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Old 06-20-2016, 11:18 AM
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When I fish lakes I tend to anchor down and work the water. Plenty of folks troll on the lakes I go to. Over the last few years it seems I can't spend a day on the water without a boat or two trolling right threw my kitchen. And by that I mean 20' or less. Quite often I am pulling my line out of their way and having to change where I am casting to.

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that you should make a decent effort to go around a stationary boat (I am not anchored in any channels) and leave the distance of approx a good cast between the two boats. Maybe I am off in thinking this.

This is not happening on crowded lakes either but in places where there is a ton of space. As a contrast, this weekend I had one boat get so close I could read the small writing on one dude's shirt as he putted by in his gas powered aluminum.....and yet two guys in float tubes (powered by flippers!)took the time to go well around me.

Mention how close they are and you get attitude. WTH is wrong with people?
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:35 AM
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Im finding that alot of people have the self entitled mentality and ZERO respect. Just like people's kids walking threw my campsite like it's no issue. Give your head a shake and have some respect
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:37 AM
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Im finding that alot of people have the self entitled mentality and ZERO respect. Just like people's kids walking threw my campsite like it's no issue. Give your head a shake and have some respect
I have more tolerance for kids. Big deal.

As to the OP's problem. just remain calm, cast right into their boat. Smile. Wave.
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:21 PM
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Why would you go fishing in my lake I fished it long before you it's mine lol I just fish naked everybody usually gives me a wide birth
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:39 PM
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Casting deliberately into someones boat may cause damage / injury and result in a bigger problem for you.
Agreed. I wasn't being serious.
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:08 PM
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People are inconsiderate, but also it's not "your kitchen" because you were there first.

How about just casting the other side of your boat until they passed, and then when gone, you can return to where you were casting before. The irritation to you will be gone shortly. It's not like they're static like you.

Casting deliberately into someones boat may cause damage / injury and result in a bigger problem for you.

Also bear in mind it might not be deliberate, they could be trolling a particular depth, or be trying to turn gradually without tangling multiple lines. It could also be you've parked yourself in a prime trolling circuit. Or maybe they troll there regularly and consider it theirs, just like you do :-)
Agree with a bunch of what you say.

My question is then....how much space would YOU say is appropriate? if I am parked in a "prime spot" is a respectable amount of space still too much to ask? Or is it a case of getting what I deserve for being there?
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:48 PM
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Now if I have been trolling an area for a while and someone anchors in my trolling lane, shouldn't they have to move when I come by? Just asking.
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:00 PM
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If you could cast a spoon in to their boat then they are way too close. No excuse for them to troll that close to you. I personally would bomb a cast out behind them and tangle all the lines up then they could learn that trolling too close means down time for everybody. the whole lake is out there with acres and acres to fish and they have to slide up that close? That's rude and inconsiderate in my opinion. I mean would it be alright for a guy to come along and set up his tree stand in the next tree over from you on the same game trail? No, so why be a goof and do it on the water, give the other boat and fisherman some respect and give them a wide berth and when well clear of them swing back in and troll your preferred depth contour. How easy is that!
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:46 PM
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People are inconsiderate, but also it's not "your kitchen" because you were there first.

How about just casting the other side of your boat until they passed, and then when gone, you can return to where you were casting before. The irritation to you will be gone shortly. It's not like they're static like you.

Casting deliberately into someones boat may cause damage / injury and result in a bigger problem for you.

Also bear in mind it might not be deliberate, they could be trolling a particular depth, or be trying to turn gradually without tangling multiple lines. It could also be you've parked yourself in a prime trolling circuit. Or maybe they troll there regularly and consider it theirs, just like you do :-)
X2 I agree.
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:41 PM
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Mention how close they are and you get attitude. WTH is wrong with people?
I would suggest you continue to comment to those who don't provide the appropriate space. If you don't say anything, they will continue. If you do say something, make sure it ISN'T confrontational or as rude as the behavior they display. "Crabs in the bucket" mentality breeds more poor behavior. State it as factual and respectful as can be.

If you as the person witnessing the poor behavior let it go by without comment, I think that becomes, or at least contributes to the continuation of the problem.

I think (or at least hope), that if you do state your point, you would feel better about it, and hope they will eventually get the point.
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:06 PM
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I would suggest you continue to comment to those who don't provide the appropriate space. If you don't say anything, they will continue. If you do say something, make sure it ISN'T confrontational or as rude as the behavior they display.
My comment this past weekend was "Hey man.....that's a little close don't you think?"

Was met with a silent glare and another drive by a little later.
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:10 PM
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My comment this past weekend was "Hey man.....that's a little close don't you think?"

Was met with a silent glare and another drive by a little later.
Good job - you stated your point, but didn't belittle yourself by being rude.

If the guy gets enough comments, hopefully he'll learn one day. With that said, some people take a longer than others to catch on.
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:15 PM
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seems like a prime opportunity to say good morning...and have a chat with a fellow fisherman about fishing.

if lines dont get tangled...and you are friendly with eachother....its not too close IMO

Keep in mind i tournament fish...and rub'n is race'n!!
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Old 06-20-2016, 07:00 PM
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I've been on both sides of this. I've been anchored on a spot and had guys troll within 10' of me. Mentioned something and got hostile looks.

The flip side is I was trolling a line with my kids, (4 lines out with kids is an ordeal in and of itself) when two jack wagons came flying across the lake, pull in directly in front of me at 30 yards and toss anchor. I gave them a "what the heck" shrug and they came unglued on me. Started hurling profanity like you wouldn't believe. I started to get into it with them and then realized I had my kids watching so decided to take the high road. Reeled in and left before something serious happened.

I also water ski a lot and have been on both sides of that too. If someone is anchored in a calm bay, I avoid. But if I'm already skiing in there and you choose to anchor where it's obvious I have been running you better not get upset by the waves and us continuing.

As in all things, respect goes unnoticed but a lack of respect ruins everyone's day.


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Old 06-20-2016, 07:17 PM
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When I was younger and scrappyer I did a real nice side arm cast with a lead jig and bounced it off the side of a glass boat. Owner was a little ticked - I just said I was sorry and did not realize he was that close to where I was fishing

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Old 06-21-2016, 05:44 AM
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I think you out things all into perspective when out fishing, if your one of those guys that goes where the boats are then when others see you catching then everyone migrates over there, don't know if it is a fish magnet or arse magnet but either way you picked that decision or you were sitting/catching and the boats show up well I leave not worth wrecking a day on the water being all upset etc
However I was out over the last few days, marked the bait fish, marked fish around it just were the water went from 80 feet to 100 feet, a 100 yard drop and there was about 10 boats all making passes through that area, fish were being caught, room was made by the other boats so they could fight and land the fish, it was tight and if a boat got out of sequence lines would have been crossed but it was a dance, spacing, timing all in synch, even had a few drifting and jigging too, no issues but I believe all were seasoned vets, no butt holes, however throw in one hot head or rookie and it could have been a mess but I had a choice to stay or leave, that mature crowd had us joining the trolling dance
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