7mm WSM v.s. 270 WSM

[Mike_W]

Well after much contemplation I think I have settled on a browning x-bolt for several reasons. Sub MOA out of the box, magazine, feather trigger, dura touch synthetic stock, weight and fit/feel to myself.

Now I am trying to settle on a caliber. I curretly have a 270 win and 300 win mag, I know another rifle is not nessasary but I want one.

I have been trying to deside between a 7mm WSM and a 270 WSM.

I want a gun that will be flat shooting and be able to punch out at least 150 grains. From what I've seen these two cartridges are basically the same case except a larger .284" bullet and a .277" bullet .....maybe the 7mm WSM has a every so slightly larger case.

Looking breifly over BC's the .284" bullet at 160 grains is .531 to a .480 150grain in the .277" bullet shooting at basically the same velocity. Therefore the 160 7mm should shoot flatter that a 150 270.

i think I am leaning towards the 7mm but wanted to get some members opinions on these cartriges and also the rifle of choice.

I will be handloading FYI.

Thanks,
Mike

[Scott N]

I own a 270 WSM and love it. That being said, since you handload, there are far more 7mm bullets available to handloaders than there are for the 270s. If you were limited to factory ammo I would probably say go for the 270 WSM because the 7mm WSM didn't seem to catch on as well as the 270 and 300 WSMs, and I don't think factory ammo is as readily available as it is for the 270 WSM. Being a handloader gives you a lot more bullet weight selections for the 7mm than for the 270.

Since you already own a 270 Win (a WSM doesn't offer that much over the standard 270), I'd say go with the 7mm.

[MK2750]

Originally Posted by Scott N

I own a 270 WSM and love it. That being said, since you handload, there are far more 7mm bullets available to handloaders than there are for the 270s. If you were limited to factory ammo I would probably say go for the 270 WSM because the 7mm WSM didn't seem to catch on as well as the 270 and 300 WSMs, and I don't think factory ammo is as readily available as it is for the 270 WSM. Being a handloader gives you a lot more bullet weight selections for the 7mm than for the 270.

Since you already own a 270 Win (a WSM doesn't offer that much over the standard 270), I'd say go with the 7mm.

X2 on this unless you want to sell at some point. The 270 WSM seems to be a lot more popular and has already developed a following.

I was considering the same rifle in 300 WSM until I saw it is availiable in 280 Rem and am also now undecided.

[Cal]

Why a wsm? I dont get the hype about fat little cases, the 7mm rem mag would split the difference between the two calibers that you own quite nicely. Feeds better, handles a wide range of bullets better, ammo costs less and is easyer to find

[Leverboy]

Your splitting hairs and quibbling over ballistics between two cartridges that wouldn't amount to any practical difference in the field. Two many redundant cartridges amounts to too many people masterbating over ballistics charts.

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by Leverboy

Your splitting hairs and quibbling over ballistics between two cartridges that wouldn't amount to any practical difference in the field. Two many redundant cartridges amounts to too many people masterbating over ballistics charts.

I can't argue with your logic, but a guy can never have too many rifles!

[Leverboy]

Exactly, i would go with the caliber thats offered in the rifle that you desire. if both calibers come in the same rifle you want, then you have another problem!!!!!

[surface2feather]

I own an A bolt 7WSM, and I really like it so far. It has a decent kick to it but is very manageable. I can shoot 2" groups at 100 yards without a problem but have only achieved a few 1" groups at that distance. That being said I haven't shot that much in the past so there are certainly shooter ous there who can achieve better. As far as factory ammo goes I have only found 140-160 gr bullets made by 3 or 4 manufacturers, if your reloading you can of course get a much larger variation. I haven't been able to do much long range shooting, but out to 300 yards the gun shoots very flat. I have mine sighted in at 100 yards about 1 3/4 high, which puts it on the bullseye at 50 yards and in the neighbourhood of the bullse at 250 yards.

[7RUM]

Originally Posted by Scott N

I can't argue with your logic, but a guy can never have too many rifles!

Get them both. You can never have too many rifles.

[RUM]

Originally Posted by MK2750

X2 on this unless you want to sell at some point. The 270 WSM seems to be a lot more popular and has already developed a following.

x3, and the above is a good point aswell. Likely be easier to sell a 270WSM than a 7mmWSM which makes no sense to me, but that's the way it is! I have had both and prefer the 7WSM simply for the reason of more bullet options. Other than that, as stated, there is no real difference between the 2. Both are fantastic calibers that can be used for anything you will hunt on this continent, although I think there are better options out there for the big bears!

[mulecrazy]

I too was in the same dilemma as you are. After looking at the ballistic charts and comparing increases over the originals. I found that the 7MM WSM is pretty close to the 7 rem mag in ballistics. The 270WSM however destroyed the 270 win. I found it actually had the same or close to the same energy as the 7mm WSM at the longer distances. As well if you look around for 270 bullets you can find them with ballistic coefficients of well over .500. For anyone who questions anyon who would shoot a WSM I would suggest giving it an honest trial. I love the short action, It is much quicker and easier to reload. I also believe that having the shorter action limits the overall weight of the gun as well. I have never had a gun feel as nice and comfortable to shoot as my Tikka T3 hunter. I it.

[Lorne]

I bought a Sako 75 270WSM.It did not take me long to become a fan.I took a couple of decent deer with it.It is fast becoming my favourite deer rifle.

[WSM]

Good luck finding a 7mm WSM. I am also looking for a x-bolt 7mm WSM in a stainless and syn stock. I have been looking for one for about 5 months. I also have my name on hold with everybody that has ordered one from browning. So if you are looking for a gun this season that is going to come in play. If you find one in either caliber buy it. No second chances somebody else will be coming behind you and will buy it.

