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Old 01-23-2020, 12:41 PM
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Default Not sure if true or not, but interesting read. I like it, should be law everywhere

MASS exodus from Florida . . .
Highway I-95 and I-75 will be jammed for the next
month or so with druggies and deadbeats heading
North out of Florida, because this is the first state
in the union to require drug testing to receive welfare.....

Hooray for Florida. In signing the new law, Republican
Gov. Rick Scott said, "If Floridians want welfare, they
better make sure they are drug-free."

Applicants must pay for the drug test, but are
reimbursed if they test drug-free. Applicants who test
positive for illicit substances, won't be eligible for the
funds for a year, or until they undergo treatment.
Those who fail a second time will be banned from
receiving funds for three years!

Naturally, a few people are crying this is
unconstitutional. How is this unconstitutional?
It's a legal requirement that every person applying
for a job has to pass drug tests in order to get the job,
why not those who receive welfare?


Let's get welfare back to the ones who
need it, in Canada, Australia and New
Zealand, not to those who won't get a job.
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:48 PM
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X 100% In Agreement
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:49 PM
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I’ve said this for years. Wish we had this in place.
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:59 PM
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I think everyone not on welfare and not a coddling liberal pantywaist has said the same thing.

Common sense, what a thing to lose.
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Old 01-23-2020, 01:04 PM
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It’s a great idea that I Hope is adopted by other states and countries.

This should be sent to JK for consideration.

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Old 01-23-2020, 01:07 PM
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It’s a great idea that I Hope is adopted by other states and countries.

This should be sent to JK for consideration.

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Old 01-23-2020, 01:15 PM
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This was close to 10 years ago, and the state lost money on the program. I'm sure there are ways to improve the system, but it isn't always as simple as it seems.
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Yeah, floating around Facebook......Fake News.

I read on Facebook that a new law in Florida requires welfare recipients to get drug tests and, as a result, thousands of welfare recipients have left the state. True or not?

Florida only required welfare recipients to undergo drug tests for four months back in 2011, so reports that the “new” law led to a mass exodus of welfare recipients from the state are false.

https://www.jacksonville.com/article...news/801246267
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Old 01-23-2020, 01:23 PM
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Aww too bad.

I do like the idea.
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Old 01-23-2020, 01:25 PM
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Aww too bad.

I do like the idea.
Yeah but they'd just enter Canada illegally and put additional pressure on our social system.

DERAIL ALERT!
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Old 01-23-2020, 01:27 PM
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It makes perfect sense in every way... therefore it will never fly in Canada unfortunately.
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Yeah but they'd just enter Canada illegally and put additional pressure on our social system.

DERAIL ALERT!
We could build a wall?
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We could build a wall?
Or sparkles socks could just send out a tweet.....
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Sparkle Socks couldn't pass the drug test.

I love the idea! Even if it costs more to administer than it saves, I still love the idea.
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We could build a wall?
But then we would need more RCMP to help the illegals over the wall.
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But then we would need more RCMP to help the illegals over the wall.
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It should be the law but it's not, the democrats and the human right commission quashed it in 4 months, to many bleeding hearts out there that feel welfare is a " right " can you imagine trying to get a law like that passed with sparkle socks at the helm
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It should be the law but it's not, the democrats and the human right commission quashed it in 4 months, to many bleeding hearts out there that feel welfare is a " right " can you imagine trying to get a law like that passed with sparkle socks at the helm
Just need to convice him that all Albertans are opposed to it. Throw in the other provinces for good measure, in case he conveniently forgets where we are again.
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The way things have gotten with all these hard drugs I would say why not give it a go. Medical users of Cannabis would probably be exempt I’m guessing.
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In theory this might sound like a good idea but I'm willing to bet that if you cut welfare off for crackheads the crime rate would skyrocket.
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In theory this might sound like a good idea but I'm willing to bet that if you cut welfare off for crackheads the crime rate would skyrocket.
Build more jails. That's not an excuse
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Build more jails. That's not an excuse
Probably cheaper to just give them welfare than incarcerating them.
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Probably cheaper to just give them welfare than incarcerating them.
Don’t let your “math” and “facts” get in the way of my feelings. What are you a communist?
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It should be the law but it's not, the democrats and the human right commission quashed it in 4 months, to many bleeding hearts out there that feel welfare is a " right " can you imagine trying to get a law like that passed with sparkle socks at the helm
Imagine if welfare didn’t exist how much better off the entire world could be!

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i tend to agree with some of the comments . it sounds great in theory but if you cut out welfare , drug addicts are not just going to quit using , they will find money somewhere . and that would probably be in our yards and houses .
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Yeah, floating around Facebook......Fake News.

I read on Facebook that a new law in Florida requires welfare recipients to get drug tests and, as a result, thousands of welfare recipients have left the state. True or not?

Florida only required welfare recipients to undergo drug tests for four months back in 2011, so reports that the “new” law led to a mass exodus of welfare recipients from the state are false.

https://www.jacksonville.com/article...news/801246267
Looks to me like it isn't as Fake News as suggested.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/human-...ssistance.aspx

Florida's law looks to have been halted by a judge, but appears other states are and more have introduced similar legislation. It's an interesting idea.
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Yeah, floating around Facebook......Fake News.

I read on Facebook that a new law in Florida requires welfare recipients to get drug tests and, as a result, thousands of welfare recipients have left the state. True or not?

Florida only required welfare recipients to undergo drug tests for four months back in 2011, so reports that the “new” law led to a mass exodus of welfare recipients from the state are false.

https://www.jacksonville.com/article...news/801246267
From the link, and what a shocker. Demo-RATS call it unfair and say it amounts to a strip search. No DUMMY, it amounts to accountability!

I would be 100% in favour of that happening here.

Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state’s congressional delegation, including Rep. Corrine Brown, issued a joint statement, calling it “downright unconstitutional.”

The tests “represent an extreme and illegal invasion of personal privacy,” Brown said in the joint statement. “Indeed, investigating people when there is probable cause to suspect they are abusing drugs is one thing. But these tests amount to strip searching our state’s most vulnerable residents merely because they rely on the government for financial support during these difficult economic times.”

Florida is the home of imbalanced people, some of the best reading on the interwebs starts with A Florida man. Try Googling "A Florida man" and check out some of those stories, some pretty funny stuff.
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