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Old 06-19-2017, 05:49 PM
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Default Skeena River fishing update anyone planning fishing from now to JUly 15, 2017

Just read this fishery Notice,
anyone planning fishing the river from now to JUly 15, 2017, may want to change there plans or check into to this closer.


Mon Jun 19/17 5:54am

Fishery Notice
Category(s):
RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject: FN0547-RECREATIONAL - Salmon - Skeena River - Region 6 - Salmon Close Time Effective Immediately

Effective immediately recreational salmon fishing in the entire Skeena River
Watershed will be closed to July 14, 2017.

Variation Order #2017-299

This closure is being implemented to facilitate First Nations harvesting of
Skeena salmon due to predicted low returns of Skeena River sockeye salmon in
2017. Recreational, commercial, and First Nations food, social and ceremonial
(FSC) harvesting of sockeye salmon will be closed for the 2017 season, unless
there is an in-season indication of increased Skeena sockeye abundance.

Recreational harvesting opportunities for Skeena coho, pink and Chinook salmon
will re-open on July 15. Please refer to the on-line BC Sport Fishing Guide
and future Fishery Notices for details on confirmed opening dates, times and
other restrictions.

Notes: Did you witness suspicious fishing activity or a violation? If so, please call
the Fisheries and Ocean Canada 24-hour toll free Observe, Record, Report line
at (800) 465-4336 or the British Columbia's toll-free RAPP line (Report All
Poachers and Polluters) at 1-877-952-RAPP (7277).

For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at
1-(866)431-FISH (3474).

FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Fishing information, contact:
John Webb
Recreational Fisheries Manager
Fisheries & Oceans Canada
417 - 2nd Ave West, Prince Rupert, BC, V8J 1G8
250 627-3409
John.Webb@dfo-mpo.gc.ca

Media inquiries, contact:

Lara Sloan
Communications Officer
Fisheries & Oceans Canada
(250) 363-3749
Lara.Sloan@dfo-mpo.gc.ca
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN0547
Sent June 15, 2017 at 1524

Cast on this link to view on DFO website:
http://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap...=197473&ID=all
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That makes me very sad, it was bad last year too!

Here is another interesting fact, all the wild Chinook and Cohos that are commercially caught are shipped directly to China. Apparently Canadians don't deserve them

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Old 06-20-2017, 12:08 AM
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That makes me very sad, it was bad last year too!

Here is another interesting fact, all the wild Chinook and Cohos that are commercially caught are shipped directly to China. Apparently Canadians don't deserve them
Oh we might deserve them.. We just won't pay for them....
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Oh we might deserve them.. We just won't pay for them....
Could have fooled me, I drop around 7 grand a trip to go and catch them.
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Old 06-20-2017, 09:28 AM
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Could have fooled me, I drop around 7 grand a trip to go and catch them.
You do know that a market is built on millions of people not just you?

If your paying 7G a trip, your paying to much.
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You do know that a market is built on millions of people not just you?

If your paying 7G a trip, your paying to much.
How do you know that I am paying too much? A foolish assumption on your part Jamie.

As per sending all of our Chinook to China, as far as I am concerned a percentage of all wild fish caught in Canadian waters should be designated for Canadians.

Us Canadians are used to paying to much for beef and pork, why should fish be any different?
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Not foolish at all..
You are talking about FOOD, your comparing commercial caught fish with the cost of a trip.

The 7 G is for the trip.. The fish is the bonus.

As to wild Coho and Chinook. I can find it here.. Why can't you?
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Not foolish at all..
You are talking about FOOD, your comparing commercial caught fish with the cost of a trip.

The 7 G is for the trip.. The fish is the bonus.

As to wild Coho and Chinook. I can find it here.. Why can't you?
Where do you find Wild Chinook Salmon?
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Not foolish at all..
You are talking about FOOD, your comparing commercial caught fish with the cost of a trip.

