People that pee me off.

[gitrdun]

Often, we see new members that ask for help, be it reloading, firearm choices, scope choices, etc. A lot of us give our recommendations and experiences freely as we do enjoy the talk, the experiences, etc. But some of those that ask these questions never reply as to what their experiences were as to their results. Are these people unappreciative? Is this the way they were brought up? Seems very disrespectful for me. I was brought up differently. When someone helps you out, and you've spent 10 minutes on the internet asking for help, you should at least spend the time to acknowledge those that have helped you. Look you newbies, I'm not looking for adulation or for you to stretch out the red carpet if I've helped you with a firearm issue, but it sure would be nice for you to spend an equal amount of time acknowledging the fact that you've been helped out.

Bottom line is: when you ask for help, and it is freely given. Then the least that you could provide is your end results following the recommendations. Simple enough.

[bobinthesky]

I think it's a trademark of the "it's all about me" generation.

[Scott N]

or at least a "thank you" for the advise.

[double gun]

I had a guy pm me that he would be working around here and wanted to know some fishing spots. I suggested several, and he never even replied.

[catnthehat]

I occasionally get PM's and emails from people thanking me for helping them out with something, and it is super greatly appreciated!
Nothing gets your spirits up like knowing you did some good and helped someone out with an issue.
You don't actually expect it most times, but it is nice when t happens.

Cat

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by Scott N

or at least a "thank you" for the advise.

I don't even need a "thank you" Scott. But at least knowing that the advise that I gave a newbie had helped him out would be nice. Some of these guys come on here with 2 or 3 posts and ask for a fix with a magazine feeding issue. I help buddy out with a suggestion and then never hear from him again. Look, I'm not looking for someone to throw Gaterade on me nor give me addolations, but it sure would be nice to hear the final results.

At day's end, should someone who's been on here for a while based on their post count, I may help them. But if some dude comes on here with a 20 or so post count, well then....screw you.

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I occasionally get PM's and emails from people thanking me for helping them out with something, and it is super greatly appreciated!
Nothing gets your spirits up like knowing you did some good and helped someone out with an issue.
You don't actually expect it most times, but it is nice when t happens.

Cat

I get that Cat. There are some people who are just takers and not givers. I think that some people just canvass for info and then go away never to be seen again. I have no use for them.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

I get that Cat. There are some people who are just takers and not givers. I think that some people just canvass for info and then go away never to be seen again. I have no use for them.

Yeah, you'd think those types would hang around, but they seem to go just about as fast as the come here!
I have seen the same question by the same person many times on a few different forums.
Cat

[flyguyd]

Originally Posted by double gun

I had a guy pm me that he would be working around here and wanted to know some fishing spots. I suggested several, and he never even replied.

I feel your dissapointment , i have had the same over deer hunting info

[Heyupduck]

I'll say thanks for the information I have gleaned from all your wisdom form this forum. Came on here intending to research a 20 gauge, then felt I wanted a 22-250, but have decided I will likely be better off with a .243 (because of the flexibility)
There is also one I like the look of, A youth model Ruger American. Small and light, but should be able to pack a pretty good punch with the right load. I just need to figure out how much I want to spend on sights.
I am new on this forum, but I have been on the Chrysler minivan forum for a while using the name cb250rs
It is annoying when people ask for help, but don't reply. I don't really care about being thanked, but by not replying they are depriving other people of either the solution or a dead end.

Anyway, thanks again y'all

[Unregistered user]

It's all about relevance.

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by Heyupduck

I'll say thanks for the information I have gleaned from all your wisdom form this forum. Came on here intending to research a 20 gauge, then felt I wanted a 22-250, but have decided I will likely be better off with a .243 (because of the flexibility)
There is also one I like the look of, A youth model Ruger American. Small and light, but should be able to pack a pretty good punch with the right load. I just need to figure out how much I want to spend on sights.
I am new on this forum, but I have been on the Chrysler minivan forum for a while using the name cb250rs
It is annoying when people ask for help, but don't reply. I don't really care about being thanked, but by not replying they are depriving other people of either the solution or a dead end.

Anyway, thanks again y'all

Welcome to the forum Heyupduck. You are most welcomed to any information or help that we can provide. And as I said earlier, no need for thanks, applauds or what have you. A simple report on one's results in regards to the help given is all that's asked for.

[Talking moose]

Chrysler mini van forum? Lol. Guess there's a forum for everything...lol. Talking moose welcomes you!

