Salmon forecast not looking so hot either. I guess Alberta isn't the only place with fish issues.

I'm thinking this yellow eye population issue is going to lead to a lot more areas being closed to fishing eventually. Hard to avoid them fishing for lings and halis in some areas.

Thanks for update.

If you want to read more debate about reg changes lots of complaining going on over at the Sport fishing BC forum.
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The yelloweye don’t need closed areas, plenty of yelloweye, but the problem is massive amount of bycatch by the commercial longliners. The commercial guys need to clean up their act and use a more selective method. The DFO needs to recognize the actual problem and act prudently.

This constant limiting the sportfisher everywhere and every time the commercial folks overharvest the resource has to stop, native fisheries included.
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Agree the biggest threat is the commercial fishermen to bottomfish and halibut (Alaska by catch of halibut in their trawl fisheries for other species is 1.5x the number of halibut our commercial AND sport fisheries catch in BC combined...and they all die).

Salmon I'd say net fisheries in rivers is a big issue. While you saw first hand there are a ton of yelloweye where we fish Marty, according to SARA Yelloweye are an endangered species. Their numbers are easily debatable though!! But using their numbers it is true. Like I said though, their numbers are a little out to lunch I think on the conservative side!
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Anybody know what is coming down the pipe in regards to the forementioned species limits for this upcoming season? I keep hearing a 115 cm max halibut, w same 2 Hali possession limit, one halibut and one baby halibut.

How 'bout yelloweye? I'm hearing ZERO yelloweye.

On that note, I have heard two or three potentials on rockfish, one per day, three per day, and eight per day. 500 trillion of them, can't even drop a lead hook to the bottom some places without hooking one halfway down, hope we can at least have some of them.

Chinook salmon, I'm hearing rumours of closed in the north (Rupert)??? Maybe closed in the far south so the killer whales can eat them, (literally the reason, close the south so the killer whales can eat more Chinook, and I guess less pinks???)

Hearing the northern commercial salmon fleet will relocate to the central BC coast and continue to annihilate the species there, as interior guides can attest from last season.

Also hearing ZERO Chinook and ZERO sockeye fishing and harvest on the Skeena this summer. Except the Indians of course like last year.

Does anybody have any factual knowledge of what's coming down this year?
From guys on the Island and well aware of what is going on, I have been told we will know Apr 1. So I’d have to guess that would be Monday Apr 2. Regs got to be out soon.
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http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/r.../a-s4-eng.html

Chinook Salmon 4,104 45cm Barbless Hook & Line 2/4/30 Open (See Restrictions)
Chum Salmon 4,104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Coho Salmon (Hatchery & Wild Combined) 4,104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Pink Salmon 4,104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Sockeye Salmon 4 Barbless Hook & Line 0/0/- Non-retention (See Restrictions)
104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Halibut 4,104 Hook and Line, Spear 1/2/6 Open (See Restrictions)
Lingcod 4,104 Hook and Line, Spear 0/0/- Closed
Rockfish, All Species Combined 4,104 Hook and Line, Spear 0/0/- Closed
Dungeness Crab 4,104 165mm Dip Net, Hand Picking, Ring Net, Traps (Crab) 6/12/- Open (See Restrictions)
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So I don't even see Yelloweye rockfish mentioned in the regs. Looks like they increased the limit of rockfish in a lot of areas from one to 3. Just added in the one china, tiger or quilback. But it doesn't even mention like it used to only one may be yelloweye. I think they forgot to mention Yelloweye or what would you say Serengeti?

Also I notice around a lot of Area 12 it says Lincod limit 0/0/10. So how can the daily and possession limit be zero and the yearly limit 10?

I have never looked at regs this early before so maybe still being edited.


Nevermind someone posted the bulletin on another forum.

I just had DFO bulletin emailed this morning:
I guess Yelloweye is zero retention.

Category(s):
RECREATIONAL - General Information,
RECREATIONAL - Fin Fish (Other than Salmon)

Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0249-RECREATIONAL - Fin Fish (Other than Salmon) - Rockfish and Lingcod: Coast-wide Management Measures - daily limits and close times - in effect starting April 1, 2018

Effective April 1, 2018 to March 31, 2019, the following recreational daily
limits and close times apply to Rockfish and Lingcod in North and South Coast
waters as described. These management measures are required to reduce fishing
impacts on rockfish in general and identified rockfish species of concern.

