Barbed hooks

[GregT]

i was wondering if you can possess barbed hooks on the ice. I always push down the barbs on hooks i use (just want to derail that thought). but if a guy grabs a few new lures on the way out to the lake and has them in a pocket or even in your tackle box, would that be considered fishing with barbed hooks?

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by GregT

i was wondering if you can possess barbed hooks on the ice. I always push down the barbs on hooks i use (just want to derail that thought). but if a guy grabs a few new lures on the way out to the lake and has them in a pocket or even in your tackle box, would that be considered fishing with barbed hooks?

Having them tied to a line down hole or on a rod in a boat is fishing with barbed hooks. In possession is nothing.

[0liver]

if having barbed hooks in possession is a crime im sure 99.9% of fisherman are breaking the law as we speak. canadian tire would have to be closed down.

Pinch it before you cast, all is well.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Barbed hook law has been recinded....read page 14 in your AO mag this month. People are encouraged to go barbless still, but it is no longer a requirement.

LC

[GregT]

ok i dont want to start this debate again but i got a little confused in that thread about barbless/barbed hooks. but just picked up my regs but on pg 18 it is written that it is unlawful to use a hook that is not a barbless hook (see pg 15 for definition). flip flip flip and there is the def for a barbless hook. correct me if i am wrong but that seems pretty clear.

[DiabeticKripple]

the regs were printed before this all came about.

it is currently legal to use barbed hooks in Alberta.

[0liver]

Seriously, I have heard it both ways.. everyone I talk to says its something different? Anyone actually talk to F&W or SRD or what ever and get a straight answer? 2013 regs barbs are legal? or what?

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by 0liver

Seriously, I have heard it both ways.. everyone I talk to says its something different? Anyone actually talk to F&W or SRD or what ever and get a straight answer? 2013 regs barbs are legal? or what?

multiple members contacted F&W and confirmed barbed are legal due to the rewriting of the fisheries act.

F&W wants people to stay barbless, but you will not get a ticket for using barbs.

edit:

read through this thread. page 2 sundancefisher contacts SRD and he posts their reply

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...=158448&page=2

[GregT]

excellent thank you. i got lost in the pages of that thread.

[Mutter87]

Seems pretty straight foreward, AO post in court will not hold up, 2012 Alberta guide to fishing regulations will hold up in court, seems like a no brainer.

To many incompetant people out there for them to allow the use of Barbed hooks out there.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by GregT

ok i dont want to start this debate again but i got a little confused in that thread about barbless/barbed hooks. but just picked up my regs but on pg 18 it is written that it is unlawful to use a hook that is not a barbless hook (see pg 15 for definition). flip flip flip and there is the def for a barbless hook. correct me if i am wrong but that seems pretty clear.

Keep in mind that the regs manual is not a legal document nor a complete listing of current sportfishing regulations.

that is from page 1

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Mutter87

Seems pretty straight foreward, AO post in court will not hold up, 2012 Alberta guide to fishing regulations will hold up in court, seems like a no brainer.

To many incompetant people out there for them to allow the use of Barbed hooks out there.

You are wrong.

2012 Alberta guide to fishing regs has absolutely no authority in court.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Check here....an announcement is on mywildalberta.com....

http://www.mywildalberta.com/Fishing...lessHooks.aspx

This is what it says....

"Barbless Hooks
Fishing
The Government of Alberta is asking Alberta’s anglers to keep barbed hooks out of our waters.

Last fall, an inadvertent federal amendment to the Alberta Fishery Regulations removed the barbed hook ban. The omission was not immediately noted and has affected about 600 Albertans who were ticketed for using barbed hooks.

Officials from ESRD and Justice and Solicitor General are working to rectify the problem by withdrawing charges and reversing wrongful convictions and fines for those individuals affected since September 2011.

We’re working with the Government of Canada to determine the appropriate next steps as we consider the current lack of a barbed hook ban.

In the meantime, we encourage Alberta’s anglers to continue to use barbless hooks and remember that we are promoting proper handling techniques for all fish to best ensure their survival once released."

BUT keep in mind this will likely be reversed in the future...after wording gets worked out. Alot of anglers (myself included) are staying barbless....now it is a personal choice not a requirement.

LC

[BeeGuy]

Yup, beat me to it.

The change has been announced by the government.

[HunterDave]

Thanks for the post Lefty. I'd read the thread about this a couple of weeks ago but I wasn't changing anything based on what I heard here. I don't think that I have any barbed hooks that I'm using right now anyway.

[Versatile]

Whether its in a little magazine or not the current regulations say it is illegal to fish with barbed hooks.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Versatile

Whether its in a little magazine or not the current regulations say it is illegal to fish with barbed hooks.

refer to lefty's link above to an offical gov't website. k, thnx, bye.

