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Old 03-25-2017, 03:19 PM
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Who would have thought it was a crime to wear a mask in public?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/wo...word-in-public

There are a lot of ladies out there who may need to take heed to this one to avoid arrest. Tammy Faye, are you paying attention?
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:28 PM
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That's hilarious it's against the law to wear a mask but its ok to walk around with a sward lol what a world we live in .
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:31 PM
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The cops will be real busy on October 31st.
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:33 PM
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I wonder what exactly the law is. If I wear a ski mask in public because it is cold I can get arrested? There has to be more to this law, and what about women that walk around with their faces covered? How about when folks wear surgical masks to avoid sicknesses? The actual law would be interesting to see.
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A few more details ... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.3008776
" ... According to the Virginia law, it’s illegal “for any person over 16 years of age, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood, or other device, whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered, so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place ... ”

Also see the bottom of this article ... http://www.whsv.com/content/news/Win...417058743.html

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that ^ law was written back in the day, with the KKK in mind.

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Old 03-25-2017, 04:34 PM
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Sooo...isn't a hijab the same thing and accomplishes the same purpose
A mask concealing ones identity
But he is a white male
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:37 PM
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A few more details ... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.3008776
" ... According to the Virginia law, it’s illegal “for any person over 16 years of age, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood, or other device, whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered, so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place ... ”

Also see the bottom of this article ... http://www.whsv.com/content/news/Win...417058743.html

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that ^ law was written back in the day, with the KKK in mind.

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Probably was brought in due to robberies...
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Sooo...isn't a hijab the same thing and accomplishes the same purpose
A mask concealing ones identity
But he is a white male
Um, do you know what a hijab is?
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:44 PM
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Um, do you know what a hijab is?
The answer to that is of course...NO he does not.
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I wonder if it has anything to do with the rash of clown mask wearing people?
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:17 PM
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Bill C-309 was brought into law in Canada in 2013 as a response to a rash of violent protests; it prohibits concealing your identity during riots and other "unlawful assemblies".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preven...Assemblies_Act

That said, it was always against the law to hide your identity when committing any crime ("disguise with intent"), but there was a high burden of proof. They had to prove you planned a crime, and if they could, then they could tack on this charge. Cops couldn't just arrest you for wearing a mask without that proof. Bill C-309 gave them grounds to arrest and charge you if you were wearing a mask and participating in riots.

So: In Canada, no worries about wearing a balaclava in public unless you're rioting or otherwise committing a crime.

Selkirk was right, though. In the States, anti-mask laws were brought into place as a response to the KKK in the middle of the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-m...#United_States
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So funny that if you wear a mask during the commission of a crime, it is an additional offence, but when swearing in as a citizen of a country, concealing your true identity is totally acceptable. God bless Canada. Allah wagbar
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They probably only went to talk to him because he was carrying a sword....
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Bill C-309 was brought into law in Canada in 2013 as a response to a rash of violent protests; it prohibits concealing your identity during riots and other "unlawful assemblies".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preven...Assemblies_Act

That said, it was always against the law to hide your identity when committing any crime ("disguise with intent"), but there was a high burden of proof. They had to prove you planned a crime, and if they could, then they could tack on this charge. Cops couldn't just arrest you for wearing a mask without that proof. Bill C-309 gave them grounds to arrest and charge you if you were wearing a mask and participating in riots.

So: In Canada, no worries about wearing a balaclava in public unless you're rioting or otherwise committing a crime.

Selkirk was right, though. In the States, anti-mask laws were brought into place as a response to the KKK in the middle of the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-m...#United_States
Yep, same laws exist in Canada.

Seen a guy - at least I think it was a guy - walking around in a darth vader helmet. Weird, takes all kinds but fill yer boots.
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The people streaming into the Stampede grounds when the Comic-Con (or whatever they call it) is happening certainly raise a few eyebrows. They sure catch your attention when waking down the street on their way to the event.
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Who would have thought it was a crime to wear a mask in public?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/wo...word-in-public

There are a lot of ladies out there who may need to take heed to this one to avoid arrest. Tammy Faye, are you paying attention?
You do know this article is from the Excited States of America?

In Canada masks are OK except when used with intent to hide identify while committing an offence.

Actually in many cases we have more freedoms than the country that boasts in song about being the land of the free.
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You do know this article is from the Excited States of America?
Yup, I knew that. Still found the article funny, as they arrested him for wearing a mask, not wielding a sword. What was your point?
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Yup, I knew that. Still found the article funny, as they arrested him for wearing a mask, not wielding a sword. What was your point?
Say What?!

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Sooo...isn't a Hijab the same thing and accomplishes the same purpose
A mask concealing ones identity
But he is a white male




Hijab; https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hijab
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Yup, I knew that. Still found the article funny, as they arrested him for wearing a mask, not wielding a sword. What was your point?
Your post was not all that funny and seemed to be just to bring out the hijab, ski mask and sword guys.

Other than Halloween, wearing that type of mask is unusual but to be newsworthy here? Give me a break!

Do you only expect positive remarks to such trivia?
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Who would have thought it was a crime to wear a mask in public?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/wo...word-in-public

There are a lot of ladies out there who may need to take heed to this one to avoid arrest. Tammy Faye, are you paying attention?
ROFLMAO
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ROFLMAO
TC Is that better?
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The wearing of the Hijab by Muslim women was a custom copied from Byzantine Christians that occupied the same area.
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Your post was not all that funny and seemed to be just to bring out the hijab, ski mask and sword guys.
We all find different things funny. Could you find the post where I mentioned a hijab, or made any mention of anything remotely about any religion, or how they dress?

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Only if it makes you feel better. I'm secure.
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He can beat that rap. He wasn't wearing a mask, but makeup. Lots of people wear makeup.
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I read the headline and saw the picture yesterday morning from Fox news
online.

First thing to come to mind was another example of the younger generation
not knowing reality from hollywood, what's really real and what's not.
The original superman was only able to fly on TV, when he actually jumped off a
building for real, he fell down.

The second thing to come to mind was (sick humor here) the guy was an
actor in a local play, dressed up at home and was on his way to the theater
when he got pulled over. :-)

It's not uncommon these days to see a lot of "weird things".
But totin' a sword in addition was crossing the line.
Glad they caught up with him before something bad happend.
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Old 03-27-2017, 07:19 AM
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Looooooser.....

I'd say he needs a timeout to think about his behaviour anyways. Maybe take some classes in jail and try to get a job when he gets out. The comic book store in town isn't hiring and the video store closed down. What's a guy to do?
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The wearing of the Hijab by Muslim women was a custom copied from Byzantine Christians that occupied the same area.
OMG. Even worse. Cultural appropriation!
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