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Old 12-28-2014, 01:42 PM
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Ok been following this thread and my original question still stands. Is it to do with the right to carry or a reason to carry. Many scenarios have been covered but the only one that makes sense to me is the wilderness carry. I can see wanting to protect yourself in the bush no problem. Carrying in public places does not. There is no reason to carry a side arm when you go about your routine daily business.
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:13 PM
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Ok been following this thread and my original question still stands. Is it to do with the right to carry or a reason to carry. Many scenarios have been covered but the only one that makes sense to me is the wilderness carry. I can see wanting to protect yourself in the bush no problem. Carrying in public places does not. There is no reason to carry a side arm when you go about your routine daily business.
I say right to carry as long as some criteria are met. What would be the reason not to carry going about your daily business?
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:15 PM
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I say right to carry as long as some criteria are met. What would be the reason not to carry going about your daily business?
"It's not Canadian" is one argument I've heard.
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As much as I would love to take my Ruger Mk11 or my Colt 45 ACP out for a sunday stroll, I doubt that this will ever happen, unless I move to Texas.
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I say right to carry as long as some criteria are met. What would be the reason not to carry going about your daily business?
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:26 PM
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I say right to carry as long as some criteria are met. What would be the reason not to carry going about your daily business?
Again a personal opinion as I do not fear for my life and see no reason to carry a sidearm to protect myself or my family. Now if your talking the right to carry is another matter. I have already stated my belief that having a large part of society carry side arms does not make me feel safe, although my opinion, i have the right to not want or appose the right to carry.
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:35 PM
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Same old arguments from the same people.

This is Canada, where you do not have a right to own a firearm.
This is Canada, where you are given certain privileges and firearms ownership is one of them.
This is Canada, where the average person does not know their neighbor anymore and fears them.

CCW for the average person is a pipe dream, not worth arguing about.
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:46 PM
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Same old arguments from the same people.

This is Canada, where you do not have a right to own a firearm.
This is Canada, where you are given certain privileges and firearms ownership is one of them.
This is Canada, where the average person does not know their neighbor anymore and fears them.

CCW for the average person is a pipe dream, not worth arguing about.
Ok you do have the right to own a firearm although there is a restriction(I agree with the restriction, my personal belief).

There are several countries that allow you to own, fire, carry whatever you want. A lot of those countries you would not want to live in because the quality of life sucks and are very dangerous to be there. so given the quality of life and the freedoms you do have in Canada is not so bad. To quote an employee that works for me from India, "you could have all the money in the world but get in an accident on the highway and be hurt badly chances are you will die". The laws here do protect you and the quality of life provided by your government makes it a pretty good place to live. appreciate it.
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:50 PM
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Ok you do have the right to own a firearm although there is a restriction(I agree with the restriction, my personal belief).

There are several countries that allow you to own, fire, carry whatever you want. A lot of those countries you would not want to live in because the quality of life sucks and are very dangerous to be there. so given the quality of life and the freedoms you do have in Canada is not so bad. To quote an employee that works for me from India, "you could have all the money in the world but get in an accident on the highway and be hurt badly chances are you will die". The laws here do protect you and the quality of life provided by your government makes it a pretty good place to live. appreciate it.
Show me where there is a right to own a firearm in Canada and I will retract my statements.

This isn't about any other country, this is Canada we live in.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:12 PM
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Show me where there is a right to own a firearm in Canada and I will retract my statements.

This isn't about any other country, this is Canada we live in.
So your telling me if I want to buy a firearm for hunting and get my appropriate certification that i cannot own said firearm. not following you???????

So you live in Canada, you don't like the rules move were the rules meet your requirements. Just be careful cause your family is now in real danger.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:00 PM
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Ok you do have the right to own a firearm although there is a restriction(I agree with the restriction, my personal belief).

There are several countries that allow you to own, fire, carry whatever you want. A lot of those countries you would not want to live in because the quality of life sucks and are very dangerous to be there. so given the quality of life and the freedoms you do have in Canada is not so bad. To quote an employee that works for me from India, "you could have all the money in the world but get in an accident on the highway and be hurt badly chances are you will die". The laws here do protect you and the quality of life provided by your government makes it a pretty good place to live. appreciate it.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:06 PM
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I wish some of the naysayers' daughters or wives joined into this little debate about 'what the heck do you need to carry a handgun for?'

Women are routinely assaulted and raped on university campuses.
They should have an option other than screaming or blowing a rape whistle.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:09 PM
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your opinion, still say you have a quality of life here and hey you can disagree with what others say and disagree with the people in charge and still getup in the morning and eat you cornflakes and head out to fish, hunt, work or just go do what you want as long as you follow the rules. be thankful for what you have.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:30 PM
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Again a personal opinion as I do not fear for my life and see no reason to carry a sidearm to protect myself or my family. Now if your talking the right to carry is another matter. I have already stated my belief that having a large part of society carry side arms does not make me feel safe, although my opinion, i have the right to not want or appose the right to carry.
So it would make you feel unsafe?
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:33 PM
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So it would make you feel unsafe?
unsafe as per what?
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:41 PM
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unsafe as per what?
You stated that a segment of society carrying handguns does not make you feel safe.

Does that mean you would feel it was unsafe to do what you do now if that segment was carrying handguns?
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:48 PM
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You stated that a segment of society carrying handguns does not make you feel safe.

Does that mean you would feel it was unsafe to do what you do now if that segment was carrying handguns?
First you say a segment well if legalized it won't be a segment it will be whoever can qualify for carry, yes that makes me nerves. Maybe you see it as responsible outdoors men or hunters as perhaps yourself will be carrying. Not so anyone who can pass the certification will be able to carry. No thanks.
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