[tysonlazo2]

I think they should make current lakes barbless like wabamun

[Caper1984]

Myself and Deepfried contacted fish and wildlife yesterday with some questions about burbot limits and night fishing on clear lake. I asked about the barbed hooks and she said they are legal to use now, though they do not encourage it. The canadian government made changes to the fishing regulations and laws that affected Alberta and failed to inform Alberta of the changes. It sounds like the barbless hook law will be back sooner or later but until such time, barbs are a go if you so choose.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Versatile

Whether its in a little magazine or not the current regulations say it is illegal to fish with barbed hooks.

It can be found more places than that if one would take the time to look....if you use barbless now, continue. Goverment media websites also have made the announcement....but do what you like

LC

[Flieguy]

i would like to see more encouragement to use circle hooks. especially when using bait. they are designed to lip hook fish only, and do not dig into the gullet or gills. I spoke to a trout unlimited member who took part in an experimental use of circle hooks and they found that the fish suffered much less stress, to the point where they were catching the same trout on the same day. In my experience unbarbed circle hooks are much more effective at landing fish than unbarbed straight hooks, and are much easier on the fish too

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Versatile

Whether its in a little magazine or not the current regulations say it is illegal to fish with barbed hooks.

What exactly are current regulations?

[rapalaman]

Well it seems a very uneducated f&w officer gave me a $200 ticket last febuary at Wabuman lake,He drove up on a snowmobile not wearing a helmet or his uniform. so with this new regulation going on does that mean i get a refund of my money and if so how do i go about getting it back??


Thanks....Greg.l

[davebuck]

All these year's of barbless hooks an you know how easy it is to release a fish with barbless hooks. I can't believe that some people are not pinching there hooks because they are worried about looseing some bait or maybe missing a fish .they had a mis print an we know it will be back in the regs next year. Oh my god lets leave the barbs on an kill some fish .

I LIVE TO FISH I DON'T FISH TO LIVE

[slimjim]

Barbed hooks are legal, which means we can play the fish and have fun fishing again, instead of water skiing the fish into the boat like a yankee bass fisherman.

[davebuck]

Originally Posted by slimjim

Barbed hooks are legal, which means we can play the fish and have fun fishing again, instead of water skiing the fish into the boat like a yankee bass fisherman.

Played a lot of fish barbless . When it was first law i was scared of looseing my first fish barbless . I landed a 16lb . Dolly in a river in a. BC . It was awesome an released it

[Mutter87]

Originally Posted by rapalaman

Well it seems a very uneducated f&w officer gave me a $200 ticket last febuary at Wabuman lake,He drove up on a snowmobile not wearing a helmet or his uniform. so with this new regulation going on does that mean i get a refund of my money and if so how do i go about getting it back??


Thanks....Greg.l

Why should you get a refund? You were under the impression barbed hooks were illegal and chose not to debard them. Whether it was legal or not you thought it was illegal and did it anyways. No refunds should be given.

Also, Last February i believe it was still illegal to use Barbs, Only from March 31st would it have been legal.

[Jimboy]

Originally Posted by davebuck

All these year's of barbless hooks an you know how easy it is to release a fish with barbless hooks. I can't believe that some people are not pinching there hooks because they are worried about looseing some bait or maybe missing a fish .they had a mis print an we know it will be back in the regs next year. Oh my god lets leave the barbs on an kill some fish .

I LIVE TO FISH I DON'T FISH TO LIVE

You do what you want , and l,ll do what l want l hook and cook , ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyy GODDDDDDDDDDDDD

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by davebuck

All these year's of barbless hooks an you know how easy it is to release a fish with barbless hooks. I can't believe that some people are not pinching there hooks because they are worried about looseing some bait or maybe missing a fish .they had a mis print an we know it will be back in the regs next year. Oh my god lets leave the barbs on an kill some fish .

I LIVE TO FISH I DON'T FISH TO LIVE

barbs dont kill fish.......

Originally Posted by Caper1984

Myself and Deepfried contacted fish and wildlife yesterday with some questions about burbot limits and night fishing on clear lake. I asked about the barbed hooks and she said they are legal to use now, though they do not encourage it. The canadian government made changes to the fishing regulations and laws that affected Alberta and failed to inform Alberta of the changes. It sounds like the barbless hook law will be back sooner or later but until such time, barbs are a go if you so choose.

In their haste to rewrite the laws so business could suck lakes and rivers dry.

Wonder what else is legal their not telling us. Maybe spear fishing through the ice is good to go now too.
Anyone got a pitchfork i can borrow. Their all out at ct