Tohatsu Outboard

[KUDUHNTR]

Hey anybody out there run a Toahtsu 4 stroke tiller motor in the 40-50hp range? Just want to know what you think of them, and how they work for you, reliability, etc.

Thanks

[TROLLER]

Tohatsu also makes the Merc. Should have no problems.

[KUDUHNTR]

I am hoping so, Honda, e-tec is too much $$ for me to afford at this time of fiscal restraint! I am thinking of the 40hp 4 stroke for a 16' tiller aluminum boat
which weighs 400lbs dry, without motor, etc. Dont want to be under gunned with 3 adults and gear, etc. I also understand that the 40/50 hp 4 stroke tohatsu weigh exactly the same, must be a difference of software where they make the extra hp, as they both have the same amount of cc's (866)

[TROLLER]

If I were you I would seriously look at more HP

Even a 60 would make a huge difference, especially when you are loaded and you have to get off the water when a storm shows up.

Both Honda and Yamaha make great motors that are more for sure but there is a reason they cost more.

Good luck with your hunt just remember more HP is always better.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by TROLLER

If I were you I would seriously look at more HP

Even a 60 would make a huge difference, especially when you are loaded and you have to get off the water when a storm shows up.

Both Honda and Yamaha make great motors that are more for sure but there is a reason they cost more.

Good luck with your hunt just remember more HP is always better.

16 foot tinners are typically rated for no more than 25hp.

At 400lbs (I'm assuming it's a WD type) are rated for a maximum of 25 hp on the standard 15" transom.

If this is the case .....

60 hp on a 400lb boat, at more than double the rated maximum and double the weight on the transom isn't really smart.

The transom will twist and the stern end will sink too far down in the water. take a big wave and you are going down like a brick ...... hopefully you are not too far from shore and wearing your life jacket.

If you are talking a SSV, (flat floor, heavier and higher sides) with a 20" transom, I think you are 40hp max .... so the 60 is far less of a risk on this boat.

Just be sure you are not over doing it. It could a be fatal mistake.

[javlin101]

Originally Posted by KUDUHNTR

I am hoping so, Honda, e-tec is too much $$ for me to afford at this time of fiscal restraint! I am thinking of the 40hp 4 stroke for a 16' tiller aluminum boat
which weighs 400lbs dry, without motor, etc. Dont want to be under gunned with 3 adults and gear, etc. I also understand that the 40/50 hp 4 stroke tohatsu weigh exactly the same, must be a difference of software where they make the extra hp, as they both have the same amount of cc's (866)

is tohatsu not the same guys who made Nissan outboards? the 40 is most likely a de-tuned 50hp.

I re-tuned my Nissan 120 to 140 2 stroke with a couple adjustments which took no more than 15 minutes. They are both the same motor.

[EZM]

Tohatsu makes motor major components for a large number of companies ...... but they generally only do up to 50hp on the small engine side for Mercury both in 2 and 4 stroke.

They build ALL of Nissan's 4 stroke outboards up to the big sizes like 150's.

The Tohatsu 2 stroke is also the same engine found in up to 15 hp Evinrudes.

They are great motors, for that price point, from everything I've read on other forums.

[KUDUHNTR]

Hey Troller, EZM, Javlin101

Thanks for the input and thoughts, its a mirror craft 3673 laker series, 16'2"
400 lbs empty, 20 " transom ( with 3 reinforced stiffeners ) tiller style.
74" beam round style chine bottom, 12 degree transom angle. 33" bow depth
.080 bottom. Rated for 1250 lbs, and 5 person capacity. The boat also has a flat floor, and level floatation foam. Maximum rated HP is 40, however I was thinking of the 50hp 4-stroke Tohatsu, as it the same weight as the 40hp. I am sure it would not make much of a difference between the 40&50 hp? The E-tec, Merc, Honda, etc are all heavier in the 40-50 hp class. I was considering a 2 stroke, but thought the 4 stroke would be the way to go, also there are no valve sets required on the tohatsu 4 stroke I was told, I plan to do the maintenance myself anyways to save $$ down the road. With our depressed dollar, makes the 2015 engines really more $$ now. Thane over at free spirit marine in Edmonton has some Tohatsu's left from last year at a real good price. My old 30 hp johnson is a strong runner on my old 16" starcraft tiller, but likes her fuel! Hoping the 4 -strokes will be cheaper on fuel and avoid the hassle of mixing oil & and the stink, only an issue when the blows the wrong way though!

