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03-25-2017, 01:01 PM
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Stump removal
I have access to the North Sask river through a farmers property. There has been a trail cut through some trees so a person could launch a boat. The trail goes through a low spot and for one reason or another (beavers) the trail has gotten chewed up and it's foot access now. I would like to take my skid steer there and level out a trail. The problem is the stumps.
When the trail was made a few years ago, there were a few black poplar trees cut down. My skid steer won't handle much of a stump.
I was thinking of drilling some holes into the stumps and filling the holes with something to rot out the wood. Nitrogen maybe? Or is there a commercial product that will do a better job?
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03-25-2017, 01:17 PM
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You can buy commercially made stuff from Canadian Tire , Home Hardware, etc.
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03-25-2017, 01:18 PM
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Have you looked into a stump bucket?
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03-25-2017, 01:50 PM
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Choose your weapons. Spade, Axe, Sawzall, Chain, Tannerite. Have fun.
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03-25-2017, 02:10 PM
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1/2 stick of Forcite.
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03-25-2017, 02:58 PM
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Having a fire on top of the stump burns it down a fair ways. However there were some methods mentioned that would be a little more fun
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03-25-2017, 03:05 PM
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Just use high nitrogen fertilizer.. it will help decomposition.
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03-25-2017, 03:35 PM
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Epson Salt is the cheapest and easiest way. Just drill holes as deep as you can all over the stump and fill with Epson salt and a little water. It will totally kill the stump in about a 4-6 weeks. You will still have to pry it out but your skid steer should have no problem at that point.
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03-25-2017, 03:44 PM
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i would think a pressure washer to wash/dig/expose the root and sawsall the thing off.
of course access to electricity, water and a hi flow pressure washer would be essential. this would be fine for a stump in the yard but in the field its different story.
digging stumps with skidsteer is easy enough to do, just start excavating 8-10 ft away and dig a 2 ft deep trench into it on three or four sides. a tooth bucket is better than strait edge to grab and rip a single root at a time, flip it out of the ground, back fill and move on.
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03-25-2017, 04:07 PM
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This trick is called "the Swedish Torch". I plan on trying this in my fire pit, might work for stump removal. Bring some wieners and marshmallows while you're at it.
https://www.facebook.com/sobadsogood...0835530329517/
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03-25-2017, 04:38 PM
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stump gone...BOOM!!!
Maybe try that thundershot that they sell ar wholesale sports... have some fun at same time
KABOOM !!! ...stump gone
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03-25-2017, 08:40 PM
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Know any one with a D9G Cat that will remove them stumps very quickly
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03-26-2017, 09:36 AM
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Rent a stump grinder and you will be done and using the trail the same day, Dogfish
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03-26-2017, 09:41 AM
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I have thought about using Tannerite or a similar product but they think you should be about 100 yards back from it when you set it off but I can't manage that at the site.
I have a D7E but it isn't running right now and if it was , it's 15 miles away. I have talked to a couple of cat skinners about a quick cash job but nobody had other work close by.
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03-26-2017, 10:43 AM
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Wonder if you could find a place that would rent something like this for your skid steer?
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03-26-2017, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RancheroMan
Wonder if you could find a place that would rent something like this for your skid steer?
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An attachment I don't have is an auger, but I have wondered how well one would work on a stump.
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03-26-2017, 12:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sjr
Know any one with a D9G Cat that will remove them stumps very quickly
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Lol,,,a D9G,,, if it gets there on its own then plant a flower garden to let the thing die in. I haven't seen one of those moving on its own power in years, tough enough to find people use in an H.
If there is only a few big stumps you can rend a stump grinder from most rental shops. If you rent it Friday afternoon and they are closed on sundays you get to use it for 2 days for the price of Saturday.
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03-26-2017, 03:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOGFISH
Rent a stump grinder and you will be done and using the trail the same day, Dogfish
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If you have the access to get them in there, either a handlebar style or self propelled stump grinder will take a good number of stumps down level with the ground in short order. Seriously, no need farting around with anything else, this is absolutely the tool for the job.
