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03-07-2016, 05:33 PM
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More moving parts and the fact that it's purpose is to cheat poor tolerances.
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So what your saying is that companies like Remington should really be using a floating bolt head.
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03-07-2016, 06:49 PM
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So what your saying is that companies like Remington should really be using a floating bolt head.
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Beat it nerd
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03-07-2016, 07:42 PM
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Tolerances still matter with a floating bolt head. If all those surfaces aren't parallel it's bad. It just makes manufacturing really easy when you only have one bolt body.
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03-07-2016, 08:46 PM
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Awww. That's not not nice.
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03-08-2016, 08:36 AM
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Don't forget that Sauer has now entered that $1000-ish class with the model 100 (that uses M700 mounts) and Tikka has 'added value' with the similarly priced T3x.
The world is awash with affordable polymer detach mag, generic push feed actions with trigger saftey's that have decent adjustable triggers and plastic stocks (or basic walnut/beech for a couple hundred more). Its got to be a c market driven largely by advertising, endorsements or focusing on inconsequential price differences, as opposed to difference in rifle quality, which across these common makes/models has got to be getting close to identical (Hotellings Law?)
I would love to see the Bergara wood stocks.
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03-09-2016, 01:16 PM
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03-09-2016, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for the real world review. Thoughts on the bolt now that you have handled one?
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03-09-2016, 02:38 PM
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It feels sloppy to me, lots of play between the bolt body and race way.
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03-09-2016, 03:51 PM
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There's a good write-up on them in the latest American Rifleman, .....explains why they went the way they did on some parts.
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The above pictures were taken for me by a kind fellow AO member. Thought others may be interested.
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03-09-2016, 04:53 PM
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I guess I would do well to read the thread before posting
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08-14-2018, 10:39 AM
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This is an old thread, but I'm just curious is anyone on here has shot one of these yet? I'm mulling around the purchase of a bolt action, and I'll admit, based entirely on looks, this caught my eye.
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08-14-2018, 11:12 AM
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Seen them at neerlandia Co-op
Brent said they shoot half moa to a 1000
Pretty good deal
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08-14-2018, 11:25 AM
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Seen them at neerlandia Co-op
Brent said they shoot half moa to a 1000
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Did Brent mention how many Bergara rifles he has fired to 1000 yards?
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I have three buddy's that own them 1 B14 and 2 hmr. All three are chambered in 6.5 creed. all shoot amazingly tight groups at 100 yds. Only had the privilege of shooting one past 100 400yd 5 shot groups were just over an inch off the bench. I was impressed to say the least. Theres a bergara FB page full of all the pros and cons. Too spendy for my wallet but the ones I have shot were impressive rifles. Fit and finish was only so-so but man they sure shoot
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08-17-2018, 09:05 AM
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They say they may be bringing out lefties in 2010. They said the same thing in 04 about 06. Until they actually do it I have no interest. If they do, I will try one for sure.
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08-18-2018, 12:17 PM
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Bought one in 308. For the price you can buy a lot less expensive rifle that will shoot just as good or better. For the price, they are just not worth it. Sorry, just my opinion
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11-08-2018, 05:38 PM
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Does any dealer in Alberta have a HMR or a HMR Pro in stock?
I got out of hunting 10 years ago... sold everything! Now my 9 year old says he wants to take up shooting and hunting.
I’d like to pick up a Bergara and see how it feels.
I was always a Sako guy before
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If your in Edmonton P&d had some hmr
Neerlandia told me they could get the pros within a week
I picked one up 2 weeks ago
Man can they shoot
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Here’s a pic
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11-09-2018, 08:30 AM
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Thx a lot. I’m in Red Deer I’ll drive up and take a look.
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Bergara
Bass pro in Calgary also has them in 6.5.
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11-09-2018, 10:56 AM
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Bass pro in Calgary also has them in 6.5.
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Thx, having never shot a 6.5 I don’t know but I feel like it might be too much for a first gun?
I keep flipping in my head back to a 257 Weatherby or maybe a 25:06?
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A 6.5cm wint be more than either of the two you listed. But the options for the factory ammo at decent prices will give the 6.5 an advantage in my opinion. A 6.5 has less recoil than the 308's and that's kind of a break point for some of the people that I've let shoot my rifles. Obviously there are a few other factors involved.
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A 6.5cm wint be more than either of the two you listed. But the options for the factory ammo at decent prices will give the 6.5 an advantage in my opinion. A 6.5 has less recoil than the 308's and that's kind of a break point for some of the people that I've let shoot my rifles. Obviously there are a few other factors involved.
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Thx, I’m playing catch up with all the new toys on the market now.
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I bought a few different boxes of hornady ammo since it’s so cheap and one obviously is a winner
3 shots on that target to the right
Highest one was the first out of the barrel
Then I moved it down and a 3 shot group
Adjusted to the left and voila .13” group
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A buddy has one. Its a fantastic rifle, much nicer than a Remington in my opinion.
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11-09-2018, 07:55 PM
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I bought a few different boxes of hornady ammo since it’s so cheap and one obviously is a winner
3 shots on that target to the right
Highest one was the first out of the barrel
Then I moved it down and a 3 shot group
Adjusted to the left and voila .13” group
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Is your rifle in 6.5CM or something else Mark?
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Is your rifle in 6.5CM or something else Mark?
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It’s a creedmoor
I got it for my nephew. Figure it would be a good rifle for him to learn with since recoil is next to zero. Mostly due to the weight of the rifle
The fit and finish of the rifle is very nice
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