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Old 04-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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Was in the new Canadian Tire at Manning Crossing. Nice big well organised store. It has quite a bit of hunting stuff, some rifles and a large selection of ammo. Problem is the ammo is behind the counter, you can't read the boxes from the other side and they have no one there that knows anything about guns or ammo.

While I am very happy to see CT stepping into this space they are going to need to hire some people, or train some of their existing staff in how to sell these products. They don't need experts but they at least need to know what 30-06 and 270 ammo is. They also need a buyer that knows a little more about what to buy. Most of the stock was the cheapest, poorest built crap available on the market. Very little of what an average user would be looking to buy, let alone any high end stuff. I worry that lack of sales from having the wrong stock and no expertise will lead to many CTs abandoning this market prematurely.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:43 AM
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Connect with the category manager and offer your assistance/advice.

CT can try out your recommendations in a pilot store, and if the results are good, you can rope them into a high prices "product expert consulting" agreement.

Opportunity knocks ..... will you answer the door?
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:24 AM
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Every gun counter with ammo in the back should have laser pointers chained to the counter so that customers can direct the staff to what they want.
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Every gun counter with ammo in the back should have laser pointers chained to the counter so that customers can direct the staff to what they want.
Then the staff would be just like cats, they could pounce but still not get it

While I certainly like to see more stores carrying firearms and ammo I just can not justify paying their inflated prices for ammo. $100 for a flat of target loads when the same was $79 at Cabela's, $15 more for a box of .308 and $11 more for a box of 20ga when Wholesale Sports was still open. Occasionally they had some good deals on firearms but nothing that made me jump up and buy them.
I wonder if we will ever see re-branded Savage's being sold as Mastercraft (Mastercrap) firearms.
After Canadian Tire decided to drop the SKS's and generally lowered the quality of their entire product line, especially their hand tools, I no longer shop there unless I absolutely have to.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:12 PM
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If you want to see a supply of rifles, ammo, reloading equipment and reloading components go the Neerlandia Co-op North of Barrhead. Their inventory makes Cabelas and P&D look pretty sick.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:26 PM
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My local Canadian Tire brought in firearms and advertised it quite heavily, now I noticed they don't have any firearms in stock any longer.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:28 PM
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Was in the new Canadian Tire at Manning Crossing. Nice big well organised store. It has quite a bit of hunting stuff, some rifles and a large selection of ammo. Problem is the ammo is behind the counter, you can't read the boxes from the other side and they have no one there that knows anything about guns or ammo.

While I am very happy to see CT stepping into this space they are going to need to hire some people, or train some of their existing staff in how to sell these products. They don't need experts but they at least need to know what 30-06 and 270 ammo is. They also need a buyer that knows a little more about what to buy. Most of the stock was the cheapest, poorest built crap available on the market. Very little of what an average user would be looking to buy, let alone any high end stuff. I worry that lack of sales from having the wrong stock and no expertise will lead to many CTs abandoning this market prematurely.
I dunno, in our CT the cheap stuff sells about 5-1 over the $800 - $1500 guns and the over $1500 stuff sits there forever. The cheap guns seem to be the majority of sales.

What you consider the average gun user isn't average. We gun loonies on sites like this seem to forget we are but a tiny portion of the market and the main sales are cheaper guns to people who don't always care or are interested in being connoisseurs. They want something they can hunt with, their kids can abuse and not have a lot invested in it and forget about it till next season. Family budgets are pretty tight for most people and fancy firearms are not a priority for the majority of folks many of which wouldn't know the difference anyway. They just want it to go bang and kill a critter at 100 yds.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:11 PM
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Southland and mcleod CT store has been my go to shop since ws closed. Enough of everything and from what I gather they will improve. Reloading supplies, guns ammo an everything else that goes along. For average guy like me it covers pretty much anything I need. If they do not have a certain rifle in store an can get it from supplier they will happily order it in. Guys that work there seem to know what they are talking about.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:33 PM
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DV CT has signage to please be patient, as they have staff waiting on PAL’s(required to handle/sell guns and ammo)

