fishing for walleye with beef heart??

caddisman · #1 02-05-2008, 01:54 PM

I have herd this story a few times now from people in Manitoba that they jig for walleye using a strip of beef heart like you would use a leech.
Has anyone here in and around Calgary tried this method. I keep looking at the beef heart when I am in Stupidstore. I do not target walleye enough to feel confident trying this out because maybe there were not any walleye in the area to begin with. I rarely catch walleye when I am ice fishing.

Caddisman

Piker · #2 02-05-2008, 02:34 PM

In the old days all we used for walleyes was a yellow jig with some freezer burnt meat usually deer on it. It worked great but I guess the fish are smarter now.

CNP · #3 02-05-2008, 02:47 PM

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I guess the fish are smarter now

You're saying they can tell between venison and beef

gramps73 · #4 02-05-2008, 03:34 PM

Piker
The old yellow jig head and deer heart still going strong. Caught lots this summer using the same old,,,
Gramps

Calloway99 · #5 02-05-2008, 04:49 PM

If you cut the beef heart into the right size strips, it will have the same action in the water that a leech would.
Don't use the freezer burnt meat, you need to use fresh or freshly thawed meat so that it is still soft and pliable, like a leech.

Sean

schimmel · #6 02-05-2008, 04:53 PM

I use to use liver all the time caught hundreds of walleye with liver. Its tough & stays on really well. Even after all the blood leeches out & the liver turns white they still keep hitting.

#7 02-05-2008, 05:55 PM

I use pork strips for pike but I usually let them dry out for about a day or two in the fridge and then I basically pickle them in WD-40

stormy · #8 02-05-2008, 06:43 PM

wd-40 ?

Lethalconnection · #9 02-05-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stormy

wd-40 ?

yeah please elaborate.

#10 02-05-2008, 07:02 PM

You guys never heard of using a bit of WD40 as an attractant?
Its a great way to attract slow pike, I spray my mariboi spinners from time
to time if the bite is slow. Those pickled pork strips are nothing new, they sell them in tons of tackle shops......the WD40 is just a personal touch, I find it gets best results in the spring. Trick is to let them dry out a bit before you soak them so it holds a little more.

I know a few guides in Northern Ontario who spread Preperation H on their baits aswell (that sounded not so good

)...It has some super oils in it that fish love.

Dont crucify me if its against the regs here, I havent exactly read up since I moved and havent yet fished so no harm done

I plan to do so and am innocent until proven guilty and/or if I just get caught (joking, I really am)

Also, dont get on me about it polluting water.
The boats running around dump more pollutants in the water then my puny little maribou inline spinners.......(by puny I mean 13"

)

Well that should cover my arse for the next few days.

Izumi · #11 02-05-2008, 07:23 PM

Beef heart works. Pike eat it too (what don't pike eat?).

Kyle · #12 02-05-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleM

my puny little maribou inline spinners.......(by puny I mean 13"

)

mmmmmm.....giant shumway flasher

Izumi · #13 02-05-2008, 08:00 PM

"Also, dont get on me about it polluting water.
The boats running around dump more pollutants in the water then my puny little maribou inline spinners."

Do the boats feed it to the fish? I have heard of this and it sounds like a bad idea.

Piker · #14 02-05-2008, 08:13 PM

We had one lake in Sask. Antelope it was called that we had better results with deer meat than ones that used beef. Probably just luck or in the rite place at the rite time

Jamie · #15 02-05-2008, 08:54 PM

I have heard tell of the WD40 trick being used out on the west coast.

Jamie

#16 02-05-2008, 09:31 PM

Care to mention why this is a bad idea Izumi?

It does not harm the fish and its also non-carcinogenic.
Cant say the same for a lot of the things we dump into the water......
Hell, I cant say the same for half the things we eat/drink.

Also, I try not to feed my 40 dollar baits to the fish on a regular basis.

I can count 100 things that harm the water, WD40 aint one of em.

Izumi · #17 02-05-2008, 09:42 PM

I circled 'why' for you in red.

#18 02-05-2008, 09:53 PM

Yep, I wouldnt suggest drinking that bottle if I were you.

Thats a pretty poor reason not to spray a bit on your bait.
Its an insoluble product and its considered to be easily biodegradable.

Its worse for you to take a leak in the lake then use this.

If you have any more reasons Id like to hear them though.

crudedude · #19 02-05-2008, 10:01 PM

Hi there I work for a large oil/gas company and a few years ago we received a safety alert on the harmful effects of using this product and it was banned by all who worked for this company as a safety precaution. It makes you

Izumi · #20 02-05-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleM

Yep, I wouldnt suggest drinking that bottle if I were you.

