Using drones for waterfowl hunting

[JD848]

The problem here is the ones who buys it for good old honest fun and then rotten poachers or criminals who will try anything to beat the system are trouble for the good ones,anything that fly's with and engine is not allowed in anyways or form to be used for hunting wildlife,so the bad ones make it a bad deal for the honest ones.This not about hunting ,way bigger picture.

I thought about buying one of these years ago when I guided looking for lost boats and showing people where to fish,but fishing is a gray area,plus I knew what poachers or pot crow op's would be buying these also,so I backed out and happy I did because my prediction was correct,all this terrorist stuff and everthing and everyone will be watched more closely,in five years the planet has turned upside down,so it's not just drones that are on the list,big brother is on high alert and like it or not there's good reason,nothing heavy duty has went down in Canada ,but don't hold your breath,i don't like seeing anyones things limited or taken away,but just read the news the world is more dangerous than ever.

More stealing going on every day,streets in Winnipeg are a hazard day or night,so drones are a thing that can case out a home or property to see when one leaves and returns,drop something dangerous and the list goes on and the honest guys are caught in the middle.This not about not wanting to stick together it's a matter of national security and we could all jump up and down and it won't help,probably make it worst.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

Let me understand this. I have a drone in the air and see a decoy flipped upside down, go out put it back upright and return to the blind. That would be illegal?
I have a drone up recording a flock of birds coming in being shot at, that would be legal?

How would you ever prove that? What F&W officer has the time to waste even worrying about that?

That is the whole deal right there, thee intent of the situation.

Checking for a flipped decoy is one thing, checking a slough where you cannot see it from the road and sending a drone up instead is another matter altogether.
F&W may very well look at both scenarios in a different light.
Cat

[CMichaud]

I think we have to be careful with escalating this. An interesting video of what could happen if we started to use drones for waterfowl. Where will it stop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNS6STVDO4

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by CMichaud

I think we have to be careful with escalating this. An interesting video of what could happen if we started to use drones for waterfowl. Where will it stop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNS6STVDO4

The best post of the whole drone thread

[jungleboy]

How people ever managed to hunt and fish and survive before the 21st century is beyond me. I mean how is it possible to even consider a goose hunt if a decoy is set up in the exact right position.

[Pikebreath]

One thing lost in this discussion is that a drone looks a lot like an eagle to a duck or goose. Using drones for spotting is likely self defeating as any drone passing over a bunch if birds will alarm them and put them up which if you are trying to pattern birds is not usually a good thing.

Now if you were using the drone to flush and haze birds off certain spots that certainly could be construed as harassing wildlife.


however taking pictures of your spread to get a birds eye view to see what it looks like is really isn't any different than using Google earth to look for potential travel lanes, feeding and bedding areas for big game hunting. Neither is hurting wildlife or someone else's hunt.

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by Pikebreath

however taking pictures of your spread to get a birds eye view to see what it looks like is really isn't any different than using Google earth to look for potential travel lanes, feeding and bedding areas for big game hunting. Neither is hurting wildlife or someone else's hunt.

Yes it is different. Google earth is not in real time. I just checked mine and it is not even in real season. Google earth is more like using a map.

[Wolftrapper]

Are we getting that bad at hunting or are the animals so much smarter that we want to use drones now, satellites, etc.
I think I'll stick to my old methods personally. Not judging, just each to their own I guess.

[Fur]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

How people ever managed to hunt and fish and survive before the 21st century is beyond me. I mean how is it possible to even consider a goose hunt if a decoy is set up in the exact right position.

Lots more game and less pressure!

I think back in the day you could not walk around here without stepping on a buffalo!

The crazy gadgets for hunting does make me laugh, but I admire the perfection of some of the hunters on this board.

[Opa]

Originally Posted by Fur

Lots more game and less pressure!

I think back in the day you could not walk around here without stepping on a buffalo!

