Two Rods Question

[Cory1]

I was thinking the other day on the regulations permitting 2 rods through the ice but only one in open water.

Anyone have any thoughts on this or information from those who make the rules?

Also just for fun, what if your on the ice and have a tip up in and are casting into open water next to you? Would that be illegal, or would the open water constitute as "a large hole".

Thanks,
Cory

[EZM]

Originally Posted by Cory1

Also just for fun, what if your on the ice and have a tip up in and are casting into open water next to you? Would that be illegal, or would the open water constitute as "a large hole".

Thanks,
Cory

Now that ..... my friend .... is a conundrum.

I wonder what a SRD guy would do ...... his head might explode.

[waterninja]

We had a thread similar to this couple years ago. On a lot of aerated lakes (Salter for eg.) you can stand by the hole with a rod in it and still spin or fly cast from the edge of the large open water. Never did get it sorted as I recall.

[JohninAB]

Originally Posted by EZM

Now that ..... my friend .... is a conundrum.

I wonder what a SRD guy would do ...... his head might explode.

My head would not explode. To me it is against the law but that is my opinion only, not a legal interpretation.

[Habfan]

I think the law states, if fishing in open water, only 1 line may be used ? So if your casting into open water why would you be allowed to set up another line regardless ? Great question tho !!!

[EZM]

Originally Posted by JohninAB

My head would not explode. To me it is against the law but that is my opinion only, not a legal interpretation.

Only because your head is a little thicker than most of your colleagues.

[Mike_W]

Originally Posted by Habfan

I think the law states, if fishing in open water, only 1 line may be used ? So if your casting into open water why would you be allowed to set up another line regardless ? Great question tho !!!

But you are only fishing open water with one line and ice fishing with the second. I say legal IMO

Now if you cast both into open water that would be illegal.

[calgarygringo]

Wow buddy way too much extra time in your engineering classes though it is a good question.

[Who Da Fisherman]

Originally Posted by EZM

Now that ..... my friend .... is a conundrum.

I wonder what a SRD guy would do ...... his head might explode.

Originally Posted by EZM

Only because your head is a little thicker than most of your colleagues.

Stop it! Can only wipe the screen clean so many times lol.
The way I see it is 2 for the ice season and 1 for open season, best of both worlds.......not sure the CO would see it that way though.
My thinking would be either you are fishin one season or the other but not both.
WDF

[thumper]

B.C. is even more fun:

If you are alone in the boat, you can have 2 rods in the water. If there's more than one person in the boat, only one rod each is permitted.

You can't use barbed hooks in a river, but you can in a lake.

You can't use water bugs that you catch in a lake as bait in that lake. But you can take them to the river and use them there.

[Cory1]

Originally Posted by thumper

B.C. is even more fun:

If you are alone in the boat, you can have 2 rods in the water. If there's more than one person in the boat, only one rod each is permitted.

Is anyone familiar with why you can't use two rods on open water in most places (AB included)?

Sitting in a boat and jigging two rods seems the same as sitting on ice doing the same thing to me. Just curious more so than anything. I'm sure there's a good reason out there, but I haven't been able to figure one out yet.

[Cory1]

Originally Posted by waterninja

We had a thread similar to this couple years ago. On a lot of aerated lakes (Salter for eg.) you can stand by the hole with a rod in it and still spin or fly cast from the edge of the large open water. Never did get it sorted as I recall.

If I can make it out to lower K again and see a CO I'll be sure to ask as there is plenty of open water from the inflow and seems to be a popular place for the CO's from what I've heard.

Question stemmed from when I was there there were people fly fishing and I was wishing I brought a full length rod, but then wasn't sure what the regulations were on the matter.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Cory1

Is anyone familiar with why you can't use two rods on open water in most places (AB included)?

Sitting in a boat and jigging two rods seems the same as sitting on ice doing the same thing to me. Just curious more so than anything. I'm sure there's a good reason out there, but I haven't been able to figure one out yet.

Double header while dead sticking and a fish swimming around with a rod attached to his lips is why imo.

the two rod thing in BC is mostly done while trolling so once you stop the second rod has minimal chance of hooking a fish. trout like to chase and BC is predominantly trout fishing. while all other jurisdictions have fish that take dead sticks far more readily.

that's all speculation but makes sense to me.

[fishpro]

The regulations read "It is unlawful to use more than one line when angling into open water." I believe that using a line for each would be illegal, because if you used one of each, you would then be using two lines total, and even though one is through the ice you are still angling into open water at the time.

[winger7mm]

Originally Posted by fishpro

The regulations read "It is unlawful to use more than one line when angling into open water." I believe that using a line for each would be illegal, because if you used one of each, you would then be using two lines total, and even though one is through the ice you are still angling into open water at the time.

Yeah but your ice fishing with 2 rods.....

You can use 2 lines while icefishing

Id say it depends on the officers mood.

[Kim473]

If there is ice all around the edges of the lake, your ice fishing with a really big hole.

[fishpro]

Originally Posted by winger7mm

Yeah but your ice fishing with 2 rods.....

