Barbed verus barbless,a side by side test

[Cal]

Originally Posted by new LT

I was not the one to decide that it was the helmet that caused my injury it was my Orthopedist. And believe me I will always take his opinion over yours.But thanks for your opinion for what it is worth...... NOTHING!

LOL, my wife had two black eyes, a broken nose, severe bruising, and neck injurys. All were deffinatly a result of the helmet, which I still have in my shed... broken. Like I said she's smart enough to be thankfull she was wearing it.

[new LT]

Originally Posted by Cal

LOL, my wife had two black eyes, a broken nose, severe bruising, and neck injurys. All were deffinatly a result of the helmet, which I still have in my shed... broken. Like I said she's smart enough to be thankfull she was wearing it.

have i ever given the notion that I WAS not glad I had my helmet on.
Not sure what thread you are reading from......!

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by new LT

Can you tell me then what the percentage of hookup to landed fish between barbed and barbless hooks in this test then. I would be very interested in your answer.

Was that part of the test?

If not, why would we discuss results which do not reflect the intent of the experiment?

I have no doubt there are many more questions which are unrelated to the experiment. For example, the impact of barbed and barbless hooks on fish mortality.

[new LT]

Originally Posted by Northwinds

Since I am waiting for parts for my air seeder,I decided to pass the time doing a test for hooking/landing percentages with barbed/barbless hooks.
To be fair,I took 2 identical rods and reels,put exactly 100 feet of line on them,then opened 2 new Apex trout lures,pinched the barbs on one and not the other.
I headed to a commercial trout pond that has roughly 3500 4.5 lb Rainbow trout that are very healthy and aggressive feeders,especially when supper is a hour late LOL.
The feed boat was used to troll both lures at the same speed,in rod holders at the same angle, the 100 feet of line was let out all the way with 10 cranks back on both reels and the test started.I decided to test until I had caught 20 fish on one lure.A fish only counted if I released it.
After about a hour,13 fish were released from the barb less rig ,with 20 being released on the barbed one.
The method of hook up was to keep the engine in gear after a bite until the slack was caught up on both rigs and only keeping the line tight until the fish was landed.
Again this was all performed on a commercial lake.

[QUOTE=BeeGuy;1963578]Read the first sentence of the first post.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by new LT

Can you tell me then what the percentage of hookup to landed fish between barbed and barbless hooks in this test then. I would be very interested in your answer.

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Was that part of the test?

If not, why would we discuss results which do not reflect the intent of the experiment?

I have no doubt there are many more questions which are unrelated to the experiment. For example, the impact of barbed and barbless hooks on fish mortality.

I would say that is what the test was ALL about. But there is no results. No matter how you try to turn thing the test showed no results because there was no proper data. You know this you just wont admit it because you said the test was fine and you hate to be wrong ..... you are begining to sound like a certain tackle maker on here now.

[JohninAB]

My question is, how has global warming affected the mating habits of the white backed european sewer rat?

[new LT]

Originally Posted by JohninAB

My question is, how has global warming affected the mating habits of the white backed european sewer rat?

They sweat more.

[BeeGuy]

[QUOTE=new LT;1963943]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Read the first sentence of the first post.[/QUOTE]





I would say that is what the test was ALL about. But there is no results. No matter how you try to turn thing the test showed no results because there was no proper data. You know this you just wont admit it because you said the test was fine and you hate to be wrong ..... you are begining to sound like a certain tackle maker on here now.

You certainly are invested in this.

It was a simple test. It yielded simple results. I think that something can be taken from those results despite their simplicity.

It's that simple.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by Cal

You could try led zeppelin 4, or fat chicks....

Looks like that is the way to go eh.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by EZM

Notice how I stayed away from this thread ..... lol .............tempting ..... but I'm staying out.............

Noticed, kinda wished I had stayed out too

I really got to get out fishin!

[OneGirlWolfPack]

Interesting test you did. Thanks for posting the results.
Personally I would love to use barbed hooks because I know it would help me land more fish, but as a beginner I also know I lack the experience to remove them quickly and carefully so I don't use them.

[new LT]

[QUOTE=BeeGuy;1964110]

Originally Posted by new LT

You certainly are invested in this.

It was a simple test. It yielded simple results. I think that something can be taken from those results despite their simplicity.

It's that simple.

My investment in this is nothing.

If it is so simple why can you not answer my simple question WHAT ARE THE RESULTS? What are the hooking and landing percentages?

[BeeGuy]

13 (thirteen) fish were released on the barbless rig.

20 (twenty) fish were released on the barbed rig.

All in the course of about an hour.

All from the first post.

[new LT]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

13 (thirteen) fish were released on the barbless rig.

20 (twenty) fish were released on the barbed rig.

All in the course of about an hour.

All from the first post.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call that a hooking to landing percentage,

now you are just grabbing at straws. Even you can't believe that is an answer...

[new LT]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

13 (thirteen) fish were released on the barbless rig.

20 (twenty) fish were released on the barbed rig.

All in the course of about an hour.

All from the first post.

Perhaps this will help you


If Bob hook 10 fish and he lands and releases 5 on a barbed hook Bob has a 50% catch rate.