The crazy gadgets for hunting does make me laugh, but I admire the perfection of some of the hunters on this board.

Perfection??? Too much TV, too much money, and too gullible!!!!

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by Wolftrapper

Are we getting that bad at hunting or are the animals so much smarter that we want to use drones now, satellites, etc.
I think I'll stick to my old methods personally. Not judging, just each to their own I guess.

No I do not think we are getting bad at hunting and the animals are getting smarter. I just think that those who use drones are a full notch lower than road hunters, and I am judging.

I think the use of drones will be the new road hunting and will remain that way till satellite hunting becomes fashionable.

[boomstick]

Fly a drone over me when im hunting and ill be looking for a recipe for that thing . In my opion this is the same as flying in , spotting animals and hunting them the same day.

[Pikebreath]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

Yes it is different. Google earth is not in real time. I just checked mine and it is not even in real season. Google earth is more like using a map.

And I can guarentee you if you are flying that drone over your spread in real time when the birds you trying to shoot are flying too,,, well let's put it this way ,,,,
that drone will save the ducks and geese from actually getting shot over you spread.


In fact flying drones over decoy spreads during actual hunting hours would be a really good PETA ploy to disrupt the hunt.

As far decoy spreads and drones go, all they can is give you "a map of your spread."

That is I suppose until some snow goose fanatic decides to launch a few hundred drones all dressed up as snow geese with ecallers buzzing around the spread.

[covey ridge]

If you put out a couple thousand decoys and then you check Google earth you would not see anything because the Google photo was taken months before.

[Pikebreath]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

If you put out a couple thousand decoys and then you check Google earth you would not see anything because the Google photo was taken months before.

So what's your thoughts on trail cams, how do they fit your definition of real time ?

[Pikebreath]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

If you put out a couple thousand decoys and then you check Google earth you would not see anything because the Google photo was taken months before.

So what's your thoughts on trail cams, how do they fit your definition of real time and hunting?

[RandyBoBandy]

Originally Posted by Ruger99

Wonder if there would be a charge with shooting down a drone?

Not if you apply for the special draw and tag it

[anthony5]

If you haven't got your decoy spread figured out by now, a drone sure ain't gonna help.

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by Pikebreath

So what's your thoughts on trail cams, how do they fit your definition of real time ?

No problem with trail cams.

It just occurred to me that when you mentioned Google earth you thought that it was real time and no different than a drone

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by Pikebreath

And I can guarentee you if you are flying that drone over your spread in real time when the birds you trying to shoot are flying too,,, well let's put it this way ,,,,
that drone will save the ducks and geese from actually getting shot over you spread.


In fact flying drones over decoy spreads during actual hunting hours would be a really good PETA ploy to disrupt the hunt.

As far decoy spreads and drones go, all they can is give you "a map of your spread."

That is I suppose until some snow goose fanatic decides to launch a few hundred drones all dressed up as snow geese with ecallers buzzing around the spread.

You are arguing with yourself here

[tikka250]

ok now lets all calm down untie our panties and think about this. here is a video describing what the OP was wanting to do. not film other people, not to scout birds just a cool look of the decoys from the air. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec7ayHpeTy0

[Diesel_wiesel]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

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Maybe people should leave other people and their property the **** alone, and mind their own ****ing business.

it would be such a great world to live in if more of this would happen
but the biggest problem in this country is its been driven into peoples heads to tattle tale on the next person
as well everyone is so much cooler on line and as well an expert

[Diesel_wiesel]

Originally Posted by tikka250

ok now lets all calm down untie our panties and think about this. here is a video describing what the OP was wanting to do. not film other people, not to scout birds just a cool look of the decoys from the air. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec7ayHpeTy0

I see nothing wrong with this type of drone usage
but to use it to scout wildlife and spy on others then they should be illegal
even for the government and the police as well
same as traffic radar cams ,
when the scams happen the whole city should be punished by having to dismantle their traffic cams for one year
that should make em pull up their socks

[tikka250]

Originally Posted by Diesel_wiesel

I see nothing wrong with this type of drone usage
but to use it to scout wildlife and spy on others then they should be illegal
even for the government and the police as well
same as traffic radar cams ,
when the scams happen the whole city should be punished by having to dismantle their traffic cams for one year
that should make em pull up their socks

yep and the OP did not ask about any of that he asked about filming the decoys. people seem so caught up on telling the world that they want to blast someone elses drone that they forgot to read the first post.

