Outfitter Charged - Page 2

elkhunter11 · #31 01-12-2019, 05:43 PM

The facts will come out when the trial is over, and the verdict is reached.

perchie15 · #32 01-12-2019, 05:45 PM

Very interesting read in hunting addicts for sure. Hope he gets what’s coming to him

Torkdiesel · #33 01-12-2019, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrapper

The problem is, only he knows for sure. Usually you don't become a poacher, etc overnight.

Without a doubt !

But there’s a big difference between shooting a ram in Jasper, and having a permit expire for ducks you were donating and had frozen for a kennel club !

I’m sure you get what I’m saying here

yukon254 · #34 01-12-2019, 05:58 PM

I've talked to Phil a time or two, seemed like an OK guy, but our interactions were brief. No idea if he's guilty or not, but if he is found guilty on that many charges there needs to be serious consequences. BC Outfitter / hunter Abe Dugan was charged a few years back after he killed a ram here in Yukon. They didnt catch him until 12 years later, and I heard the judge threw out that charge. They did get him on wasting meat, and he was charged with other violations in BC. I think he was allowed to keep his BC concession, but you gotta wonder how many lines he crossed in those 12-years. When they get a guy on that many charges theres a definite pattern and they should lose their hunting license for life....outfitting license too.

pikergolf · #35 01-12-2019, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

Without a doubt !

But there’s a big difference between shooting a ram in Jasper, and having a permit expire for ducks you were donating and had frozen for a kennel club !

I’m sure you get what I’m saying here

Kennel club? Dog food?

2 Tollers · #36 01-12-2019, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pikergolf

Kennel club? Dog food?

Dog training --- retriever club, trials. They are allowed xx birds per year for trials and tests.

Trappingman · #37 01-12-2019, 06:05 PM

Sure seems with most outfitters it’s just a matter of time

GMX · #38 01-12-2019, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Weedy1

You can't take pictures inside a Courthouse in Alberta let alone post them on facebook.

Public information you can order the transcripts of the charges with the file number attached to the charges. All names and circumstances will be on them.

243plus · #39 01-12-2019, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Weedy1

You can't take pictures inside a Courthouse in Alberta let alone post them on facebook.

It seems you can't take pictures in a court room, or pictures of people inside a court house. I think what he did was perfectly fine, legal and kosher.

https://albertacourts.ca/qb/resources/media

Let me know if you interpret it differently.

Weedy1 · #40 01-12-2019, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GMX

Public information you can order the transcripts of the charges with the file number attached to the charges. All names and circumstances will be on them.

Yep, still can't take pictures in a Courthouse.

marky_mark · #41 01-12-2019, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

I don’t know what he did ? Can’t read the charges posted on Facebook

Can’t see anybody hunting out of season for birds ? Or shooting from a vehicle?

This one doesn’t make much sense

I agree something seems off. I’m sure there’s more info

pikergolf · #42 01-12-2019, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 Tollers

Dog training --- retriever club, trials. They are allowed xx birds per year for trials and tests.

Ah.

R3illy · #43 01-12-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 243plus

It seems you can't take pictures in a court room, or pictures of people inside a court house. I think what he did was perfectly fine, legal and kosher.

https://albertacourts.ca/qb/resources/media

Let me know if you interpret it differently.

It looked like they were photos of the court docket which is publicly available at the court house. No one took photos inside a court house or of someone inside the room. The dockets are a list of names and charges for all the court rooms for whoever is in session for that day.

trophybook · #44 01-12-2019, 06:15 PM

The roster hanging up in the foyer of the courthouse has names and corisponding charges related to accused. No issues with taking a picture of it. It's public information and not in the court room itself.

Weedy1 · #45 01-12-2019, 06:21 PM

See here:

https://albertacourts.ca/ca/about/visiting/etiquette

Members of the public are prohibited from using cameras, tape recorders, video equipment and other electronic devices in Court facilities. Photographs and video recordings are not permitted. Cell phones should be turned off or kept on silent and kept out of sight when court is in session.

silver lab · #46 01-12-2019, 06:21 PM

Haha! Looks like nube is going for president of APOS. Lol Don’t worry nube nothing will happen to your tags APOS won’t do anything to you other then give you a promotion.

R3illy · #47 01-12-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Weedy1

See here:

https://albertacourts.ca/ca/about/visiting/etiquette

ras, tape recorders, video equipment and other electronic devices in Court facilities. Photographs and video recordings are not permitted. Cell phones should be turned off or kept on silent and kept out of sight when court is in session.

I'm guessing you've never spent any time at a court house before? Pretty sure the one in Edmonton has big screens displaying the names and court rooms for everyone seeing a judge that day.

Anyone can walk in and see the names. You can visit and sit in on any court case you want. There is no expectation of privacy at a court house.

Weedy1 · #48 01-12-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by R3illy

I'm guessing you've never spent any time at a court house before? Pretty sure the one in Edmonton has big screens displaying the names and court rooms for everyone seeing a judge that day.

Anyone can walk in and see the names. You can visit and sit in on any court case you want. There is no expectation of privacy at a court house.

I'm guessing you really didn't read what I just posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3illy

I'm guessing you've never spent any time at a court house before? Pretty sure the one in Edmonton has big screens displaying the names and court rooms for everyone seeing a judge that day.

Anyone can walk in and see the names. You can visit and sit in on any court case you want. There is no expectation of privacy at a court house.

No not much, only 10000+ hours in the last 30 years in Ponoka, Edmonton, Wetaskiwin, Leduc, Rimby, St. Plain, Vermillion, Vegreville....... I could walk you through every floor of the Edmonton Courthouse blindfolded...

bitterrootfly · #49 01-12-2019, 06:41 PM

Innocent until proven guilty, let’s let the court go through its process before we pass our judgement.

R3illy · #50 01-12-2019, 06:41 PM

LOL. Well Im understanding a bit better now. If it's that serious to take a photo at the court house then that explains why the post was removed from the Facebook group.

243plus · #51 01-12-2019, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Weedy1

See here:

https://albertacourts.ca/ca/about/visiting/etiquette

Members of the public are prohibited from using cameras, tape recorders, video equipment and other electronic devices in Court facilities. Photographs and video recordings are not permitted. Cell phones should be turned off or kept on silent and kept out of sight when court is in session.

OK, it seems that there are slightly different rules for the Alberta Court of Appeals vs the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench. Seeing they are in the same court house, which rules apply?

Rackmastr · #52 01-12-2019, 07:23 PM

Should change name of this thread to "Taking pics in a courthouse". People would at least know what to expect...

perchie15 · #53 01-12-2019, 07:31 PM

Lol this is great

ganderblaster · #54 01-12-2019, 08:32 PM

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Joe Black · #55 01-12-2019, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RZR

This is the guy that takes pics of all these big whitetails over bait and then claims all the big whitetails that he shoots are all legit. I wonder how many of his Rams were shot legally or were they shot in cadomin or Jasper park

Yes I guess if you cheat, a 200” deer is possible. What a DB.

Joe Black · #56 01-12-2019, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

That’s a bit of a stretch !

Most of the charges here seem a little different then what you’re suggesting

So when will you get tired of defending your fallen bretheren?

You are not doing yourself any favours( or building credibility) standing up for these guys.

Hey, I may be wrong, and you may be right. He may be innocent of 70 charges,,,,,,,,,NOT.

And as others have eluded that he has probably poached other animals has a stronger argument now(if true) than yours stating it has no real relavence. Once a poacher, always a poacher.