North Coast:
Areas: 1 to 10, 101 to 110, 130, 142
Daily limits: Rockfish, all species combined - three (3), only one (1) of which
may be a Quillback rockfish, a Tiger rockfish, or a China rockfish; there is
zero (0) retention for Yelloweye rockfish and Bocaccio rockfish; lingcod - two
(2).
Close time: November 16 to March 31 (open April 1 to November 15)


South Coast (Outside waters):
Areas: 11, 21 to 27, 111, 123 to 127, Subareas 12-14 and 20-1 to 20-4, and Area
121 (excluding the following portions described below):

Area 121
No person shall fish for or retain Halibut, rockfish and Lingcod in Area 121
outside the 12 nautical mile limit seaward of a line that begins at 48 degrees
34.000 minutes and 125 degrees 17.386 minutes W and continues south easterly at
a bearing of 116 degrees True to a point at 48 degrees 28.327 minutes and 125
degrees 01.687 minutes W.

Area 121:
Closed to all finfish, year round in the waters of Swiftsure Bank, inside a
line from 48 degrees 34.00 minutes N and 125 degrees 06.00 minutes W, thence to
48 degrees 34.00 minutes N and 124 degrees 54.20 minutes W, thence to 48
degrees 29.62 minutes N and 124 degrees 43.40 minutes W, thence following the
International Boundary between Canada and the U.S. to 48 degrees 29.55 minutes
N and 124 degrees 56.20 minutes W, thence in a straight line to the point of
commencement.


Daily limits: Rockfish, all species combined - three (3), only one (1) of which
may be a Quillback rockfish, a Tiger rockfish, or a China rockfish; there is
zero (0) retention for both Yelloweye rockfish and Bocaccio rockfish; lingcod -
two (2).
Close time: November 16 to March 31 (open April 1 to November 15)

South Coast (Inside waters):
Areas: 13 to 19 and Subareas 12-1 to 12-13, 12-15 to 12-48, 20-5 to 20-7 and 29-
5
Daily limits: To be announced (by separate Fishery Notice).
Close time: October 1 to April 30 (open May 1 to September 30)

Area 28 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-4 and 29-6 to 29-17 are closed to rockfish and
lingcod April 1, 2018 to March 31, 2019 (all year).

Variation Orders 2018-124 and 2018-125 in effect
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:08 AM
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So it is pretty common to catch yelloweye while halibut fishing. Not sure why the survival rate is after being brought up from 300' but guessing it's not high??? Seems a waste to not keep a couple when they aren't going to survive.
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:31 AM
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So it is pretty common to catch yelloweye while halibut fishing. Not sure why the survival rate is after being brought up from 300' but guessing it's not high??? Seems a waste to not keep a couple when they aren't going to survive.
Having and using a descender system should be required now that they expect anglers to release these fish.
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http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/r.../a-s4-eng.html

Chinook Salmon 4,104 45cm Barbless Hook & Line 2/4/30 Open (See Restrictions)
Chum Salmon 4,104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Coho Salmon (Hatchery & Wild Combined) 4,104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Pink Salmon 4,104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Sockeye Salmon 4 Barbless Hook & Line 0/0/- Non-retention (See Restrictions)
104 30cm Barbless Hook & Line 4/8/- Open (See Restrictions)
Halibut 4,104 Hook and Line, Spear 1/2/6 Open (See Restrictions)
Lingcod 4,104 Hook and Line, Spear 0/0/- Closed
Rockfish, All Species Combined 4,104 Hook and Line, Spear 0/0/- Closed
Dungeness Crab 4,104 165mm Dip Net, Hand Picking, Ring Net, Traps (Crab) 6/12/- Open (See Restrictions)

Check again Ken. We can keep rockfish and ling in area 4.
0 retention for yellow eye.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:11 PM
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I am hearing that if you do not have a descender unit while rock fishing they may be giving out fishing rewards. I think there are going to be a hell of a lot of fat eagles this summer we cant keep them. I catch a lot of rock fish salmon fishing and enjoy the meat as much as anything. I have never caught a yelloweye, and this year hope to finally get some ling. I am hoping Lonewolf shows me how in July if I haven't had any luck in May or June.
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Old 04-06-2018, 06:04 AM
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Going to Rupert Tuesday to get the boat ready, can't wait for a nice feed of fresh crab and fish. It will be a tough year to find Hali's 115cm and under and I've yet to find a good chicken hole but glad we can keep a couple still. Also happy we can keep a few rockfish and ling man I like those ugly buggers. As far as snapper I only get a couple a year so not to worried about them more worried about getting them back down safely.
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Going to Rupert Tuesday to get the boat ready, can't wait for a nice feed of fresh crab and fish. It will be a tough year to find Hali's 115cm and under and I've yet to find a good chicken hole but glad we can keep a couple still. Also happy we can keep a few rockfish and ling man I like those ugly buggers. As far as snapper I only get a couple a year so not to worried about them more worried about getting them back down safely.
I can put you on Halibut if you can share some ling spots.
Are you going to go into Alaska for hali? We are, I think if we get a flat calm day.
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