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by tikka250

ok now lets all calm down untie our panties and think about this. here is a video describing what the OP was wanting to do. not film other people, not to scout birds just a cool look of the decoys from the air. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec7ayHpeTy0

Cool video, but this does not answer the question that the OP posted?



""""So are you allowed to hunt using a drone when water fowling? I know you are not allowed to use one when hunting for big game. I ask because a few of my friends use drones to see what their spreads look like from the air, and record some birds """"

Lots of opinion that resulted in lots of un wanted opinion. Even a few quotes from the regs.

If I were to undertake something like this during hunting season, I would ask someone who enforces wildlife regulations and not ask on a public forum. I am sure that there are many here that can cut and paste from the regs and there are some that actually know how the law is enforced but there are also many who just have an opinion. Just me, but I would never trust legal advice from a public forum.

For me I have no problem with anyone doing a video from the air if that is all they are doing, but that is not a legal opinion.

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by tikka250

yep and the OP did not ask about any of that he asked about filming the decoys. people seem so caught up on telling the world that they want to blast someone elses drone that they forgot to read the first post.

Those who read the OP noted that he asked about hunting and even mentioned hunting in the title and then he went on to say something about spotting birds and then he ended with

Most of us that have read them know what the regs say but then there is the interpretation of what the regs say.

Legal or not legal????

The OP should not get his answer here.

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

Those who read the OP noted that he asked about hunting and even mentioned hunting in the title and then he went on to say something about spotting birds and then he ended with

Most of us that have read them know what the regs say but then there is the interpretation of what the regs say.

Legal or not legal????

The OP should not get his answer here.

Well I said hunting because everything to do in regards to the final hunt is considered hunting, and I wasn't planning on taking the opinions here as legal advice. I don't even own a drone but wanted to know if there was a grey area with filming my hunt with a drone, like people film fishing and hunting videos using a drone. I know there is a grey area as well when using an E-caller for snow geese having snow geese decoys, but shooting Canada and Specks over that spread since you cannot use e-callers for those species.

[Pikebreath]

Originally Posted by gloszz

Well I said hunting because everything to do in regards to the final hunt is considered hunting, and I wasn't planning on taking the opinions here as legal advice. I don't even own a drone but wanted to know if there was a grey area with filming my hunt with a drone, like people film fishing and hunting videos using a drone. I know there is a grey area as well when using an E-caller for snow geese having snow geese decoys, but shooting Canada and Specks over that spread since you cannot use e-callers for those species.

No grey area about using ecallers for waterfowl ..... snow goose sounds only,,, you can use any color decoy you like and shoot any waterfowl for which there is an open season

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by gloszz

but wanted to know if there was a grey area with filming my hunt with a drone,

I would not look for a grey area but ask those in authority to define in black and white. I think there MAY be some provisions for special permission as I have seen a few drone views from time to time. Illegal acts captured on public posting of videos are often tracked down and prosecuted.

I know a fellow that went out of province and posted a film of himself and friends using and AR on a farm. The feds were calling on his home before he got back to Calgary.

[Diesel_wiesel]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

I know a fellow that went out of province and posted a film of himself and friends using and AR on a farm. The feds were calling on his home before he got back to Calgary.

social media such as facebook and twitter and youtube
can work for or against a person
if people are stupid enough to think the law don't check this stuff out and arrogant enough to think they wont get caught
well then I suppose
stupid is one thing you just cant fix