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Old 05-30-2017, 11:15 AM
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Default 30-06 springfield preferred bullet gr for over 200yrd shot for Big Game.

Just thought i would see on what kind of brand and gram
of bullet would be good to use to take down a Moose or Elk on a 200+ yard shot. I have seen wild game over 200yrds so i had to stalk them to get a closer shot.....i have been using these for under 200yrd shots... Rem 180gr Core-Lokt PSP or Win Ballistic 180gr.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:21 AM
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Just thought i would see on what kind of brand and gram
of bullet would be good to use to take down a Moose or Elk on a 200+ yard shot. I have seen wild game over 200yrds so i had to stalk them to get a closer shot.....i have been using these for under 200yrd shots... Rem 180gr Core-Lokt PSP or Win Ballistic 180gr.
You're good to go with the 180 Core Lokd. If they shoot well in your gun, use them.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:39 AM
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Whatever one is the most accurate. 2-300 yards is not a long shot for the'06.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:46 AM
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Whatever one is the most accurate. 2-300 yards is not a long shot for the'06.
^^Hard to argue with this^^
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:48 AM
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I've been using nosler 180 gr. ballistic tip for the last 2 years. I'm very happy with the result so far: 2 bears, 2 elk, 1 moose and 1 deer. They all fell right in there tracks, not at long range though, they were all shot between 25 and 100 yards, but I'm fully confident that the result would be similar at distances over 200 yds.
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You're good to go with the 180 Core Lokd. If they shoot well in your gun, use them.
Yep. Let 'er rip!
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I used 165 gr Hornady SST or BTSP in my 30-06 and shot moose at over 300 yards no problem.
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I used 165 gr Hornady SST or BTSP in my 30-06 and shot moose at over 300 yards no problem.
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I think that with Monometal bullets we can use lighter for caliber bullets at faster velocity and those bullet will deliver more Momentum at distances past 200 y than heavier ones.
I am using 150 gr Barnes TTSX for this very reason in my 3 30-06 ( When we go hunting together with my Sons we all have same rifles, same calibers 30-06, same scopes and same handloads.)
Hornady 150 gr SST we use for plinking, they would kill but I trust coper more.



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Been using Federal premium vital shok 165gr.

shot a nice muley and few white-tailed and a bear. does pretty good damage and really accurate out of my tikka.

http://www.federalpremium.com/ammuni...tail-sp/p3006d
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165 gr InterLock® BTSP Hornady.

One bullet that does it all.
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Shoot a pretty plain Jane '06. Savage 111 and she likes the store bought winchester 180 grain with the lead tip and sight it in a couple inches high at 200 and down they go. 400 yard is still just a slight hold over but 500 is almost 4ft drop but it still hits hard out there. The 165 in my cheaper gun shot a little loose and erratic but the old 180 groups nice and puts your animal down aswell.
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Old 05-30-2017, 08:23 PM
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I have killed a whole pile of stuff including moose with a 168 gr TSX.

Great killer, easy to load and accurate in every rifle I ever shot it in.
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I use 150 or 165gr bullets in all my 30 cals.

I place my shots so I'm not too concerned about bullet performance.
After all, a lot of Moose Bears and Deer were taken with sharp sticks and lead balls before someone discovered that there was money to be made selling trophy bonded bullets to people who will never hunt an Elephant or a Lion.

In a few more years we will learn that a 300 ultra mega magnum loaded with solid bullets is the minimum necessary to take down a cottontail.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:43 PM
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Too many different bullets on market. Just keep the most accurate one
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:34 PM
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^^^ Yuppers.

If you find some good shooting bullets that your comfortable with, then your onto a good thing.

Plan was too run 180's, then the 165's,,, ended up in the SST 150 category as they group good.
Speer SPBT in the collection too.

$28 a box,,, picked up lots of them so I can slowly start my quest too burn out a barrel. LOL.

Good luck in the find.

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Just thought i would see on what kind of brand and gram
of bullet would be good to use to take down a Moose or Elk on a 200+ yard shot. I have seen wild game over 200yrds so i had to stalk them to get a closer shot.....i have been using these for under 200yrd shots... Rem 180gr Core-Lokt PSP or Win Ballistic 180gr.
Take this with a grain of salt, but Winchester itself doesn't recommend the Ballistic Tip for elk. It does for deer, but not elk.

Accubond would be fine. Want a do-anything bullet, try a Partition. Of course the proviso is that it has to shoot well from YOUR gun.
180g is a good choice but I'd be comfortable with a 165g bullet as well if it was stout and shot well from my gun.
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:41 AM
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Actually, Winchester does suggest the BT for Elk.
http://www.winchester.com/products/r...s/default.aspx
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Actually, Winchester does suggest the BT for Elk.
http://www.winchester.com/products/r...s/default.aspx
That's interesting. Because if you use the feature where you select ammo by animal, it comes up for deer but not elk. Strange.
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I have killed a whole pile of stuff including moose with a 168 gr TSX.

