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Old 06-19-2017, 06:24 AM
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A great friend has given me a funky little Mannlicher rifle in 8x56. I need a box of ammo to complete my good luck ... where could I find this ??? Been tough here in Lethbridge looking ... Thanks ..
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:05 AM
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You can try on-line sites like www.theammosource.com (aka SFRC) and tradeexcanada.com - both have 8mm Mauser ammunition listed.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:50 AM
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Bingo ... $45 plus UPS shipping ... Thank you ...
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:53 PM
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Things Military in Calgary might have some as well.

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Old 06-19-2017, 05:23 PM
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The brass if it's boxer to reload.....Harold
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:38 PM
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Be careful
8x56 mannlicher is not 8mm Mauser (8x57)
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:16 AM
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Thanks for the concern and PM... I know that there is a difference ... I would have easily found the 8x57 in this one horse town ...

Cheers !
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:35 PM
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Is this the 8x56mm M-S or 8x56mmR?
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:12 PM
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The rifle is a 1908 Mannlicher Schoenauer ... the calibre is 8x56 mm. That is how it is listed ...
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:18 PM
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I doubt if it is the 'R' version ...
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:03 PM
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You'll probably need the proper clips to go with it.

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Old 06-20-2017, 03:47 PM
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You'll probably need the proper clips to go with it.

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The Greek Mannlicher uses clips the 1908 uses loose Ammo with an internal magazine with a rotary lifter
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:44 PM
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There is an 8 x 56 R version, kinda sorta. I have a set of RCBS 8 x 54 Danish Krag Dies, and not showing that much wear surprisingly. I believe they are quite close to the 8 x 56 we are discussing. D.H.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:13 AM
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Of the gun and someone will ID it for you. Brass for 8x56R is available by PRIVI /Serbia and Hornady .8x56R can also be made from the Soviet 7.62x54R.8x56 MS can be made from 8x57 brass.The Steyr 95 straight pull bolt was used by Austria/Hungary and requires en-blockclips.The 8x56 MS has a spool magazine and most likely the classic butter knife bolt handle.Nazi marked /Austrian military ball shows up at gunshows periodically 8x56R.Let's see what you got first.....Harold
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:54 PM
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Spool magazine and butter knife handle ..
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:12 PM
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Data and brass resizing tips? Ken Waters Pet Loads.......Harold
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:54 PM
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Thank you. I shall check it out ... would, if I had my druthers, prefer a box of loaded ammunition. Might have to go the reloading route, however ..
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:36 PM
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An amigo is bringing me a set of dies and 40 brass this coming Friday ... what a good guy ,,,
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:47 AM
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Might wanna check out Trade Ex. They usually got every caliber of ammo out there. And they sometimes have deals on shipping.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:09 AM
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I now have the dies and reformed brass (35 Whelen) ... got it primed this morning and will decide on the powder for the bullets that I also have .. 170 grain (323) Barnes and a partial box of 220 grain Hornadys

Trade Ex does not carry 8 MM Mannlicher loaded ammo ,,, thanks ...
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:35 AM
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Ken Waters ........Pet Loads 170gr Speer OAL 2.97"
W748/44gr/2256fps 46gr/2391fps MAX
W760/48gr/2218fps 49gr/2260fps MAX
VVN150/44gr/2270fps 45.5gr/2378fps MAX
VVN135/42gr/2300fps 43.5gr/2404fps MAX
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:52 AM
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I bought all of mine from various gun shows and it came on the original clips in the boxes.

A few years ago, to save the original ammo, I bought the dies, brass, and bullets from TradeEx Canada and started loading for my long rifle.
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:10 PM
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I reloaded ten brass with 43grains of 4064. Fired one shot at 25 yard target this morning . Dead on. Primer was sticking out of primer pocket???
I do not think this was because of high pressure as my information was 46 grains being maximum .. ?? The shell was easy to extract ...

Hmmm...
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:11 PM
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180 grain Barnes ...
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:33 PM
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44 grains and 44.5 grains ... primer was no longer protruding .. case was separating ... Now I am going to get a cast of chamber ... maybe the calibre is not what it is supposed to be ??? Also going to phone the far away dude that gave me the little rifle and do a bit of asking ???
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:06 PM
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The fired cases.........that should narrow it down unless it has excessive headspace to start with? Harold
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:25 AM
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I had the chamber cast done and it was 8x56 as I had assumed .. since my last posting I had done some shooting down at the range and now am getting case separations ... The gunsmith has my rifle and all of my reloading accessories and will try to figure out the problem ... I am about ready to turn that rifle into a lamp .. or to save myself further aggravation I just might throw it into the Old Man River and let it sleep with the fishes ...
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:13 PM
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Of the gun and someone will ID it for you. Brass for 8x56R is available by PRIVI /Serbia and Hornady .8x56R can also be made from the Soviet 7.62x54R.8x56 MS can be made from 8x57 brass.The Steyr 95 straight pull bolt was used by Austria/Hungary and requires en-blockclips.The 8x56 MS has a spool magazine and most likely the classic butter knife bolt handle.Nazi marked /Austrian military ball shows up at gunshows periodically 8x56R.Let's see what you got first.....Harold
8X56 MS cannot be made from 8X57! Different body diameter!
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