Thats a pretty poor reason not to spray a bit on your bait.
Its an insoluble product and its considered to be easily biodegradable.

Its worse for you to take a leak in the lake then use this.

If you have any more reasons Id like to hear them though.

Skull and Crossbones = POISON
Octagon = High

I believe it is a poor choice to use any type of highly poisonous substance as bait.

I understand that WD-40 poses virtually no threat to the environment, as it's ingredients are highly volatile. We are talking oral ingestion, and that's different.

#21 02-05-2008, 10:11 PM

The harmful ingredients are:

Stoddard solvent
Petroleum base oil
Carbon Dioxide

I honestly dont care if a couple of you guys think its bad or not.
Its one of the things I will continue to do to a few of my baits.
This isnt the first time its been debated and sure wont be the last!

Oral ingestion...But its ok to slam a hook into its mouth?

If you dont agree, dont spray your baits with it!

sirmike68 · #22 02-05-2008, 10:23 PM

Unbelievable!

Pigshanks · #23 02-06-2008, 08:03 AM

Sounds like he's eaten one too many fish he's caught with WD-40.

BUD · #24 02-06-2008, 08:34 AM

Dont knock it till ya try it , l use it all the time , try it , you,ll like it.
As far as hurtin the fish , Velveeta cheese and Corn do more harm cause they cant digest it, caught one so bloated with cheese one time l had to put it down , haaaaaaaaa.

lippy · #25 02-09-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleM

You guys never heard of using a bit of WD40 as an attractant?
Its a great way to attract slow pike, I spray my mariboi spinners from time
to time if the bite is slow. Those pickled pork strips are nothing new, they sell them in tons of tackle shops......the WD40 is just a personal touch, I find it gets best results in the spring. Trick is to let them dry out a bit before you soak them so it holds a little more.

I know a few guides in Northern Ontario who spread Preperation H on their baits aswell (that sounded not so good

)...It has some super oils in it that fish love.

Dont crucify me if its against the regs here, I havent exactly read up since I moved and havent yet fished so no harm done

I plan to do so and am innocent until proven guilty and/or if I just get caught (joking, I really am)

Also, dont get on me about it polluting water.
The boats running around dump more pollutants in the water then my puny little maribou inline spinners.......(by puny I mean 13"

)

Well that should cover my arse for the next few days.

I heard some rumours (read :bulls**t) that WD-40 is made from a deriviative of whale blubber oil and that is why it attracts fish. Is that maybe why it is called WD? Anyway some do use it on the west coast and swear that it works...I know one thing it keeps the hooks from rusting in the salt water

wharde · #26 02-10-2008, 11:35 AM

I have used beef heart for years in Saskatchewan and it works great for all species of fish. Buy a heart, cut it up into small pieces and freeze in portions big enough for an outing. It works great for trolling as it will stay on your hook. Also a neat trick is to dab a little iodine on it to keep it looking red.

lilsundance · #27 02-10-2008, 12:40 PM

wd = water displacement. 40 = the 40th try at getting it right. saw it on w5

Unregistered user · #28 02-11-2008, 05:12 PM

Gary Cooper of "Nice Fish" and other TV shows was doing a lecture at a sportsmen show about 15 years ago and stated that WD40 contained enough shrimp-oil that fish were attracted to it.

Pigshanks · #29 02-11-2008, 09:23 PM

For the love of god. If you are going to use the stuff for fishing, at least have the f*****g brains to know what it is made out of.

NO SHRIMP OIL
NO FISH OIL.

It is made with

STODDARD SOLVENT
PETROLEUM BASE OIL
CARBON DIOXIDE.

Here is the link to the MSDS for WD-40.

http://www.wd40.com/Brands/pdfs/msds....canada.eg.pdf

Read up on it and if you still think it is ok to use as a fish attractant then email the closes SRD office and ask them what their take on it is.

http://www.srd.gov.ab.ca/fishwildlif...%20webview.pdf

#30 02-11-2008, 11:26 PM

Yep, if you had read the entire post you would have realized that
I already posted that. If you had read what you posted youd also
realize that the ingredients you listed are only ingredients that are hazardous........its not entirely made of just that.

But thanks for jumping all over it.

Im guessing that you dont own a boat?
If you did, it would be a tad hypocritical to jump all over this.

Also, WD40 hasnt changed its recipe for a long long time.....infact
I dont believe its ever been changed....I agree that its not made with those oils.

This is all quite comical to me......drive a boat that pollutes the water, lose baits that are coated and made of toxic chemicals and sometimes heavy metals, take a leak off the side of the boat, hook a fish anywhere in the mouth, dont kill it right away ( please see http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=10461

)

But get on someones case for using WD40