Looks like the new franchise ownership is upping their game.
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Southland and mcleod CT store has been my go to shop since ws closed. Enough of everything and from what I gather they will improve. Reloading supplies, guns ammo an everything else that goes along. For average guy like me it covers pretty much anything I need. If they do not have a certain rifle in store an can get it from supplier they will happily order it in. Guys that work there seem to know what they are talking about.
I am glad to have them in the South for sure. Really handy to go grab some ammo or whatever. Guys are alright there, one young guy really knows his stuff. The older guys probably do as well, but don't seem interested in showing me any guns or discussing ordering.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:29 PM
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My local Canadian Tire brought in firearms and advertised it quite heavily, now I noticed they don't have any firearms in stock any longer.
According to "Stick Thrower" we don't know what we are talking about. Everything is just fine.

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Old 04-19-2018, 10:41 PM
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just bought a weatherby SA-08 from Windermere CT. Went to Leduc CT for the first time last week too and was impressed with their vast selection
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:02 AM
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According to "Stick Thrower" we don't know what we are talking about. Everything is just fine.
Perhaps pointing out the obvious is not so obvious to some. Market conditions vary from store to store and region to region. The firearm sales that one store gets in their area might pale compared to another. I'm saying its up to the franchisee's discretion rather than anything dictated by head office. I was also saying that some clerks haven't a clue what they're talking about, but they will keep talking regardless. As noted, my default CT store is expanding their firearms section with an entire aisle for reloading supplies and equipment. That's the exact opposite of the claim made, and it's got the brand spankin new inventory to contradict the inaccurate blanket claim. It's a decision made by the franchisee and not head office or other stores would simply not be expanding their firearm sections. Heck, the one year old CT immediately next door to Cabela's carries firearms. Not sure how that location is doing with them as the counter has been pretty dead most times I've traipsed through, perhaps that's the one ScottN was referencing?

Some areas are going to suck for gun sales, especially if there is significant competition established nearby, such as Bass Pro and Cabela's would be for a store in WMU 212. It will be especially difficult to compete if that store does not advertise their new inventory, of course CT does not have weekly flyers that advertise firearms so that throws a wrench in the works. If every store inventoried firearms they could, but because most stores don't it would not make sense to do so.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:47 AM
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Perhaps pointing out the obvious is not so obvious to some. Market conditions vary from store to store and region to region. The firearm sales that one store gets in their area might pale compared to another. I'm saying its up to the franchisee's discretion rather than anything dictated by head office. I was also saying that some clerks haven't a clue what they're talking about, but they will keep talking regardless. As noted, my default CT store is expanding their firearms section with an entire aisle for reloading supplies and equipment. That's the exact opposite of the claim made, and it's got the brand spankin new inventory to contradict the inaccurate blanket claim. It's a decision made by the franchisee and not head office or other stores would simply not be expanding their firearm sections. Heck, the one year old CT immediately next door to Cabela's carries firearms. Not sure how that location is doing with them as the counter has been pretty dead most times I've traipsed through, perhaps that's the one ScottN was referencing?

Some areas are going to suck for gun sales, especially if there is significant competition established nearby, such as Bass Pro and Cabela's would be for a store in WMU 212. It will be especially difficult to compete if that store does not advertise their new inventory, of course CT does not have weekly flyers that advertise firearms so that throws a wrench in the works. If every store inventoried firearms they could, but because most stores don't it would not make sense to do so.
100% correct.
Each store is individually run, and the hunting firearms and ammo decisions are that of the store owners/managers(franchise).

Some franchise owners/managers are not interested in having time and money invested in certain areas, therefore they decide to not do it. The basis of these decisions is varied.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:48 AM
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Connect with the category manager and offer your assistance/advice.

CT can try out your recommendations in a pilot store, and if the results are good, you can rope them into a high prices "product expert consulting" agreement.