[javlin101]

Mine is a 2 stroke oil injection so no mixing and not a lot of smoke or smell just like my skandic 550f 2 stroke injected. They smoke when first fired up but after that not bad. The 2 strokes are a bit nosier. The 2 strokes produce a little more hp and are lighter than the 4 stroke.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by KUDUHNTR

Hey Troller, EZM, Javlin101

Thanks for the input and thoughts, its a mirror craft 3673 laker series, 16'2"
400 lbs empty, 20 " transom ( with 3 reinforced stiffeners ) tiller style.
74" beam round style chine bottom, 12 degree transom angle. 33" bow depth
.080 bottom. Rated for 1250 lbs, and 5 person capacity. The boat also has a flat floor, and level floatation foam. Maximum rated HP is 40, however I was thinking of the 50hp 4-stroke Tohatsu, as it the same weight as the 40hp. I am sure it would not make much of a difference between the 40&50 hp? The E-tec, Merc, Honda, etc are all heavier in the 40-50 hp class. I was considering a 2 stroke, but thought the 4 stroke would be the way to go, also there are no valve sets required on the tohatsu 4 stroke I was told, I plan to do the maintenance myself anyways to save $$ down the road. With our depressed dollar, makes the 2015 engines really more $$ now. Thane over at free spirit marine in Edmonton has some Tohatsu's left from last year at a real good price. My old 30 hp johnson is a strong runner on my old 16" starcraft tiller, but likes her fuel! Hoping the 4 -strokes will be cheaper on fuel and avoid the hassle of mixing oil & and the stink, only an issue when the blows the wrong way though!

If she's rated for a 40 hp then you should be relatively safe with a 50 of the same weight if you choose to go that way. The 20" transom is an excellent feature .... nice and deep, and stiff enough for a bigger motor.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by TROLLER

If I were you I would seriously look at more HP

Even a 60 would make a huge difference, especially when you are loaded and you have to get off the water when a storm shows up.

Both Honda and Yamaha make great motors that are more for sure but there is a reason they cost more.

Good luck with your hunt just remember more HP is always better.

Wow a 60hp on a 16 foot could be a bit much, a 30hp would be plenty.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by KUDUHNTR

Hey Troller, EZM, Javlin101

Thanks for the input and thoughts, its a mirror craft 3673 laker series, 16'2"
400 lbs empty, 20 " transom ( with 3 reinforced stiffeners ) tiller style.
74" beam round style chine bottom, 12 degree transom angle. 33" bow depth
.080 bottom. Rated for 1250 lbs, and 5 person capacity. The boat also has a flat floor, and level floatation foam. Maximum rated HP is 40, however I was thinking of the 50hp 4-stroke Tohatsu, as it the same weight as the 40hp. I am sure it would not make much of a difference between the 40&50 hp? The E-tec, Merc, Honda, etc are all heavier in the 40-50 hp class. I was considering a 2 stroke, but thought the 4 stroke would be the way to go, also there are no valve sets required on the tohatsu 4 stroke I was told, I plan to do the maintenance myself anyways to save $$ down the road. With our depressed dollar, makes the 2015 engines really more $$ now. Thane over at free spirit marine in Edmonton has some Tohatsu's left from last year at a real good price. My old 30 hp johnson is a strong runner on my old 16" starcraft tiller, but likes her fuel! Hoping the 4 -strokes will be cheaper on fuel and avoid the hassle of mixing oil & and the stink, only an issue when the blows the wrong way though!

There ya go, fixed, now go get it!

[KUDUHNTR]

I think i will stick with the 50 hp, 60 would be a bit much???
60 might be fun though!

[PerchBuster]

I've heard they are good motors. Popular overseas in places where there is a need for inexpensive but highly reliable outboards. My buddy has a 90 hp and it seems pretty good. Pretty good on fuel too. correct in the Nissan afiliation.

[Bush]

I've got a 16.5 with a two stroke 90. That is fun!! I'm sure you would be fine with a 60 but there really is no advantage to be over powered because the design of the boat can only handle a certain speed and to get the rpm's at the proper number at w.o.t you end up with a speed prop and a dangerous boat. Or the prop that matches the boats ability ends up over revving the motor.