The 7 G is for the trip.. The fish is the bonus.

As to wild Coho and Chinook. I can find it here.. Why can't you?
Jamie still wondering where you buy you're Fresh, Wild Chinook Salmon or were you just trolling me?

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Old 06-20-2017, 04:36 PM
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Jamie still wondering where you buy you're Fresh, Wild Chinook Salmon or were you just trolling me?
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Where do you find Wild Chinook Salmon?
Boyds here in Calgary will have it.. Not sure if you would find such a expensive product at Walmart......................

I would imagine every fish shop in Calgary will have it as well.. Thing is.. It's probably around $20/KG
I don't need to troll you, you do a great job of that yourself.
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Once agin I ask .. If I can find it SOOOOOO easy, why can't you?
or were you just trolling everyone?
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Boyds here in Calgary will have it.. Not sure if you would find such a expensive product at Walmart......................

I would imagine every fish shop in Calgary will have it as well.. Thing is.. It's probably around $20/KG
I don't need to troll you, you do a great job of that yourself.
:s Ha_shakeshout:

Once agin I ask .. If I can find it SOOOOOO easy, why can't you?
or were you just trolling everyone?
Whatever, for a guy that does not know how much time I spend on the west coast fishing, or where I stay or who I hire or what type of fishing I do, you sure do know a lot about how much I spend.

Unlike you I can afford to fish, without going to the store and trust me it's way more fun and fresher. The store bought Chinook you eat has been out of the ocean for at least 14 days. Bon Appetite! lol
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:52 PM
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Whatever, for a guy that does not know how much time I spend on the west coast fishing, or where I stay or who I hire or what type of fishing I do, you sure do know a lot about how much I spend.

Unlike you I can afford to fish, without going to the store and trust me it's way more fun and fresher. The store bought Chinook you eat has been out of the ocean for at least 14 days. Bon Appetite! lol
Thats not the point.... You said we couldn't get fresh Chinook in Canada

"Here is another interesting fact, all the wild Chinook and Cohos that are commercially caught are shipped directly to China. Apparently Canadians don't deserve them"

As I just showed you.... You are full of SHYT.
You opened your mouth.. You were caught spreading out right lies.. Just own it will you. So now who is the troll?
BTW.. I really don't need to be educated on how a fresh Chinook can taste.
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Thats not the point.... You said we couldn't get fresh Chinook in Canada

"Here is another interesting fact, all the wild Chinook and Cohos that are commercially caught are shipped directly to China. Apparently Canadians don't deserve them"

As I just showed you.... You are full of SHYT.
You opened your mouth.. You were caught spreading out right lies.. Just own it will you. So now who is the troll?
BTW.. I really don't need to be educated on how a fresh Chinook can taste.
Yawn..................................

When you buy you're 14 to 20 day old fish make sure to scrape the slime off the top before you cook it, it's bacteria and not good for you. Good Night troll!
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Yawn..................................

When you buy you're 14 to 20 day old fish make sure to scrape the slime off the top before you cook it, it's bacteria and not good for you. Good Night troll!
Who ever said I buy anything? But once again, you were all upset when you thought you couldn't purchase something here... Then the truth comes out and all of a sudden its garbage...
Jesus man, get your story and TROLL straight...
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Who ever said I buy anything? But once again, you were all upset when you thought you couldn't purchase something here... Then the truth comes out and all of a sudden its garbage...
Jesus man, get your story and TROLL straight...
You did, read your own post above. By the way the slime you eat off of the fish you buy at Boyds in Calgary maybe affecting you're memory!
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You did, read your own post above. By the way the slime you eat off of the fish you buy at Boyds in Calgary maybe affecting you're memory!
No I didn't... I said I can find it here.. I have never bought a Salmon in my life. And that includes canned... But way to try and disguise the fact you don't know shyt...
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Boyds here in Calgary will have it.. Not sure if you would find such a expensive product at Walmart......................