If Bill hooks 5 fish and lands and releases 3 on a barbless hook Bill has a 60% catch rate

even though Bob caught more fish Bill has a better catch rate of 10%

[BeeGuy]

What you are looking for is not part of the experiment as I have already identified.

[new LT]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

What you are looking for is not part of the experiment as I have already identified.

What i'm looking for is the entire experiment you even said yourself read the first sentence "Since I am waiting for parts for my air seeder,I decided to pass the time doing a test for hooking/landing percentages with barbed/barbless hooks."Do not try to weasel your way out of it now. The test was HOOKING and LANDING PERCENTAGES as the first sentence says.You lost most of your credibility when you stated that it was a fine test you have lost the rest trying to prove it instead of admitting that you were wrong. We can continue like this for ever but you will still be wrong.Not sure how long it will take you to convince yourself but you will never convince me or anyone else that can read a simple sentence. I hope you do not do any important research. good day!

[fallen1817]

Call me crazy, but I enjoy the challenge a barbless hook brings. I'm not all that competitve about the size/amount of fish I land, but to ensure I keep my line tight and focus on my "technique" adds a new edge to the sport. I enjoy it more.

Not to mention the east of removal.

[bellr77]

I am not really sure why people bother with barbed hooks unless your in a super competitive tournament I see no point personally. Who cares if you lose a couple fish because of them? Is it ever gonna ruin your entire day? I fished barbless hooks 99% of the time when I liven in Saskatchewan and barbs were legal. Truth is it makes life easier when you can retrieve your hook quick and easy and is better for sustainability.

[FishingReviewsTV]

Originally Posted by bellr77

I am not really sure why people bother with barbed hooks unless your in a super competitive tournament I see no point personally. Who cares if you lose a couple fish because of them? Is it ever gonna ruin your entire day? I fished barbless hooks 99% of the time when I liven in Saskatchewan and barbs were legal. Truth is it makes life easier when you can retrieve your hook quick and easy and is better for sustainability.

100% absolutely agree with you. I fish barbless 95% of the time.

In BC a lot of lakes, and streams are illegal to fish with a barb. What really gets me is when I see someone using a treble hook with barbs. Unless you're fishing 100% to feed your family, that's just evil.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by bellr77

I am not really sure why people bother with barbed hooks unless your in a super competitive tournament I see no point personally. Who cares if you lose a couple fish because of them? Is it ever gonna ruin your entire day? I fished barbless hooks 99% of the time when I liven in Saskatchewan and barbs were legal. Truth is it makes life easier when you can retrieve your hook quick and easy and is better for sustainability.

Theres more to it than that

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by fallen1817

Call me crazy, but I enjoy the challenge a barbless hook brings. I'm not all that competitve about the size/amount of fish I land, but to ensure I keep my line tight and focus on my "technique" adds a new edge to the sport. I enjoy it more.

Not to mention the east of removal.

I like not having the hassel of pinching barbs and adding something to keep the bait on, the west

[EZM]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Noticed, kinda wished I had stayed out too

I really got to get out fishin!

Just spending my time getting all the gear set up in my new boat.

Cleaned up the tackle trays/ boxes, sharpened up the hooks, and Dremeled off the barbs on all my new gear I purchased over the winter months.

Now ........ ready for opening day WEDNESDAY !!!!!

According to this post, my landing rates may decrease. On the other hand, my release rates will increase ......lol.

[bodomtyrant]

I one is skilled enough you dont need barbs

[new LT]

Originally Posted by EZM

Just spending my time getting all the gear set up in my new boat.

Cleaned up the tackle trays/ boxes, sharpened up the hooks, and Dremeled off the barbs on all my new gear I purchased over the winter months.

Now ........ ready for opening day WEDNESDAY !!!!!

According to this post, my landing rates may decrease. On the other hand, my release rates will increase ......lol.

That was a mistake to dremel off barbs heard they were going to ban BARBLESS hooks...........

[EZM]

Originally Posted by new LT

That was a mistake to dremel off barbs heard they were going to ban BARBLESS hooks...........

OMG !!!!!!!! don't even kid about that .... I would have to replace 600 hooks just on my crankbaits alone !!!!!!! had to go down to 14 trays of tackle to fit into my tackle locker ....... lol ............

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by EZM

OMG !!!!!!!! don't even kid about that .... I would have to replace 600 hooks just on my crankbaits alone !!!!!!! had to go down to 14 trays of tackle to fit into my tackle locker ....... lol ............

Why don't you replace the treble hooks with single hooks?

It's much more ethical.

They come out way easier and cause much less injury to the fish.

[Reddin]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

It's much more ethical.

They come out way easier and cause much less injury to the fish.

As with barbless.

[BeeGuy]

Do you have any peer reviewed primary literature to support that or is it your gut feeling?

[Reddin]

Barbed hooks catch more fish because they have barbs. Barbed hooks are more difficult to remove because they have barbs. It's not rocket science.

[BeeGuy]

Personally, I find treble hooks more difficult to remove than single hooks sometimes, but don't find much difference between barb and no barb.