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Old 02-01-2023, 08:04 PM
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What’s everyone doing with their deer if it tests positive. One of mine was, but I just got results and deer has already gone through the butcher shop anis now sausage. Have already eaten some.
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:03 PM
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My venison stays triple wrapped in the freezer till I get the test results back ,every year.I make my own sausage but even that is enough cost to warrant waiting rather than throwing good after bad.
I got my first positive this year on an Antlerless Mule, and although there has been no recorded cases of it crossing over to humans in the 50 years it's been known, in the BFI bin all of it went.
Sigh.....
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:19 PM
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I have to ask, what’s the point of getting it tested if people are just running deer to the butcher without having results? Couldn’t there be contamination at that particular butcher shop now?

Wouldn’t it make sense to have to show proof that the animal is CWD free before being able to have it butchered at a butcher shop?

I have never sent one in for testing so these are just questions that come to my mind when reading threads like this one…
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:27 PM
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When the general public finds out about CWD. Butchers shops won’t be allowed to process wild game where they handle inspected meat.
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Old 02-06-2023, 01:45 PM
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When the general public finds out about CWD. Butchers shops won’t be allowed to process wild game where they handle inspected meat.
Unlikely,
The general public is already starting to become aware of CWD.

Secondly, The Meat Inspection Regulations already deal with processing wild game and inspected meat. The Regulations require facilities to have separation in production as well as storage and labeling of wild game and inspected meat products. Whether or not the public health food act does or not is a different matter, but it should.

Whether the butcher shops follow that rule or not is anyone's guess, but if something does happen, those shops will have to prove that they were indeed following those requirements or not.
The gov't will just hold their hands up and say "It was in the Regs, they were supposed to follow the rules, that's what they agreed to when they were given their license to operate.

Thirdly, with CWD becoming a bigger issue, the shops should preemptively start controlling what is coming into the shop on their own, The gov't should not need to tell them to do it as the writing is already on the wall, and the experts have already shown that it's becoming a bigger risk.

I don't hunt in CDW zones because that's not where my areas are. Would I eat an animal with a positive test result? I'm not sure, I've gone back and forth on this in my head. I guess it would all come down to what the carcass looked like when I cleaned it up. Skinny and weak, with little muscling or shaggy, probably not. If it had good muscling, proper looking internal anatomy, probably.

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Old 02-06-2023, 03:35 PM
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Unlikely,
The general public is already starting to become aware of CWD.

Secondly, The Meat Inspection Regulations already deal with processing wild game and inspected meat. The Regulations require facilities to have separation in production as well as storage and labeling of wild game and inspected meat products. Whether or not the public health food act does or not is a different matter, but it should.

Whether the butcher shops follow that rule or not is anyone's guess, but if something does happen, those shops will have to prove that they were indeed following those requirements or not.
The gov't will just hold their hands up and say "It was in the Regs, they were supposed to follow the rules, that's what they agreed to when they were given their license to operate.

Thirdly, with CWD becoming a bigger issue, the shops should preemptively start controlling what is coming into the shop on their own, The gov't should not need to tell them to do it as the writing is already on the wall, and the experts have already shown that it's becoming a bigger risk.

I don't hunt in CDW zones because that's not where my areas are. Would I eat an animal with a positive test result? I'm not sure, I've gone back and forth on this in my head. I guess it would all come down to what the carcass looked like when I cleaned it up. Skinny and weak, with little muscling or shaggy, probably not. If it had good muscling, proper looking internal anatomy, probably.

If you went and told the customers that are spending $100 on ribeyes that in the back there is a bunch of gut shot mule deer does hanging. From consort, probably have CWD. Damn rights there would be some reaction to that.
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:27 PM
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I have never tested deer nor care to. One chimp in a million tests I will roll with my chances.

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Old 02-02-2023, 10:44 AM
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From what I've read, killing the Prions is very very difficult and time consuming. So when a CWD deer goes through a butcher, isn't everything going to be technically contaminated? How many deer go through the butchers that aren't tested and are POSITIVE?