I would imagine every fish shop in Calgary will have it as well.. Thing is.. It's probably around $20/KG
I don't need to troll you, you do a great job of that yourself.
:s Ha_shakeshout:

Once agin I ask .. If I can find it SOOOOOO easy, why can't you?
or were you just trolling everyone?
Gawd you are boring!

I'll bet you never fished the Skeena River.

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Gawd you are boring!

I'll bet you never fished the Skeena River.
Lol. I don't think Jamie needs to fish the skeena.
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:06 AM
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I don't buy fish but I see them sell "fresh" Chinook at Costco every once in a while, could come from AK tho too, along with th king crab legs they sell there as well. There'll be some fish monger standing there and the fish I see all in this fancy glass box, then you don't see him for months. Most likely th "fresh" in Alberta means freshly thawed.







Skeena... my speculation is that they are speculating too much on the run size and they don't know. So they will start with the full closure, the poor "white guys" (like me, even tho I've never got a sunburn in my life) miss the best part of the Chinook season and as th numbers of sockeye show up, the likelihood of a sport season on the sockeye increases, probably one fish to start.

Why is it that our Americans don't ever have to put up with salmon closures so the natives can kill everything? I think the sport and commercial people need to take the government to court and defeat this native commercial harvest that is under the guise of personal, ceremonial, and or religious purpose harvest and get it to a true personal, LIMITED/REGULATED native harvest whereby they allow the natives a reasonable, personal, regulated harvest, and closely monitored/policed/enforced.

Ideally I would like to see equality for all Canadians, but that is not possible in this great land, so at least get this wildlife consumption abuse problem dealt with ASAP. There's only one way to do it, and it would take $$$$ and the courts to do it. Surely our law isn't that lame that it couldn't be done?

Surely we could raise millions of $$$$ to see this through and get it done?
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I see the same thing happening with the west coast wild salmon fishery that happened to the wild Atlantic Salmon fishery, which was decimated years ago by commercial fishing.

We Canadians can come home with a couple of Chinook while the commercial fishermen ship tones overseas to feed the Asian market. The chart below indicates the harvest drop from 1990 to 2015. Pathetic!

Read this: http://vancouversun.com/news/local-n...cs-iconic-fish


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Skeena... my speculation is that they are speculating too much on the run size and they don't know. So they will start with the full closure, the poor "white guys" (like me, even tho I've never got a sunburn in my life) miss the best part of the Chinook season and as th numbers of sockeye show up, the likelihood of a sport season on the sockeye increases, probably one fish to start.

Why is it that our Americans don't ever have to put up with salmon closures so the natives can kill everything? I think the sport and commercial people need to take the government to court and defeat this native commercial harvest that is under the guise of personal, ceremonial, and or religious purpose harvest and get it to a true personal, LIMITED/REGULATED native harvest whereby they allow the natives a reasonable, personal, regulated harvest, and closely monitored/policed/enforced.

Ideally I would like to see equality for all Canadians, but that is not possible in this great land, so at least get this wildlife consumption abuse problem dealt with ASAP. There's only one way to do it, and it would take $$$$ and the courts to do it. Surely our law isn't that lame that it couldn't be done?

Surely we could raise millions of $$$$ to see this through and get it done?
NO!!! STOP making sense!

I wouldn't be so quick to praise the US. This is a global problem far beyond a Canada only problem:

http://russgeorge.net/2017/03/22/ala...salmon-season/

http://juneauempire.com/local/2017-0...mergency-order

I know this is Chinook and not Sockeye but AK just happens to have the location for amazing runs that beat many of all of the runs here of Sockeye. I do agree, they really manage their counts. And, it still doesn't change the fact that the playing field in Canada should be leveled across all "takers". That is a place to start but the issue is not limited to Canada for sure.
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And just in case someone is thinking "yeah, well that is AK under Sarah P..."
Our Southern US neighbors appear to fare no better this year:

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/ore...are_set_f.html

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