Hunting shows constructive criticism

[marky_mark]

Honestly I have a lot of respect for all of the individuals that try and produce the shows that we all watch. All of these shows cost tens of thousands of dollars to get on the air. How about some positive constructive input so that they can make their shows better for us to watch?

List the show
Say what you would like to see

[Dewey Cox]

Field dress it on tv.
We all have our own way of doing it, and it's always nice to see someone else's method.

[huntwat]

Don't go overboard with the excitement.
Do unguided hunts.
As mentioned, field care.
Seems that a lot of the shows priorities are huge animals. That's not the real world for beginner hunters.

[thumper]

Tone down the music, and don't use footage where you can't hear a word of the whispering with the wind howling.

[marky_mark]

Honestly there’s a million videos on YouTube how to field dress an animal
Pretty sure it doesn’t need to be repeated on every show

Not everybody can do unguided hunts
Legalities if your a non resident
Guides keep the shows legal and gives the viewers a chance for the exact same experience if you go hunt with them

[Dewey Cox]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Honestly there’s a million videos on YouTube how to field dress an animal
Pretty sure it doesn’t need to be repeated on every show

Not everybody can do unguided hunts
Legalities if your a non resident
Guides keep the shows legal and gives the viewers a chance for the exact same experience if you go hunt with them

You're looking for constructive criticism, but every idea contrary to the norm is wrong?
Here's my criticism:
Youtube exists, so hunting shows are obsolete.

[huntwat]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Honestly there’s a million videos on YouTube how to field dress an animal
Pretty sure it doesn’t need to be repeated on every show

Not everybody can do unguided hunts
Legalities if your a non resident
Guides keep the shows legal and gives the viewers a chance for the exact same experience if you go hunt with them

Well, sorry all to hell. Marky. If you just wanted an argument, why didn't you just say so. You would have received way more responses.

[58thecat]

Love meat eaters format, Cody Robbins got it right too, minimize the talking about nothing related to the hunt, minimize the scenes of squirrels, little birds etc and get to the hunt.

I know commercials are implemented therefore I PVR shows or watch it on Netflix like meat eater so I don't get bogged down with bs.

[Piker]

Way too much talking!

[35 whelen]

I worked at a few lodges back in the day when Al Lindner and the boys would come up and we would save certain Bays for them, no one else was allowed to fish in there so they could film their shows.

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[209x50]

Originally Posted by 35 whelen

I worked at a few lodges back in the day when Al Lindner and the boys would come up and we would save certain Bays for them, no one else was allowed to fish in there so they could film their shows.

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I knew Al and Ron Lindner from my days on the PWT. They were very savvy business men! LOL

[Sledhead71]

We should be giving some credit to all the producers who bring their productions to the airways. It is a TOUGH gig period having to produce "x" episodes annually.

There are some who want to be stars, others who just want to bring the outdoor experience indoors to the viewers. There are 100 ways to do this, no scripts in this industry, live and never the same scenario while trying to capture GOOD footage.

Commercials are the show, there is no way around the cost factor and the sponsors demand mileage for their money. The viewers demand Hollywood style productions, the average show does not have the capability to hire camera men/woman, editors, producers and provide gear to a large group of ground crew members.

We can critique all we want, I for one am thankful that there are people who provide these productions to the general public.

All the best this season.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Sledhead71

We should be giving some credit to all the producers who bring their productions to the airways. It is a TOUGH gig period having to produce "x" episodes annually.

There are some who want to be stars, others who just want to bring the outdoor experience indoors to the viewers. There are 100 ways to do this, no scripts in this industry, live and never the same scenario while trying to capture GOOD footage.

Commercials are the show, there is no way around the cost factor and the sponsors demand mileage for their money. The viewers demand Hollywood style productions, the average show does not have the capability to hire camera men/woman, editors, producers and provide gear to a large group of ground crew members.

We can critique all we want, I for one am thankful that there are people who provide these productions to the general public.

All the best this season.

I agree with you.

This post went sideways really fast from the direction I had hoped it would have gone

Some of the comments boggle my mind

I deleted about 5 paragraphs that I wanted to say but I shouldn’t

[Bulldog Edm]

I like the shows that show missed shots. Getting busted. Even when they show a bad shot and you can see the emotion of the hunter.

One of my favorite shows to watch is bowhuntordie. Self filmed hunts. Well edited. They show it all. Then they talk about it. Not just trophy hunts. Some will harvest a meat doe. I've see them miss a trophy target buck trying to get it on film.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I agree with you.

This post went sideways really fast from the direction I had hoped it would have gone

Some of the comments boggle my mind

I deleted about 5 paragraphs that I wanted to say but I shouldn’t

Little confused. You asked for constructive criticism of existing outdoor shows so the guys making them can appeal better to the audience. I think there was some excellent feedback that if someone styled a show on that basis, it would be very popular. Meat Eater and Shockys shows incorporate a lot of what has been suggested and seem to be widely popular among AO members. I don't think that is just a coincidence.