[twofifty]

Originally Posted by Leverboy
Your splitting hairs and quibbling over ballistics between two cartridges that wouldn't amount to any practical difference in the field. Two many redundant cartridges amounts to too many people masterbating over ballistics charts.

Originally Posted by Scott N

I can't argue with your logic, but a guy can never have too many rifles!

Mike_W, don'tcha sometimes wonder how many #1 Irons you actually need? Why not something different, like a medium bore or a fast 24 or 25 cal?

[Rocks]

Originally Posted by Mike_W

Well after much contemplation I think I have settled on a browning x-bolt for several reasons. Sub MOA out of the box, magazine, feather trigger, dura touch synthetic stock, weight and fit/feel to myself.

Now I am trying to settle on a caliber. I curretly have a 270 win and 300 win mag, I know another rifle is not nessasary but I want one.

I have been trying to deside between a 7mm WSM and a 270 WSM.

I want a gun that will be flat shooting and be able to punch out at least 150 grains. From what I've seen these two cartridges are basically the same case except a larger .284" bullet and a .277" bullet .....maybe the 7mm WSM has a every so slightly larger case.

Looking breifly over BC's the .284" bullet at 160 grains is .531 to a .480 150grain in the .277" bullet shooting at basically the same velocity. Therefore the 160 7mm should shoot flatter that a 150 270.

i think I am leaning towards the 7mm but wanted to get some members opinions on these cartriges and also the rifle of choice.

I will be handloading FYI.

Thanks,
Mike

Go for the 270wsm. You're already loading for the 270, and the 7mm shorty won't give you anything more than what you've got. I've got a 270wsm and it kills everything I shoot at cleanly! You need something bigger and you've already got it in the 300...

[gramps73]

270 wsm all the way got and love it..
G

[Mike_W]

Well thanks for all the help and advice still confused as the census was a little on both sides.

Any thoughts on the rifle choice


Thanks
Mike

[falco]

Originally Posted by Mike_W

Well thanks for all the help and advice still confused as the census was a little on both sides.

Any thoughts on the rifle choice


Thanks
Mike

I love my Tikka T3 lite in 270 wsm. It's my first tikka so I don't know if their all like this but it has a very nice trigger.

[mulecrazy]

The Tikka T3 has a really nice smooth action. I love mine. I went with the T3 Hunter as I didn't like the feel of their sythetic stock. I would suggest heading to a good gun shop with a lot of variety and feel a few in your hands. Everyone likes the feel a little different.

[Tundra Monkey]

I'm gonna agree with Scott on this one.

You handload so 7mm all the way.

tm

[Battery]

I have a remmington 270 and my dad shoots a sako 7mm, personally i prefer the 270 but when i shoot the 7mm i love it too, sako is a really good make. i shot a remmington 7mm and will never shoot it again.

[harv3589]

Sako 85 in a 270WSM, you won't regret it....great caliber and an outstanding rifle maker.

[blackpheasant]

Just picked up a new .270 WSM Browning A bolt with VX 3 3.5-10-50 had her out on the weekend for sight in and was WOWED! I love this gun already, November can't come soon enough, recoil no problem, grouping was awesome.

[Cal]

the 270 wsm did not "destroy" the 270 win intill they started tuning the 270win the loads down. It was a bit better for sure but the only way I would say that the 270 wsm "destroyed" the 270 win was that they had to tune down the 270 win loads in order to sell the wsm. Thats just my theory on why they did it but I dont know why else it was done. the 270 win was always loaded in modern hunting actions so them doing it out of concern for the public's saftety makes no sense. They havnt tuned down the 30-06 and there are more sketchy old guns in that caliber than most other cartridges.

have a browning X bolt 270wsm mag love it just sold my 7mm to buy this gun wont being going back to the 7mm 270 wsm shoots flat equiped with Leupold 3X9X50
good groopin, within 1 Inch basically all the good stuff you hear is true

[sbtennex]

7mm. More bullet selection, wider range of weights and heavier if you need. Extra case capacity equals more oomph. Better SD and a 7WSM is on my list too, even though I have a 7mmRM and a 7mm-08. I'll probably build one though - got me eye on a 26" Broughton barrel and I'm GOING to have one that'll shoot 6" groups at 1000 yards. 7mmWSM is the best of the bunch, IMO.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Mike_W

Well thanks for all the help and advice still confused as the census was a little on both sides.

Any thoughts on the rifle choice


Thanks
Mike

Well, I can maybe help you there.
The 7WSM is not nearly so popular as the 270.
The 270 is generally considered the best of the WSM line because of its velocity gain over the standard 270WIN.
Its ammo availability is testament to its popularity as well.
I like it because there is lots of 270WSM brass to neck down to 6.5!!
Cat

[Dick284]

Come on lets debate the .275 Rigby vs. the 7x57.

Or maybe the 7mm Remington Express vs 280 Remington.

And when we are done that we will have a lively debate about the merits of one brand of pick up truck versus another.

OUCH, I just bit my tongue.

[EagleEye54]

The 270 WSM is the only WSM that makes any ballistic improvement over the tried and truth existing models. But I'd still buy a 270 WIN or 7mm Mag over any WSM. Don't like 'em and never will. Oh and yes, I have tried them.

Since you already have the bases covered with your big game rifles, why not a varmint rig instead? You can have a whole lot more fun for a longer time (all year) with a varmint rifle.

[The Bit Runner.]

I just had a 270swm built at corlanes in dawson creek,Pacnor bbl and a mpi stock,browning a bolt,25" bbl with a range finder burris scope on it,Flutes and all the other good stuff that goes with it,Sure looks nice,havent even shot it yet and ive had it 6 months,something tells me im working to DAM much.Everything in i think i got 3400 into that rifle,it better be a 1 hole gun for that price.