Would you support the intro of a bass fishery in Alberta?

[Donkey Oatey]

Human beings are the only creatures on earth that believe if you do something enough times the same way the out come will be different.

It was tried, It failed, move on.

[horsetrader]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

Human beings are the only creatures on earth that believe if you do something enough times the same way the out come will be different.

It was tried, It failed, move on.

Your objection to this thread tried to stop it it failed.MOVE ON!..........

[horsetrader]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

Human beings are the only creatures on earth that believe if you do something enough times the same way the out come will be different.

It was tried, It failed, move on.

I forgot in your perfect world eveything works the first time.....

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by horsetrader

I forgot in your perfect world eveything works the first time.....

Once again doing something over and over the same way and you expect a different outcome.

I can't believe a group of sportsmen can want to introduce a new species into the province that hasn't worked in the past and say "well we just didn't try hard enough".

Look at the problems with introduced species in this province and other locations. The bucket brigade with always find a way to fvck it up.

We don't need bass in Alberta, just like we don't need perch in trout ponds and we don't need asian carp in the USA, snakeheads, etc. etc. etc.

[horsetrader]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

Once again doing something over and over the same way and you expect a different outcome.

I can't believe a group of sportsmen can want to introduce a new species into the province that hasn't worked in the past and say "well we just didn't try hard enough".

Look at the problems with introduced species in this province and other locations. The bucket brigade with always find a way to fvck it up.

We don't need bass in Alberta, just like we don't need perch in trout ponds and we don't need asian carp in the USA, snakeheads, etc. etc. etc.

And there's no posable way anyone has learned anything different since the 1980's. Fortunate for the rest of the world not all people are like you they believe things can be learned ,change dose not cloud their judgment.


You should be glad that there are people that don't just give up other wards we could all be still living in caves..But then maybe you......no that's just to easy.


And even blaming a problem you take the easy way out."THEM DARN BUCKET BRIGADERS."...Mean while there's a few ways species can get transferred in to other waters.....

Oh and just so you know perch are native to Alberta and Yellow perch are and will continue to be an important species within much of Alberta as a high quality meal for humans and as prey for other fish

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by horsetrader

And there's no posable way anyone has learned anything different since the 1980's. Fortunate for the rest of the world not all people are like you they believe things can be learned ,change dose not cloud their judgment.

You just don't get it do you? Didn't work. Biology says won't work. And yet you persist.

You should be glad that there are people that don't just give up other wards we could all be still living in caves..But then maybe you......no that's just to easy.

Those that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

And even blaming a problem you take the easy way out."THEM DARN BUCKET BRIGADERS."...Mean while there's a few ways species can get transferred in to other waters.....

Oh and just so you know perch are native to Alberta and Yellow perch are and will continue to be an important species within much of Alberta as a high quality meal for humans and as prey for other fish

No easy way out, just a realistic one. How do you think fisheries like Sundance Lake, Cummings Lake and many many others were screwed? People introducing perch to a lake with no known predators. What do you get? Stunted, useless perch that even if you do fish for them they are no bigger than 6" long.

And no $**t sherlock that perch are native to Alberta. But when you or someone like you decides "Hey these things would grow awesome close to home. Lets move some" you get situations described above.

Guess you know better than mother nature about bass and living in Alberta. Keep on the crusade there bud.

[horsetrader]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

You just don't get it do you? Didn't work. Biology says won't work. And yet you persist.



Those that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.



No easy way out, just a realistic one. How do you think fisheries like Sundance Lake, Cummings Lake and many many others were screwed? People introducing perch to a lake with no known predators. What do you get? Stunted, useless perch that even if you do fish for them they are no bigger than 6" long.

And no $**t sherlock that perch are native to Alberta. But when you or someone like you decides "Hey these things would grow awesome close to home. Lets move some" you get situations described above.

Guess you know better than mother nature about bass and living in Alberta. Keep on the crusade there bud.

Sorry did not realize you were a biologist .....Right....


Your an only chid right......





There is more the one way for fish introduction but not for someone with a one track mind...




There it is knew you could not get through 1 simple post with out name calling......congrats........

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No don't think i'm smarter then" mother nature" ......just "you":.......

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by horsetrader

Sorry did not realize you were a biologist .....Right....

You have no idea who I am or what I have training in. Its the internet so i am 7' tall, 350lbs of muscle and am a doctorate in 15 different disciplines from fish biology to French poetry.

Actually if you refer back in this very thread Sundancefisher is a fisheries biologist and he has stated that for put and take lakes biology doesn't work.

Now as a person who does have an interest and training in fisheries biology I would like to say I do not want to see any more introduced species in to Alberta for the reasons stated above.

Your an only chid right......

Nope. Have a younger sister.

There is more the one way for fish introduction but not for someone with a one track mind...

Absolutely there are other ways for fish to be introduced. Now tell me what "natural" way would Bass be introduced in to the Province of Alberta? Or how perch were introduced in to Lake Sundance, Cummings Lake, Hasse, etc etc etc..........?

There it is knew you could not get through 1 simple post with out name calling......congrats........

Haven't called you a name yet. Sorry but you have been pretty much bullying anyone with a differing opinion than you. Listen I think you are wrong and have posted reasons why I think you are wrong. All you come back with is "I know you are but what am I?".

Grow up.

Now here is another question for you to ignore and not answer, why do you think bass would make a successful fishery in Alberta and what measures would you take to make sure that Bass did not have an adverse effect on native fish populations if they were to someway leave their designated lake? I worry that because bass are predatory that native populations of fish could be at risk to another predator.

No don't think i'm smarter then" mother nature" ......just "you":.......

I guess this sums up the whole debate. Can't debate against someone that is superior than everyone else. I guess when you get nominated as king of the universe you can just snap your fingers and we will have bass in the province.