[Sitting Bull]

Great post.
Rest assured, in my case I truly appreciate all the help I have recieved from all of you who respond to my posts and inquieries . Without the help of cat, bulletman your self and many others I certainly would not have learned as much as I have so far with re loading. As a matter of fact I probably would have gone back to off the shelf stuff. You guys have inspired me to try and develop a hobby that was out of my comfort zone and for that a big thank you. I still can't figure out if I have a problem with seating depth or not.
Do not be discouraged, some of us may just take you guys for granted and for sure that is not a good thing. And for sure knowing the outcome of suggestions to a problem is great for the asker and also good for the one giving the help or knowledge .
A big thank you from me.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

Often, we see new members that ask for help, be it reloading, firearm choices, scope choices, etc. A lot of us give our recommendations and experiences freely as we do enjoy the talk, the experiences, etc. But some of those that ask these questions never reply as to what their experiences were as to their results. Are these people unappreciative? Is this the way they were brought up? Seems very disrespectful for me. I was brought up differently. When someone helps you out, and you've spent 10 minutes on the internet asking for help, you should at least spend the time to acknowledge those that have helped you. Look you newbies, I'm not looking for adulation or for you to stretch out the red carpet if I've helped you with a firearm issue, but it sure would be nice for you to spend an equal amount of time acknowledging the fact that you've been helped out.

Bottom line is: when you ask for help, and it is freely given. Then the least that you could provide is your end results following the recommendations. Simple enough.

I really get where you are coming from. It would be nice to at least hear what the solution and fix turned out to be for so many of the questions that get posted. Even all the "what gun do I buy" ones, it would be kind of interesting to know what they bought and how they ended up liking it.

That said, I doubt the lack of responsiveness will change very much on this forum. There are two forums I participate in that are very specialised and the guys on it a far more inclined to report back on outcomes but they also have a more stable and consistent membership. With so many one posters I don't think this Forum will mature for a long time.

At least for me, I know I don't post near as much as I used to on here, particularly on questions from people with low post counts. There are two main reasons. Too many of the OPs just want to argue with the advice they receive, and as you rightly said there is very little being invested by many of the OPs. They haven't posted regular trying to contribute to the forum and they don't want to bother taking the time to report back either.

Not getting a response to questions by first time posters will seem unfriendly to those asking the questions but unfortunately those that have gone before them have soiled the ground.

[James 1]

We'll, I guess I am one of those newbie to reloading. But in my defence it seems like when I post a question and then when I finally get out and shoot takes a lot longer than I would like and then I don't want to dig up an old post.
That being done, I will say a big thankyou to everyone that helped me with load development on 2 rifles. One that is a tikka shooting 130gr accubonds 1.5" at 200 yards. The other is a 7mmRM shooting 160gr accubonds. My final load is a 61gr of imr4831. Here is some pics of the 7mm

[colroggal]

Some might not want to dig up old posts. In my case from time to time I just can't find the darn things.

But its like sending a thank you card when someone buys you a christmas present. We all live busier lives these days and sadly some of the nicities have been left by the wayside. Holding the door for the next person. Saying hi when you pass people on the street.

Not acknowledging someones advice on these forums is just another example of how the small things don't seem to matter anymore. I don't think its a generational thing. I don't know what it is. I'm 37 and I like to think I was raised right. But I see people in their fifties and sixties living in bubble worlds where no one else matters. I've also had 12 year old kids call me sir.

I just don't know.

Any case anyone who's helped me out without a kudos, thank you. Keep em coming and don't give up on them young'uns just yet.

Colin

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by double gun

I had a guy pm me that he would be working around here and wanted to know some fishing spots. I suggested several, and he never even replied.

I answered a post on Cold Lake area for fishing spots, techniques, lures used etc and got PM'd by a person who was rather upset with me

Like this forum and everything else in life you will meet people who are well very self centered etc at the end of the day I don't mind because they don't matter!

Oh yeah to those who have helped me in the past, present and future thank you very much...wife says I need all the help I can get!

[thumper]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

Often, we see new members that ask for help, be it reloading, firearm choices, scope choices, etc. A lot of us give our recommendations and experiences freely as we do enjoy the talk, the experiences, etc. But some of those that ask these questions never reply as to what their experiences were as to their results. ...
Bottom line is: when you ask for help, and it is freely given. Then the least that you could provide is your end results following the recommendations. Simple enough.

