Getting rigged up for sturgeon

[crf250xtom]

Originally Posted by Geezle

Regardless of legalities, how about thinking about the wellbeing of an at risk species instead of what's easier for you? Y'know...respect the resource?

I am respecting the resource playing them out is actually better then horsing them in and lifting them up to take selfish pictures running the risk of them flexing and you dropping them and injuring them also when they have lots of energy they can hurt themselves on the land so maybe before you preach you should practice and "respect the resource".

[winger7mm]

Originally Posted by ab_hunter

8-10" of leader material? Do you guys still pick up walleye and goldeye with this method? Seems like the bait would be on or very near the bottom with this set up. With a picker rig the bait is elevated somewhat. Just looking for an alternative to a picker rig because I hate using them.

I use about 3' of leader. I dont catch walleye but I do catch a pile of suckers and goldeyes. If your fishing for sturgeon your fishing for sturgeon, pert near the only off catch youll have is suckers

[Secret coulee]

Originally Posted by buckmasterjr

I run this same setup using 5Olb braid main line,80lb Dacron leader instead of floural the Dacron is very soft material and sturgeon have very sensitive mouthes and will spit to heavy of floural leader material,very important to have heavy rated test for your leader material because they will always run you to the bottom of the river and try to shacke you on rocks and any debry at the bottom.4/0 I believe is the perfect all around hook you will Preatty well catch everything and I've yet to have a 50-65" sturgeon bend one on the south sask o the bow truly an Awsome hook,gamagatsu octapus hook,for guys running anything less then this I believe your not riged for sturgeon well enough and you will continue to have fish stories.

[Geezle]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

I am respecting the resource playing them out is actually better then horsing them in and lifting them up to take selfish pictures running the risk of them flexing and you dropping them and injuring them also when they have lots of energy they can hurt themselves on the land so maybe before you preach you should practice and "respect the resource".

You assume much

So are you implying that you tire them out, then unhook them while still in the water to release, making sure you don't take any "selfish pictures"? Or do you tire them out so they are easier for you to handle so you can take your "selfish pictures"?

Look at the gear that people in the tagging program like Wayne use - it's heavy stuff. The reason? To get the fish in, measured, tagged, and released as quickly as possible without any undue stress to the fish. Heck...having to use appropriately heavy gear is actually part of the fish research license.

You may also want to do a little reading on lactic acid buildup in the muscles of fish during prolonged fights...

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

I am respecting the resource playing them out is actually better then horsing them in and lifting them up to take selfish pictures running the risk of them flexing and you dropping them and injuring them also when they have lots of energy they can hurt themselves on the land so maybe before you preach you should practice and "respect the resource".

You are the ONLY person I have ever seen with ideas like this, and they have been proven so very wrong that I will no longer comment except maybe you should goive your head a shake and wake up.
Maybe you should just give up catyc and release fishing so you can make positively sure you are killing ever one you catch.
Cat

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

I am respecting the resource playing them out is actually better then horsing them in and lifting them up to take selfish pictures running the risk of them flexing and you dropping them and injuring them also when they have lots of energy they can hurt themselves on the land so maybe before you preach you should practice and "respect the resource".

No it is not better! In a prolonged fight, lactic acid builds up and will likely kill the fish.

Dont pick them up and you wont drop them. Unhook them in the water.

Use the proper tackle for the target species! Something for walleye or pike or goldeye is not suitable for sturgeon if thats what you are targeting!

[ineptflux]

Geezle couldn't be any more bang on with his post.

[crf250xtom]

Well I believe that using lighter gear is better more fun and longer fights. That's what I think everyone should use.

With regards to the tagging license requiring you to use heavier gear does it also require you to take pictures posing with the fish keeping out of the water even longer and running the risk of it falling?

[EZM]

Originally Posted by ab_hunter

8-10" of leader material? Do you guys still pick up walleye and goldeye with this method? Seems like the bait would be on or very near the bottom with this set up. With a picker rig the bait is elevated somewhat. Just looking for an alternative to a picker rig because I hate using them.

Yes - you are correct ... I add a couple "corkies" or a spin n' glow above the hook sometimes to keep it just off the bottom in the current.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

Well I believe that using lighter gear is better more fun and longer fights. That's what I think everyone should use.

Oh My God ........... you can't be serious ???