[Full Curl Earl]

Agreed, Those two shows have the budget of about 10 of your standard Wild tv shows. If it werent for advertising there would be no industry
I think Dana White/Fatal Impact has some of the better videography out there.
The few host i know are humbled they get to make a living chasing dreams. And thats good enough for me. There is something for everyone to enjoy out there.
Oh, and when i hear “he shoots he scores” on a particular show, i throw up a little in my mouth. Lol

[bobalong]

I have already posted what I like in a show but I am pretty sure I am not in the age/demographic their targeting. Target audience is 20-35 age group, just starting out need lots of gear, want every easy/techy thing available, want to be driven to their hunt area, want guide to get permission, range animal and set up shooting sticks for them, lots of disposal income, wear flat brim hat, white sunglasses, big magnum rifle, 500/piece camo. I don't fall into almost any of the things listed so probably not going to find a lot of shows I like.

[calvin]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Little confused. You asked for constructive criticism of existing outdoor shows so the guys making them can appeal better to the audience. I think there was some excellent feedback that if someone styled a show on that basis, it would be very popular. Meat Eater and Shockys shows incorporate a lot of what has been suggested and seem to be widely popular among AO members. I don't think that is just a coincidence.

That's kind of where I was thinking. One thing with this post is the OP originally wanted constructive criticism. That likely won't happen on this forum.

[35 whelen]

Just turned on Wild TV at work first show on outdoor Quest, first few minutes is promotion already , and they're in New Zealand again do they go anywhere else I guess I could always change the channel and I am.

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[58thecat]

What torques me about commercials is when they run the same one back to back or have a different one I between but back To the same one again......thank god for PVR....next best thing to sliced bread

[Big Grey Wolf]

I highly respect Claudio as a very accomplished bird hunting guide. However Claudio please loose the "Kill" direction when birds come in by both you and your guides. Whats wrong with "Take em" "Now" . PETA looks for stuff like that and use it against us.

[bobalong]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

I highly respect Claudio as a very accomplished bird hunting guide. However Claudio please loose the "Kill" direction when birds come in by both you and your guides. Whats wrong with "Take em" "Now" . PETA looks for stuff like that and use it against us.

Hunting involves killing, pizz on PETA no need to try and sugar coat the killing of birds and animals it is what hunters do and I find no need to use warm and fuzzy language because it may upset a bunch of idiot losers.

[209x50]

Originally Posted by bobalong

hunting involves killing, pizz on peta no need to try and sugar coat the killing of birds and animals it is what hunters do and i find no need to use warm and fuzzy language because it may upset a bunch of idiot losers.

amen!

[ktownsend]

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[West O'5]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Oh, and when i hear “he shoots he scores” on a particular show, i throw up a little in my mouth. Lol

AMEN!!
Right up there with “chuckin the horns”....that kid reminds me of somebody I would have likely beat up in school ,in hockey,and NEVER hang out or hunt with.

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

Want to choke the life of the Dime Store Fisherman will his irritating fingernails on a blackboard voice ranting on and on.

No kiddin,does that guy EVER shut up,lol
I feel sorry for Terry from FishTales,I would be tempted to drown that guy on a float trip from Police-McKinnons,he wouldn’t survive beyond “must be nice” in my boat.

I like Shockey,MeatEater,SoloHunters,JP’s Into The Wild(RIP tragic loss ),The Edge,Trapping Inc.and a very short list of a few others.

[Gordoats26]

I love the born and raised outdoors land of the free series on youtube. Not sure I would change a thing except they could maybe hug a little less lol.. But those boys get after it. Meat Eater and Randy Newbergs fresh tracks are good too.

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[HoytCRX32]

I'm glad some hosts are finally stopping with the 'this animal will feed my family" when it's the 10th animal they shot that season...I've noticed Canada In The Rough now talks a little more of sharing meat with "others" (I assume food banks)...why is this not being shown more on other shows (if they are doing it)...could really show some Antis that it's not just about the kill. A program or two showing meat being enjoyed by people in unfortunate circumstances IN CANADA would be a good thing. I would watch it with pride. They are doing this more on the African hunt shows.

Oh, and I really like watching Trapping Inc., although I'm not a trapper.

[tatonka2]

Constructive Criticism:

1.) Get rid of the loud, blaring obnoxious music. It adds absolutely nothing to the show.

2.) We get it..we need to sight our rifles in before we hunt. We don't need to see it before every hunt on every show.

3.) If you've seen one deer shot from a tree stand over a food plot, you've seen them all. We don't need a steady diet of it.

4.) Don't whisper... if you have to whisper, use a narrator.. Us old guys can't hear even when you speak up, so when you whisper we hear nothing... We can't read lips.

5.) If you shoot a critter on a game farm, say so.. We figure it out anyway, but don't make it look like you are hunting free range.

[Buckhorn2]

For me its the whispering. Annoys me to the point of turning alot of them off. Just over dub your narration. Im a fan of most of randy newbergs stuff and steve rinella, i like they show the misses, the empty handed hunts, the cleaning. the cooking as well. I’ll never watch a show if its a whitetail deer shot over a food plot. I enjoy waterfowl hunting as well but not into waterfowl tv shows.


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[raised by wolves]

Hosts need to stop marketing crappy gear like it is the best thing available.