Opportunity knocks ..... will you answer the door?
Interestingly I tried to do that a couple of months ago. I started with head office and eventually ended up talking to guys here in Edmonton regional office. They don't have a "Category" Manager for that specific area and the Sports guy was less than interested in helping out the franchise owners that were moving into guns. I got the clear sense that he actually hoped that whole segment would just go away. I think this is pretty much a franchise owner driven initiative from what I can gather.

May have to try talking to the Manning Crossing owner. With Cabela's right down the street he either needs to get serious about what he is doing or he is going to get kicked by Cabela's.
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The gun/ammo aisle in the Camrose Canadian Tire is gated. You have to ask an employee to unlock the gate if you want to walk down the aisle to have a look. A real pain, and inconvenience!
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The gun/ammo aisle in the Camrose Canadian Tire is gated. You have to ask an employee to unlock the gate if you want to walk down the aisle to have a look. A real pain, and inconvenience!
Its a trend in plenty of Canadian tires to lock shelves behind gates.
The Spruce Grove store....I swear has isles and isles of nothing but locked shelves.....to look at a $12 socket I had to have the clerk unlock the cabinets, stand there while I compared things, then take it to customer service herself.

Next item up....more locked shelves and waiting for a clerk to finish with another customer on a different locked shelf, to unlock the next shelf I wanted something from.

Its a sign of what is happening with this org as a result of what has happened.....and its not what most would think.
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Its a sign of what is happening with this org as a result of what has happened.....and its not what most would think.
Are you referring to this incident? Anyone could go to the lawn and garden dept of a CT or any hardware store and better armed than she was....

: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/woman-...2018-1.3672699
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Cdn tire is aware of this and south common has already been changed. Ammo is in the aisles now. No more needing binos but lets see if the keys will always be at the ready! Lol
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Was in the new Canadian Tire at Manning Crossing. Nice big well organised store. It has quite a bit of hunting stuff, some rifles and a large selection of ammo. Problem is the ammo is behind the counter, you can't read the boxes from the other side and they have no one there that knows anything about guns or ammo.

While I am very happy to see CT stepping into this space they are going to need to hire some people, or train some of their existing staff in how to sell these products. They don't need experts but they at least need to know what 30-06 and 270 ammo is. They also need a buyer that knows a little more about what to buy. Most of the stock was the cheapest, poorest built crap available on the market. Very little of what an average user would be looking to buy, let alone any high end stuff. I worry that lack of sales from having the wrong stock and no expertise will lead to many CTs abandoning this market prematurely.

Jeepers did you talk to the manager/owner and express this concerns, our crappy tire here rocks because people talked and others listened, real easy solution.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:38 AM
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Jeepers did you talk to the manager/owner and express this concerns, our crappy tire here rocks because people talked and others listened, real easy solution.
I would NEVER post something like this without having tried first to deal with the issue with the company. To do so would not be fair to them, and pretty much amounts to whining in my view.

There was np owner in when I was there. No manager available. Left a message asking one of them to call me. Almost a week gone by, no call back. I may try again if I go back in there but probably not real hard given how little effort they have put into getting back to me. Your customers should not be your quality control inspectors. That said, glad it worked out in your area, gives me an incentive to try again here.
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Are you referring to this incident? Anyone could go to the lawn and garden dept of a CT or any hardware store and better armed than she was....

: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/woman-...2018-1.3672699
Nope! Theft and distrust, tit for tat.
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Nope! Theft and distrust, tit for tat.

My take on it is that if the courts would lock up the recidivists instead of the revolving door procedure they have implemented it wouldn't be getting this way.
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When the WSS in Lethbridge closed down I was told by a friend that one of the Canadian Tire stores had hired their gun counter staff. I saw one of the former counter guys in the south CT the other day, so that appears to be at least partially true. They have expanded their gun dept slightly and are now stocking reloading equipment plus brass and bullets.
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