Magma melting Greenlands ice

Sundancefisher · #1 01-23-2016, 09:52 AM

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Interesting read.

It would be nice to post interesting studies to talk about versus media articles.

CaberTosser · #2 01-23-2016, 09:55 AM

That magma was caused by my homes central heating system, sorry about that everyone

Sundancefisher · #3 01-23-2016, 09:56 AM

Very interesting. Some think Greenland is melting because of people. When we look to actual studies we see alternative theories that don't guess but actually provide facts.

magma melting Greenland study

Cool research that is missed in media commentary.

Sundancefisher · #4 01-23-2016, 09:59 AM

Other than natural changes and fluctuations to ocean currents Antarctica also has ice melting due to magma.

magma melts Antarctica study

Very interesting.

Grizzly Adams · #5 01-23-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Very interesting. Some think Greenland is melting because of people. When we look to actual studies we see alternative theories that don't guess but actually provide facts.

magma melting Greenland study

Cool research that is missed in media commentary.

No one wants to talk about THIS.

The yet undiscovered population control solution is the only effective fix.

Grizz

Sundancefisher · #6 01-23-2016, 10:04 AM

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No one wants to talk about THIS.

The yet undiscovered population control solution is the only effective fix.

Grizz

I found the first article interesting however I wanted to see if I could validate the point on magma with science. A public assumption is ice melting in Greenland is caused by mankind. Media definitely promotes it as such as well as others. While Antarctic's ice is robust...what melting there is gets blamed on mankind.

These two studies show some facts around magma.

Clgy_Dave2.0 · #7 01-23-2016, 10:06 AM

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Interesting read.

It would be nice to post interesting studies to talk about versus media articles.

Climate change normal, but population key to survival

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During Earth’s history there has been constant water eroding mountain tops into ocean silt, sea-life shell accumulation, volcanoes spewing ash, mid-ocean ridge precipitates and meteoric material falling from the sky raising the ocean floor continuously over uncounted eons.

Climate change is the normal state of affairs; we must adapt. The sn provides the heat and there are 11-year sun-spot cycles, an 88-year cycle and a 208-year cycle and other cycles not understood even as well as those mentioned. The sun provides the heat that drives the various climates on Earth. The sun is roughly equal to a million Earths.

The total available life-energy-sunlight trapped on Earth is about the amount fixed when the trace gases carbon dioxide (CO2) and water form sugar by photosynthesis setting an upper limit of human population at about 2 billion (experts vary) with any excess population requiring nonrenewable energy (e.g. nuclear and fossil fuels).

The science of weather systems is very much under study and too political.Earth is warming out of a glacial age, no debate.Considering all the elements, solar variation, precession, volcanism, et al, it is hubris to claim that humanity controls or causes weather and climate.

Our atmosphere is in equilibrium based on land-water-solar balanced factors and rapidly stabilizes resisting any quick change.

Further rate-of-change data from Greenland show land-ice is melting from the magma-bubble that forms Iceland rising up to melt the glacier’s underside. There are estimated 100 to 300 giga-tons (cubic kilometers) of Greenlandic-ice melting yearly (experts vary) raising the oceans, perhaps,  2 inches in a century (after incorporating isostatic-rebound). Ocean floor sedimentation is estimated about 2 inches per millennium. Clearly, the pace of these changes is in the order of multiple human lifetimes, and these are considered “accelerated” changes. With such timelines, hair-on-fire emergency responses are wrong-headed.

For comparison sake, the glacial record shows a ratio of 100,000 years continental glaciers to 15,000 years interglacial periods. At the max, continental glaciers lowered ocean level about 400 feet. The oceans rise and fall as they do. So, when your feet get wet in Miami, move to Denver.

When the northern hemispheric winter and the closest orbital approach to the sun occur together, as now, we get mild winters and cool summers. The related net effect is a warmer Earth. Ice cores back 400 millennia show temperature spikes as expected. Geologically, the Earth’s average temperature is 12 to 14 degrees F cooler than now, often causing plenty of land-ice.

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Sundancefisher · #8 01-23-2016, 11:32 AM

So who is this nut saying ice is growing on earth? Saying so much ice the ocean level is dropping.

It is NASA

Very interesting factual study. Well worth reading for the facts.

Sundancefisher · #9 01-23-2016, 11:51 AM

Another interesting study. Media promotes that yes...we could have natural warming but the rate seen is too fast to explain without saying mankind is to blame.

This study from Greenland ice core data can address that for folks via actual data and facts.

historical speed of climate changes seen through ice core data

Let folks read and think for themselves.

Source. Pennsylvania State University.