Great killer, easy to load and accurate in every rifle I ever shot it in.
Used Federal BTSP for decades, everything I shot died.
Switched to TTSX a few years ago, everything is still dying.

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Old 05-31-2017, 08:29 PM
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I have used a 30-06 shooting the hornady 165 grain BTSP for over 20 years on everything from antelope to bison. I'm very comfortable out to 400 yards on anything. Bullet placement is most important, find what you and your gun likes and stick with it. I believe a 165 grain projectile is a good all around choice. If a properly placed 165 grain can't kill your target, neither will the 150 or 180 grain.
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Shoot a pretty plain Jane '06. Savage 111 and she likes the store bought winchester 180 grain with the lead tip and sight it in a couple inches high at 200 and down they go. 400 yard is still just a slight hold over but 500 is almost 4ft drop but it still hits hard out there. The 165 in my cheaper gun shot a little loose and erratic but the old 180 groups nice and puts your animal down aswell.
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"A couple inches high at 200"??
So what's that....4...5...6" high at 100??
Is that deer 390m or 445m??
Guess it wrong and it's a complete miss.
Unless you have a range finder,a metric tonne of trigger time behind your 06 with handloads,and drop charts tattooed on your forearm,you have no bizness shooting much past 300y with 30-06.
If you think you're gonna eyeball a deer and guesstimate the range at 400-500 yards give er take,and drop a bullet into it's heart,yer dreamn.
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"A couple inches high at 200"??
So what's that....4...5...6" high at 100??
Is that deer 390m or 445m??
Guess it wrong and it's a complete miss.
Unless you have a range finder,a metric tonne of trigger time behind your 06 with handloads,and drop charts tattooed on your forearm,you have no bizness shooting much past 300y with 30-06.
If you think you're gonna eyeball a deer and guesstimate the range at 400-500 yards give er take,and drop a bullet into it's heart,yer dreamn.
he didn't say he wasn't experienced nor did he say he doesn't use a range finder.
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125 140 150 165 180 220 brrrzinger omg ....if you cant kill it with a 30-06 its to big to put in the truck lol. ok , i changed to hornady 165 bt and love them for anything in north amarica
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Each person zeros where they want, that way it allows "lee-way adjustments over all.

Sierra Reloading manual along with other reloading books explain this.

Each bullet with its reloading charge can very with in the 8" impact zone,,, + 4" high at this yardage, - 4" drop at this point.

Example "could" look like this...

Let's say the girth is + or - 16". This allows the shooter too pin-point the 8" of vital-zone in its front lower section.

We find out in our "field test" that the rise of + 4" happens at this range, and - 4" at that range,,, the shooter has the option too split that distance for that particular cartrage that they choose too shoot.

Archery and black powder folks "sometimes" use this sighting method, I do as its fast and accurate with out adjustments.

My 8" gong from 100 too 200 yards gets X hairs placed on the bottom lower edge of the gong.

200 too 300 yards I hold center. 400 too 500 the gong gets stacked by 1. Kinda like a gong on top of a gong. Ha.

Lucky this year as my new optics have fast built in range finder and open hole see threw mill rings.
But this simple cross hair sighting idea has been around for many years.

Its not for everyone by no means, but it does come in handy for us that choose slow heavy projectiles as it allows us the 8" viral zone.

We learn over time at the range on how much hold under or over with the cartrage we want too use.

In the old days I duck-taped + and - numbers too my rifle stock. I'll still do this too my new rifle once I field test the 150gr for my 30/06.

Once I write the numbers down from 100 too 500 yards, they remain in my mind from there on in.

I'll post more of this on the return too 30/06 thread once the rifle comes back from the gun smith.

Don at trying different things at the range as I learn the cartrages, rifle and how it works with my not as steady hands of days gone by.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:23 PM
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Easy there big fella. Just one of those guys that only has to squeeze the trigger once or maybe twice a year. I don't find a lot of pleasure nor do I have the time to burn out barrels trying to get a 180 grain fired out of a 500 dollar gun to group at an inch. I spend my time scouting quality animals and putting myself in a position to take my animal in a low risk situation in a humane, legal and ethical manner. If he's 400 yards away I aim at the top of the back. Down he goes. If he's 300 or right on my lap I point where I wanna hit and down he goes. Moose elk or deer. 180 grain. Store bought. End of story.
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"A couple inches high at 200"??
So what's that....4...5...6" high at 100??
Is that deer 390m or 445m??
Guess it wrong and it's a complete miss.
Unless you have a range finder,a metric tonne of trigger time behind your 06 with handloads,and drop charts tattooed on your forearm,you have no bizness shooting much past 300y with 30-06.
If you think you're gonna eyeball a deer and guesstimate the range at 400-500 yards give er take,and drop a bullet into it's heart,yer dreamn.
lol oh my. Ill have to agree with Pike. All i use is my savage 30-06....I can promise you Pike ahs killed more, and bigger animals than most guys.....

Being a bullet gear head doesnt put animals on the ground boys
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