Amen to that Gitrdun. I've spent a fair amount of time gathering together information, directions, contact information and crafting a thorough response to inquiries, and seldom get even a short response back. Like quite a few members, I now seldom respond with a thorough response anymore, unless I know or recognize the OP.

[bigd]

I think you might be over reacting a bit. First off, it's not just new members that don't respond immediately with thanks and applause for all the brilliance on AO. Second off, not everyone here has the time to be on this forum for 12 hours a day/7 days a week like some around here...we have lives, jobs, families and numerous other FAR more important commitments to attend to. So questions asked here sometimes get lost in the complexities of non-AO forum life lol. They get forgotten as they likely rank fairly low and have little importance in the lives of most members.

I've tried to help others on this forum as well as several other forums. Rarely do I get the feedback that you seek. Doesn't bother me a bit. It's the internet lol, I wouldn't expect anything else. I suppose we are all different, with different needs, wants and priorities. To me, that's what makes this forum a good place to visit- not the amount of feedback and praise we receive for the advice we give.

Maybe we should come up with a system to track and score members on whether they report back when given advice...like the trader score system. Then when someone asks for advice, you could check their advice response feedback to help decide if that person is worthy of your advice based on their score? Perhaps we could also include feedback for all the crappy advice that gets handed out here too?

Mods?

[CaberTosser]

Its nice to receive thanks and/or reciprocal contributions of knowledge & experience when one offers a hand in some fashion, be it information or some actual hands on assistance. There will always be a contingent who don't fall into the polite category, but its easy enough to weed them out for subsequent cries for help, or to take that opportunity to educate them.

Reading the title by itself on the Guns & Ammo discussion header was inspiration for a bit of a laugh though, giving me thoughts of an 'Anti' reading it, imagining that the meat of the article would be a simple list: Hippies, Liberals, the Government, politicians by name, the police, the banks, big oil, etc etc,

[Flatlandliver]

Take satisfaction in the feeling you get helping others out.
If they reciprocate or not is up to them, dont let it bug you or stop you from doing what makes you feel good.
Might sound a little corny but giving is better then recieving.
Thank you BTW, lots of great advise has been given to me by lots of members.

[gitrdun]

Contrary to what some may believe, no one is looking for praise, applause nor big thank-yous and favouritism. And this "busy life" response is poor excuse for a lack of politeness. If one can spare a few moments to seek help, then he/she could spare a few more to report back on their results, good or bad. I for one will not stop helping those that I can because of a few that are sooooo busy.

[Flatlandliver]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

Contrary to what some may believe, no one is looking for praise, applause nor big thank-yous and favouritism. And this "busy life" response is poor excuse for a lack of politeness. If one can spare a few moments to seek help, then he/she could spare a few more to report back on their results, good or bad. I for one will not stop helping those that I can because of a few that are sooooo busy.

You are right of course, politeness and respect seem to be rarer these days. My point was you cant control what anyone does except yourself, so dont let it get you down and change who you are or what you do.

[Dan4570]

If i ask a question and someone helps me out on a forum. I will usually send them pms, its easier to send some dumb questions privatly than be flacked on a forum (which happens quite often on this forum from what ive seen)

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

I get that Cat. There are some people who are just takers and not givers. I think that some people just canvass for info and then go away never to be seen again. I have no use for them.

You sound bitter about it?? I confess that I seek information about my tractor on another forum, but I don't frequent the site. So I suspect a lot of these low post count people you refer to are probably that way with this site.

Forgive them, for they know not what they are missing. ;-)

[gitrdun]

Not bitter at all Canuck. Mere observations. I suppose I could have used better wording in the title though.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

Look you newbies, I'm not looking for adulation .

pssst... yes he is.


But I do agree with the Git'r. Thanks apart, would be nice to hear what happened or what you decided upon.

[Quinn]

Originally Posted by bobinthesky

I think it's a trademark of the "it's all about me" generation.

Doesn't surprise me one bit either. The sad truth is often these questions are asked on a weekly (if not more regular) bases...

I wouldn't say it's a generation. It's the majority of people these days. Most are likely 40 or less though.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I occasionally get PM's and emails from people thanking me for helping them out with something, and it is super greatly appreciated!
Nothing gets your spirits up like knowing you did some good and helped someone out with an issue.
You don't actually expect it most times, but it is nice when t happens.

Cat

you're one of the best on here. we've spoken on the phone because i was having ignition problems on one of my black powders. who else would do that?

on behalf of everyone thank-you because we probably haven't said it enough

i help when i can.