You can use 2 lines while icefishing

Id say it depends on the officers mood.

Yeah but you're currently angling into open water AND you are using two rods. You might not be using both for the purpose of angling into open water, but you are still angling with two rods while angling into open water

[barbless]

Not so serious here! How much ice off a lake would constitute open water? If you can stand on the ice half way across a lake, drill a hole and drop a line but can still cast far enough to drop a jig in just over the edge of the ice, what then? Your line is still against the ice!! How about the person that can use a chain saw and cut out a 14 x 25 hole in the ice and a single 6" hole drop a jig down the 6" hole and then cast a banjo minnow in the big one? Good question though. Wonder what the CO would really say? Hope they could see the humor in it!!

[niwrek]

I put ten lines in all the time .......just incase I see a co.... this way there is no question about the ticket

[drhook]

Originally Posted by Cory1

Is anyone familiar with why you can't use two rods on open water in most places (AB included)?

Sitting in a boat and jigging two rods seems the same as sitting on ice doing the same thing to me. Just curious more so than anything. I'm sure there's a good reason out there, but I haven't been able to figure one out yet.

IMO jigging on the boat is still easier to cover a lot of water than while ice fishing. Even if you are able to keep the boat perfectly still its easy to move to another spot. If there's no fish you move 20 meters and away you go again.

Same goes for shore fishing.

I could cover more area slip bobbing with one rod than with 10 small rods thru the ice.

[Cory1]

Originally Posted by drhook

IMO jigging on the boat is still easier to cover a lot of water than while ice fishing. Even if you are able to keep the boat perfectly still its easy to move to another spot. If there's no fish you move 20 meters and away you go again.

Same goes for shore fishing.

I could cover more area slip bobbing with one rod than with 10 small rods thru the ice.

So in your opinion the regulations for open water comes from covering distance?

Not sure id agree with that, but it would sure be nice to cast a bait rig from shore, let and let it soak while casting a spoon or crank bait.

[gloszz]

We should have saltwater laws! Unlimited rods for all!

Jk of course...

[Heron]

I would be favor of the BC rule that if you are alone in a boat you can use 2 lines. Especially in C&R waters. More recreation. I thought it was the same in Saskatchewan and my buddies now call "The Poacher". When I was caught they observed me releasing several fish. The guy trolling the willow leaf and 3 treble hooks is OK though. Ya you can have 9 barbed hooks on a single line but my 2 barbless hooks are bad.

[happy honker]

3 rods then.
2 in holes and 1 in open water!

[huntsfurfish]

One rod, would it be to help conserve fish stocks? You are out there to enjoy your self and not to load up on fish.

You can also only land one fish at a time.

Ice fishing was more to do with being in one small tiny hole on the lake and to allow a little more coverage when out fishing. Only in fairly recent times have power augers been aboot and much more common. And fairly recently they took away one of the ice fishing rods, from three to two(coincidence - I think not).

[Cory1]

Originally Posted by Heron

I would be favor of the BC rule that if you are alone in a boat you can use 2 lines. Especially in C&R waters. More recreation. I thought it was the same in Saskatchewan and my buddies now call "The Poacher". When I was caught they observed me releasing several fish. The guy trolling the willow leaf and 3 treble hooks is OK though. Ya you can have 9 barbed hooks on a single line but my 2 barbless hooks are bad.

What if you could have 3 hooks total, split between 2 rods?

[Cory1]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

One rod, would it be to help conserve fish stocks? You are out there to enjoy your self and not to load up on fish.

You can also only land one fish at a time.

Ice fishing was more to do with being in one small tiny hole on the lake and to allow a little more coverage when out fishing. Only in fairly recent times have power augers been aboot and much more common. And fairly recently they took away one of the ice fishing rods, from three to two(coincidence - I think not).

You can only land one fish at time ice or open water.

Another dumb question but would there be any harm casting a rod with a lure, but no hooks While fishing with a bait rig?

Regs read "unlawful to use more than one LINE in open water"

If I'm out alone in the summer (usually am) I get bored leaving a bait to soak when my spoons and cranks don't cut it.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by Cory1

You can only land one fish at time ice or open water.

Another dumb question but would there be any harm casting a rod with a lure, but no hooks While fishing with a bait rig?

Regs read "unlawful to use more than one LINE in open water"

If I'm out alone in the summer (usually am) I get bored leaving a bait to soak when my spoons and cranks don't cut it.

Read a book about fishing. Watch for minnows jumping, all kinds of things to do.

Casting a rod with a lure. That will likely attract unwanted attention and get you in trouble. You are still using a lure to attract fish, hook or no hook. Mind you that might solve your boredom.

If you are getting that bored might be time to go home.

[H380]

Originally Posted by EZM

Now that ..... my friend .... is a conundrum.

I wonder what a SRD guy would do ...... his head might explode.

Don't know about the exploding part , but bet you'd get 2 different answers from 2 different officers .

[DiabeticKripple]

id say you are angling with one rod into open water... legal

you are using a second rod to ice fish... legal

so its legal