Sure, it's all about having FUN ........ who cares about the protected species ...... as long as you are having fun.

Might also be pretty fun blasting multiple .22 bullets into a running buffalo while chasing him down, shooting out your window of your SUV, for hours and hours ....... that might be FUN too .......

I think we should ALL do it ........

These are not the thoughts of a responsible, respectful outdoorsman you claim to be.

[Secret coulee]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

Well I believe that using lighter gear is better more fun and longer fights. That's what I think everyone should use.

With regards to the tagging license requiring you to use heavier gear does it also require you to take pictures posing with the fish keeping out of the water even longer and running the risk of it falling?

Your a bloody idiot with all due respect a bloody troll a yo yo and I've read enough of your bloody crap to no that you should not represent any part of our fishing forum and you have no business posting on this forum from here on in do you not get the feed back from these professional anglers get ahold of yourself man before I half to give my 2cents like a lot of people holding back here your in your own little big man world and should keep your mouth shut for the fishing community's sake.
PS don't respond back because this is not a debate

[NativeHunter]

use a hole chicken cuzzin

[crf250xtom]

Originally Posted by Secret coulee

Your a bloody idiot with all due respect a bloody troll a yo yo and I've read enough of your bloody crap to no that you should not represent any part of our fishing forum and you have no business posting on this forum from here on in do you not get the feed back from these professional anglers get ahold of yourself man before I half to give my 2cents like a lot of people holding back here your in your own little big man world and should keep your mouth shut for the fishing community's sake.
PS don't respond back because this is not a debate

How can you call someone an idiot cause their opinion differs from your's?

Seems pretty rude and ignorant.

[Secret coulee]

Education is a very important tool for our resource at this stage.and if you can't educate yourself to be responsible you should not be out there.
Truely sorry crf250xtom I come off a little to harsh last night when I lashed out on this level,couple to many Whiskys

[Secret coulee]

Wow very sorry,very imbaresed this morning sorry

[YeeHaw]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

Well I believe that using lighter gear is better more fun and longer fights. That's what I think everyone should use.

With regards to the tagging license requiring you to use heavier gear does it also require you to take pictures posing with the fish keeping out of the water even longer and running the risk of it falling?

Wow!!!!!

[1bluZebec]

I figure if your keeping a fish to eat and you know your killing it anyway do as you please and take as long as you want bringing it in and use an ultra light for all I care but if you are targeting a specific species like a bull trout or a sturgeon you should be giving as much respect and care in bringing them and photographing and unhooking them as possible to assure a healthy release to minimize harm and stress. Anyone that is a REAL fisherman knows the regulations and proper fishing etiquette of the places he fishes in. This goes for picking up any garbage you brought to the river or body of water you fish too. I have filled and took home numerous bags of garbage from the river already this spring. It's sad how many people disrespect our fisheries and try to call the selfs fisherman!

[ROA]

So how heavy of a weight are you guys using

[Geezle]

Originally Posted by ROA

So how heavy of a weight are you guys using

Depends on how the strength of the current. Typically I use 2-4oz but have gone as high as 8 in high current areas.

[Z7shooter]

When your fishing like this in a river, can you set your rod in the rod-holder and tighten up your line? Or do you have to keep some slack in it to keep it from floating down stream. Or just find a happy medium?

[buckbrushoutdoors]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

Well I believe that using lighter gear is better more fun and longer fights. That's what I think everyone should use.

With regards to the tagging license requiring you to use heavier gear does it also require you to take pictures posing with the fish keeping out of the water even longer and running the risk of it falling?

This statement here would be classified as harassing wildlife. A species at risk should be held in different light when compared to other fish or wild life. It's in our hands as outdoors people to respect and value our wildlife and to apply conservation. It's in our best interest to look after these fish with as much respect as possible.

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by crf250xtom

Well I believe that using lighter gear is better more fun and longer fights. That's what I think everyone should use.

With regards to the tagging license requiring you to use heavier gear does it also require you to take pictures posing with the fish keeping out of the water even longer and running the risk of it falling?

Well it is good that you are actually thinking of the fish. I know you do not intend to hurt the fish, but in all actuality you are. Lactic acid builds up with a long fight. The fish also needs energy to recover after it is released.
You are correct about how a falling fish or thrashing around on the rocks will/could be fatal. That is why you should keep her in the water as much as you can....not attached to a fishing line.