Seems like you can do your best to avoid CWD, but if you hunt and don't test your animals every time, or if you ever take your meat to a wild game butcher, you are at risk, no matter how small that risk is.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:54 AM
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I put it in the Green bin and it goes to the dump as per government website. I also test all the animals whether they are in cwd zone or not.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:57 AM
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I would eat it and enjoy it.

Unless the butcher you go to totally sterilizes and cleans out his entire operation between each animal, chances are you have come into contact with CWD many times over.

We always butcher our own and never make any cuts with the bone in.
Never tested a deer and I've eaten a lot from CWD zones. Still standing.
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Old 02-02-2023, 03:14 PM
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I have never tested deer nor care to. One chimp in a million tests I will roll with my chances.

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Old 02-02-2023, 05:07 PM
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I won’t knowingly eat a positive one or feed it to friends or family. Had 3 so far.

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Old 02-02-2023, 05:25 PM
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Someone has to be the first person to contract it. Right? Maybe?
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Old 02-02-2023, 05:43 PM
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We do up own wild game , have got deer tested when required never had a failed test
I have no problem eating deer or elk or moose or bear that are not tested been doing it for 50 some years
I never wait for the test we start eating as soon as we get the animals
I believe it was probably always in deer to start with, natures way of getting rid of overcrowding in the wild
Maybe to government meet Is just trying to get you to not eat wild meat so They can sell you there juiced up meat so they can further control what you eat and do - just saying
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Old 02-02-2023, 08:13 PM
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Someone has to be the first person to contract it. Right? Maybe?
Exactly! Zombie Apocalypse needs to start some how.
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Old 02-02-2023, 10:45 PM
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Someone has to be the first person to contract it. Right? Maybe?
Or not....
Why does there have to be a first?

I'd bet money thousands of infected animals have been eaten. Still no evidence of even one cross over.
Sounds pretty safe to me.
Lots of stuff affects animals but doesn't cross to humans.

Now a sickly, unhealthy deer I would never eat, no matter what it had.
But then I wouldn't shoot it in the first place, so not a concern.
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Old 02-02-2023, 10:39 PM
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I won’t knowingly eat a positive one or feed it to friends or family. Had 3 so far.

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Old 02-02-2023, 01:12 PM
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What’s everyone doing with their deer if it tests positive. One of mine was, but I just got results and deer has already gone through the butcher shop anis now sausage. Have already eaten some.
Yikes.
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Old 02-02-2023, 01:33 PM
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For the people who got test results back positive and will not eat it, give it away! Why let it go to waste. Note I do not test mine.
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Old 02-02-2023, 02:06 PM
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Yikes.
CWD is not that new, we have eating deer with it for decades
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Old 02-02-2023, 02:18 PM
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CWD is not that new, we have eating deer with it for decades
Yep and anyone using a wild game butcher shop has eaten meat tainted with it 100%.

there's no avoiding it. I know lots of people in the hot zones that don't believe it exists and run a number of animals through the local shops each year.

Never complied with mandatory testing at all.

Not possible they never had some positive animals in their freezers. I've shot 3 muley bucks in that area in the last 10 years and every single one tested positive.
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Old 02-02-2023, 03:08 PM
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Yep and anyone using a wild game butcher shop has eaten meat tainted with it 100%.

there's no avoiding it. I know lots of people in the hot zones that don't believe it exists and run a number of animals through the local shops each year.

Never complied with mandatory testing at all.

Not possible they never had some positive animals in their freezers. I've shot 3 muley bucks in that area in the last 10 years and every single one tested positive.
Yes when they completed the cull they found 97% of those infected were mule bucks.
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Old 02-02-2023, 07:24 PM
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Yep and anyone using a wild game butcher shop has eaten meat tainted with it 100%.

there's no avoiding it. I know lots of people in the hot zones that don't believe it exists and run a number of animals through the local shops each year.

Never complied with mandatory testing at all.

Not possible they never had some positive animals in their freezers. I've shot 3 muley bucks in that area in the last 10 years and every single one tested positive.

I butcher my own and get mine tested. Never had a positive and wouldn’t eat one if it was.
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