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03-26-2017, 03:41 PM
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Turn chain saw on side, cut stump level with ground
Do not share this ancient bush secret with city dwellers
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03-26-2017, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RancheroMan
Wonder if you could find a place that would rent something like this for your skid steer?
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I have seen stump grinders for a skid steer close to the one dogfish pictures. Or mills/mulchers. I have never seen anything like that before. It looks too fragile to me, for someone to be hammering stumps in a skid steer.
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03-26-2017, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkdump
Turn chain saw on side, cut stump level with ground
Do not share this ancient bush secret with city dwellers
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HAHAHAHAHA
Problem is the trail ruts out and the stump never recedes.
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03-26-2017, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HyperMOA
HAHAHAHAHA
Problem is the trail ruts out and the stump never recedes.
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And by the comments, not many have dealt with black poplar
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03-26-2017, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sourdough doug
And by the comments, not many have dealt with black poplar
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I know that most of the black poplar I cut level to ground ( the circumference of a lot of them was about 80 inches ) to make trails for the kids on our property ,are still hard and un rotted to this day, that was 24 years ago, but we were making trails, not cultivating garden plots or high speed roads ,,,
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03-26-2017, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOGFISH
Rent a stump grinder and you will be done and using the trail the same day, Dogfish
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Those little rentals are useless, don't waste your money. I watched a neighbour out at the lake struggling with one last year. It took all day to take out three 12" sized poplar stumps. Absolutely brutal to watch.
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Originally Posted by elkdump
Turn chain saw on side, cut stump level with ground
Do not share this ancient bush secret with city dwellers
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Lol.....Yup.
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03-26-2017, 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HyperMOA
I have seen stump grinders for a skid steer close to the one dogfish pictures. Or mills/mulchers. I have never seen anything like that before. It looks too fragile to me, for someone to be hammering stumps in a skid steer.
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Yeah, I have no experience with this grinder so I couldn't say for sure. It was funny as this video just passed my computer screen in the last few days then I saw this thread!
https://youtu.be/urD-X3u3A6k
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03-26-2017, 07:56 PM
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Wonder how my father and uncle summer job when they were teenagers cleared a 1/4 section of land with just axe's and a team of horses on the family farm west of Mayerthorpe back in the early 40's . When its tough out there , the tough get going . All black poplar and spruce , and sure they didn't get any permits from the powers to be to do there little project .
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03-26-2017, 08:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Xbolt7mm;3502818]Lol,,,a D9G,,, if it gets there on its own then plant a flower garden to let the thing die in. I haven't seen one of those moving on its own power in years, tough enough to find people use in an H.
Guess I must be old school , can still start a pony motor on any Cat and get the beast running + run it all day every day . . The 9H with direct start was a piece of cake . Still the best Cats that Caterpillar ever made . PS there still more than a few out there working . Pretty hard to stop them, all it takes is a bit of maintenance and common sense . Guess that real hard to find these days
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03-26-2017, 08:23 PM
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Only a few stumps? Beer, a couple of shovels, an axe and a few friends for a couple hours. Skid steer is a bonus.
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03-26-2017, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterDave
Those little rentals are useless, don't waste your money. I watched a neighbour out at the lake struggling with one last year. It took all day to take out three 12" sized poplar stumps. Absolutely brutal to watch.
Lol.....Yup.
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Then rent a bigger one, the one i rented ground a poplar stump that was 2 feet accross in 20 minutes and took it 20 inchs down from ground level
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03-26-2017, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RancheroMan
Yeah, I have no experience with this grinder so I couldn't say for sure. It was funny as this video just passed my computer screen in the last few days then I saw this thread!
https://youtu.be/urD-X3u3A6k
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That thing turns about 15 RPM. Its much slower than I thought. I figured it would be at least a couple hundred RPM. It looks pretty effective, but slowwwwwwww. A quick attack stump grinder on that 297 would eat a stump in a minute or two.
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