My honest opinion is if it's rated for 50 max then 50 it should be. I only ended up over powered because it was what I had when the 50 blew up(oil pump problem)

[huntsfurfish]

Go max horse power. 40

What will people do if they start enforcing it.

[javlin101]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Go max horse power. 40

What will people do if they start enforcing it.

Good question, I bought mine second hand and the previous owner put a 120HP on it. The boat is rated for 100HP max. I re tuned it to a 140HP and I can tell you when I am along in the boat it can interesting at wot.

[wellpastcold]

Originally Posted by KUDUHNTR

Hey Troller, EZM, Javlin101

Thanks for the input and thoughts, its a mirror craft 3673 laker series, 16'2"
400 lbs empty, 20 " transom ( with 3 reinforced stiffeners ) tiller style.
74" beam round style chine bottom, 12 degree transom angle. 33" bow depth
.080 bottom. Rated for 1250 lbs, and 5 person capacity. The boat also has a flat floor, and level floatation foam. Maximum rated HP is 40, however I was thinking of the 50hp 4-stroke Tohatsu, as it the same weight as the 40hp. I am sure it would not make much of a difference between the 40&50 hp? The E-tec, Merc, Honda, etc are all heavier in the 40-50 hp class. I was considering a 2 stroke, but thought the 4 stroke would be the way to go, also there are no valve sets required on the tohatsu 4 stroke I was told, I plan to do the maintenance myself anyways to save $$ down the road. With our depressed dollar, makes the 2015 engines really more $$ now. Thane over at free spirit marine in Edmonton has some Tohatsu's left from last year at a real good price. My old 30 hp johnson is a strong runner on my old 16" starcraft tiller, but likes her fuel! Hoping the 4 -strokes will be cheaper on fuel and avoid the hassle of mixing oil & and the stink, only an issue when the blows the wrong way though!

I would go for it! Thane is an awesome guy who will definitely not see you get into an unsafe situation. He has always been great to deal with.

[KUDUHNTR]

Thanks for all the great info and replies concerning the tohatsu motor, I am sure it will be a great motor!

[KUDUHNTR]

Was at the boat show yesterday, looked at a tohatsu 50 hp 4 stroke, the thing is built like a tank, was very impressed with the quality of construction, the intake, tiller handle,lower powerhead cover is made of aluminum. Now I know what mine will look like! (mines still in the box at Freespirit) Anybody looking for mustang inflatable life jackets, Fish'n hole at the boat show is selling them really cheap!

[KUDUHNTR]

Well I have had the boat out on the water several times this summer, mirrocraft 3673 laker and the 50 HP Tohatsu 4 stroke tiller, it scoots along quite good, and he fuel burn is quite reasonable. The wind came up on Winefred lake as it usually does, Glad I went for the long shaft transom model, as the waves do not flood over the transom when beaching the boat anymore! Good stable boat on big water!
Anyone thinking of this boat motor combination will not be disappointed!
Daryl @ Europa canopy in edmonton has the best prices around for this boat, and Thane @ free spirit marine in edmonton has awesome prices on the Tohatsu outboards.

[TROLLER]

Unreal I just picked up a used 2012 Crestliner 14 Kodiak tiller with a 2015 Tohatsu 40

Unreal power, just had a bit of a time figuring out the proper trim to bring it up to plane and then look out real surprised at the power.

My first ever tiller boat so I am still on a bit of a learning curve.

[fish99]

Originally Posted by TROLLER

Unreal I just picked up a used 2012 Crestliner 14 Kodiak tiller with a 2015 Tohatsu 40

Unreal power, just had a bit of a time figuring out the proper trim to bring it up to plane and then look out real surprised at the power.

My first ever tiller boat so I am still on a bit of a learning curve.

now you are ready for ghost lake.

[TROLLER]

LOL I along with many others have spent many many hours on that lake.

Previous two boats were also Crestliners but 16 and 17 footer.

As I get older I have decided I needed something smaller and maybe easier to handle.

It still has a nice deep V with a decent floor plan so it should handle my twice weekly trips to Minnewanka and maybe allow me to launch in a few smaller lakes as well.