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Old 05-10-2012, 11:22 AM
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Yikes, some serious money involved in this one
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/05/0...100000-lawsuit

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It’s never a good idea to upset a person who travels around the world killing animals for sport.

Edmonton businessman Raymond Moher has launched a $100,000 lawsuit against local taxidermist Clarence Kriaski after alleging he carelessly destroyed the hides of 18 animals he had hired him to preserve.

According to a statement of claim filed in Court of Queen’s Bench on April 18, Moher is an experienced trophy game hunter who travels the world to participate in safaris and hunt remote trophy animals for sport.

Moher alleges he hired Wildlife Originals by Clarence Kriaski to mount 18 animals he had hunted, including a buffalo, a feral sheep, a feral goat and several deer from Australia; a Marco Polo sheep and a Himalayan Ibex from Tajikastan; a Desert bighorn from Mexico; a wart hog, an impala and a kudu from Africa and an Alberta porcupine.

Moher claims he made numerous requests to pick up the trophy mounted animals, but Kriaski kept putting him off and saying the job was not yet finished.

On Feb. 10, Moher says he had the unfinished hides picked up at Wildlife Originals and taken right away to Artistic Taxidermy to have the work completed.

He alleges he was then called by Artistic Taxidermy owner Brian Dobson immediately after the hides had been dropped off and told they were contaminated with silver fish bugs, full of eggs and the hair was falling out.

Moher alleges Kriaski caused “irreparable damage” to the hides as a result of not taking reasonable care in his work and negligently storing them.

He claims the damage stems from the incorrect application of the appropriate preserving chemicals, incorrect tanning technique, incorrect mounting technique and a failure to freeze or freeze dry the hides.

Moher says he is out the money he paid for trophy fees and shipping and will have to pay more fix the damage.

A statement of defence has not yet been filed.

Statements of claim and statements of defence contain allegations which have not been proven in court.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:31 AM
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Yikes, some serious money involved in this one
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/05/0...100000-lawsuit
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:32 AM
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good ol Clarence lol
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:37 AM
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anyone have any pics of his work?
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:40 AM
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what could you buy these hides for on the open market ?

that is all the hunter is legally entitled too . .
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:44 AM
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any chance the eggs and larvae were there prior to the first taxi touching them?
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:11 PM
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any chance the eggs and larvae were there prior to the first taxi touching them?
Messy! Whats the potential of a countersuit for having the taxi shop contaminated by "dirty" capes ?
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:06 PM
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what could you buy these hides for on the open market ?

that is all the hunter is legally entitled too . .
Nope.

What did his numerous safari's cost him? Damages aren't always limited to an items market value. If your child is killed in a car accident can the insurance co send you an orphan from Somalia and call it even?

If you were a lawyer, you wouldn't be eating very well.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:11 PM
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Nope.

What did his numerous safari's cost him? Damages aren't always limited to an items market value. If your child is killed in a car accident can the insurance co send you an orphan from Somalia and call it even?

If you were a lawyer, you wouldn't be eating very well.
You're partly right, in Canada all a person is entitled to in a civil lawsuit is ACTUAL damages. In this case he may be entitled to some of the money he spent on hunting the hides, transporting them, etc. Having said that your example refers to PUNATIVE damages, which in Canada is FAR below the numbers you hear from the states. He won't get $100k, even if he deserves it.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:14 PM
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Nope.

What did his numerous safari's cost him? Damages aren't always limited to an items market value. If your child is killed in a car accident can the insurance co send you an orphan from Somalia and call it even?

If you were a lawyer, you wouldn't be eating very well.
sorry . . .

you can 't compare a lost kid to monetary value , since it is not legal to buy or sell children ., no open market per se

if your pet dies and its the vets fault all you are entitled to is the value of the pet . ie- what you paid would probably be the replacement value . if it is a bitch that you sell her litter then you have a case to get more ., a proven loss of income in this case .

if you pay $50k for a hunt and you can buy said hide for $5k, shipped to you and all fees , etc . . that is what you are legally entitled to in this case as this is all the taxidermist damaged . you still recieved the hunt so why should the taxi be liable for that ?

good thing you are not a lawyer .. .
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:46 AM
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anyone have any pics of his work?
Ya it's on his web site.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:54 AM
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Finally someone got mad enough

Not surprised in the least

Ive paid him a few personal visits in regards to work taking 3 or 4 years.

I hope the hunter gets every cent
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:41 AM
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good ol Clarence lol
Yup. lol
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:44 AM
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good ol Clarence lol
Wasn't he known for his fish work?
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Wasn't he known for his fish work?

Ya but he did a crappy job on his SILVERFISH ....... They aren't so nice .......... Mowhaha
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I have dealt with a few wankers like this in the past but what I will do is ask for references, if no references given, see ya wanker.
When I do find a place I like I give them something simple to carry out, I take into consideration time, money, quality and then see if I will repeat my business with that outfit. I sure as heck would not dump a truck load of work on a outfit and hope for the best, that being said hope the customer gets something back out of this.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:36 PM
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Does not supprise me. I had some poor work done by these guys previously. My whitetail cape came back to me with a rust stain on the neck. It would never go away and their solution was to paint it white. Far from good, good from a far.
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