2013 Archery Mule deer going on Draw

[whitetail Junkie]

Just kind of curious as to what everyone's thoughts are on the fact that this will be the last year of being able to buy a general Mule buck Tag in Alberta For Archery purposes?

I Know about 3 years ago myself and some buddies thought up this same idea,for a variety of reasons....I even posted\Made A thread on here about the exact same subject! I was laughed at..."Thanks for the Chuckle" I believe Steve or someone said.

Eitherway... now i'm not sure if Putting Archery Mule buck on draw is the right move?I know for sure that Trophy quility will improve,however maybe to cut down on the ever increaseing mule buck archery harvest,the government should be cutting the outfitter and non resident canadian harvest???(just a thought) What do you guys think should be done?

Eitherway enjoy the General 2012 mulebuck season,because it's going to be the last!

[steve]

A hard winter plus GROSS mis-management has led us to this.

[Fletch10]

I've not heard anything of this....what is the source?

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by steve

A hard winter plus GROSS mis-management has led us to this.

I'll Agree 100% with that statement!!!

[IR_mike]

Province wide WJ?
Or just the zones close to the population centres that get hammered every year?

[H380]

Too bad that Aberta residents get limited before the outfitters do .Like you said Junkie , I saw this coming way back .Looks like if you ever want to get a velvet muley it better be this year .

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by IR_mike

Province wide WJ?
Or just the zones close to the population centres that get hammered every year?

Peace river area\All 100 Series Wmu's

[Drop_Tine]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

Peace river area\All 100 Series Wmu's

Doesnt make sense , the 200 series zones of eastern alberta prob got hit the hardest , so why would those wmu not go on draw if this was the case ??? Just asking??????

[trigger7mm]

Originally Posted by steve

A hard winter plus GROSS mis-management has led us to this.

This sums it up exactly.

[Rackmastr]

Great post WB.....so true about population data, etc.

[solocam]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

Just kind of curious as to what everyone's thoughts are on the fact that this will be the last year of being able to buy a general Mule buck Tag in Alberta For Archery purposes?

I Know about 3 years ago myself and some buddies thought up this same idea,for a variety of reasons....I even posted\Made A thread on here about the exact same subject! I was laughed at..."Thanks for the Chuckle" I believe Steve or someone said.

Eitherway... now i'm not sure if Putting Archery Mule buck on draw is the right move?I know for sure that Trophy quility will improve,however maybe to cut down on the ever increaseing mule buck archery harvest,the government should be cutting the outfitter and non resident canadian harvest???(just a thought) What do you guys think should be done?

Eitherway enjoy the General 2012 mulebuck season,because it's going to be the last!

The only thing I remember About your Thread that you started was how much you dislike Bow hunting and what a Great shot you are with a rifle Thanks for the Chuckle is right!!!

[Lefty-Canuck]

SO a couple questions I am confused on with the 15% "magic number"

.....do things go on draw when bowhunter numbers hit 15% of the total number of hunters?

.....so in other words they sell bow permits to 15% of the people who buy hunting licenses and then that sets off warning bells?

.....or do things go on draw when bowhunting accounts for 15% of the total harvest of a species?

LC

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

SO a couple questions I am confused on with the 15% "magic number"

.....do things go on draw when bowhunter numbers hit 15% of the total number of hunters?

.....so in other words they sell bow permits to 15% of the people who buy hunting licenses and then that sets off warning bells?

.....or do things go on draw when bowhunting accounts for 15% of the total harvest of a species?

LC

Harvest

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

Harvest

Thanks that's what I figured.

LC

[Full Curl Earl]

TJ, I subtracted the number of Archery permits sold, from the total number of Resident Hunting Licenses sold to obtain a fair representation of bowhunters VS firearm hunters. Without personal contact with all purchasers, this should be the closest number. I re-checked my numbers and they seem in line, as well as the %, but I am no mathematician.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

Just kind of curious as to what everyone's thoughts are on the fact that this will be the last year of being able to buy a general Mule buck Tag in Alberta For Archery purposes?

Eitherway enjoy the General 2012 mulebuck season,because it's going to be the last!

I don't want to speak for Potty but above in post #1 the OP of this thread states the entire province is going on draw for Mule bucks....

So SRD must have determined somehow that every zone in the province hit the magic number...

LC

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I don't want to speak for Potty but above in post #1 the OP of this thread states the entire province is going on draw for Mule bucks....

So SRD must have determined somehow that every zone in the province hit the magic number...

LC

The wording in the proposal was that "many" WMUs are above 15% based on data collected begining in 2003. So no, ESRD has not determined that .

[KCL]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I don't want to speak for Potty but above in post #1 the OP of this thread states the entire province is going on draw for Mule bucks....

So SRD must have determined somehow that every zone in the province hit the magic number...

LC

If they do some I hope they do all in an area. Otherwise the WMU not on draw could get some serious pressure

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by KCL

If they do some I hope they do all in an area. Otherwise the WMU not on draw could get some serious pressure

EXACTLY!

This is what SRD did to moose!

For example: 348 from general to draw, everyone from 348....went to 507 (which is across a hwy), 507....to draw, everyone from there went to 337 & 338.....guess what it went to DRAW.

LC

[Toyota]

well, there are 200,000+ mulies in Alberta so i don't see why there changing it

Originally Posted by Toyota

well, there are 200,000+ mulies in Alberta so i don't see why there changing it

Where did you get that number? Last estimate I heard was about half that. That's less than one mule deer per hunter.

[MOAhunter]

Originally Posted by Toyota

well, there are 200,000+ mulies in Alberta so i don't see why there changing it

I'm real sure there's an even distribution of deer per WMU as well!

Wake up! Some WMUs draw as few as 5 tags.

http://www.mywildalberta.com/Hunting...e-13-2011B.pdf

Granted not all WMU's need to go to a draw, but some definitely do.

[flyguyd]

And some gave out as many as 1000 doe tags in 2010. that aint helping either