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Old 06-23-2015, 09:56 AM
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UFA sells Trillion ( Par 3) It is $128 for 10L jug. I believe you need a land location to buy it though. My lawn is weed free
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:16 AM
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Par 3 is incredible. Went from a weed patch to beautiful lawns in 2 applications.
OP how much area are you covering?
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:42 PM
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Par 3 is incredible. Went from a weed patch to beautiful lawns in 2 applications.
OP how much area are you covering?
what kind of a mix do you use. I followed the instructions on the jug and it doesn't seem to kill that well. Maybe a second is required on thick dandilions?
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:53 PM
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Par3 if you wanna save your grass, Maverick if you wanna kill everything
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:54 PM
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what kind of a mix do you use. I followed the instructions on the jug and it doesn't seem to kill that well. Maybe a second is required on thick dandilions?
I use 90-100ml for every 10L of water
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:08 PM
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73mls for 4 litres water.
1/55 rate of par 3 and has been working very well for years.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:12 PM
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To kill broadleaf AND grasses, roundup. To clean up your weedy lawn, trillion, par 3, or even 2-4d ester. Mix rate of 1litre per 10 gallons of water. Will control dandelions right now, but won't kill mature ones. Wait till fall after first hard frost and nail them
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:29 PM
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If you dont want to use a chemical solution consider FIRE. Take a tiger torch out into the back yard and (being safe and such) sear the weeds and cook the top layer of the soil.

A small soldering torch or the like works great for spot treatments and kills the ever loving daylights out of dandylions once the lawn is established. Good for the cracks in sidewalks too!

Use care and caution when burning things. It works great. Plus whom doesn't like FIRE!

I am not some organic hippy -- roundup will work too, but once your lawn is established a little fire is a great way to murder little plants.
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Old 06-24-2015, 04:35 AM
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Don't forget that for small areas or a few in the garden , side walks etc - you can use Deep Woods OFF !
Works well & fast.
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Old 06-24-2015, 08:46 AM
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Grazon....Agent White
^^^ This stuff is amazing. Annihilates everything but grass. Just don't go near trees and such.

I use about 1/5 the recommended usage and it lasts for a couple years and the weeds are browning the next day.

Pasture we sprayed 2 years ago is just now starting to have a few dandelions coming up.
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Old 06-24-2015, 08:58 AM
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^^^ This stuff is amazing. Annihilates everything but grass. Just don't go near trees and such.

I use about 1/5 the recommended usage and it lasts for a couple years and the weeds are browning the next day.

Pasture we sprayed 2 years ago is just now starting to have a few dandelions coming up.
Grazon is not designed to be a weed killer, it is specifically designed to control Brumble type weeds like sage brush, tumble weeds and invasive trees like poplar, willow and other bush growth in pasture. It does that just great. You also must be very careful not to get spray into ponds or water courses as it has a very bad effect on them.

For lawn and weeds, stick to Par3, far less likely to cause collateral damage.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:30 AM
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Grazon is not designed to be a weed killer, it is specifically designed to control Brumble type weeds like sage brush, tumble weeds and invasive trees like poplar, willow and other bush growth in pasture. It does that just great. You also must be very careful not to get spray into ponds or water courses as it has a very bad effect on them.

For lawn and weeds, stick to Par3, far less likely to cause collateral damage.
How effective is it for Caragana?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:37 AM
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How effective is it for Caragana?
It kills it very well. Might take a couple of applications due to the suckering nature and relatively small leaves but with them now in full leaf it will kill them off. (Best time to apply is Sept to late Nov)

Careful you don't get it on any tree or shrub you want to keep. In fact this stuff is so good a shrub killer that desirable shrubs can be negatively affected even by the pesticide being released from the roots of the treated bushes, if the good plants roots are nearby. In other words you don't necessarily have to get it directly onto the plant.

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Old 06-24-2015, 09:41 AM
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I get that people want to kill weeds and that's fine but as an aside, I wonder how much money has been spent over time trying to get rid of say, Dandelions for example. I never killed them in the country. Heck they look nice and pigs love them....
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:40 PM
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Grazon is not designed to be a weed killer, it is specifically designed to control Brumble type weeds like sage brush, tumble weeds and invasive trees like poplar, willow and other bush growth in pasture. It does that just great. You also must be very careful not to get spray into ponds or water courses as it has a very bad effect on them.

For lawn and weeds, stick to Par3, far less likely to cause collateral damage.
Very true. I did find restore to be more effective than grazon though. Dad was going to do some aerial spray on poplar suckers, 8L/acre was recommended
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:41 PM
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:49 PM
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If everything needs killing,definately roundup(from UFA) if just weeds,am a firm believer in grazon!
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Old 06-24-2015, 04:25 PM
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what kind of a mix do you use. I followed the instructions on the jug and it doesn't seem to kill that well. Maybe a second is required on thick dandilions?
Ufa told me to mix 30:1. It's been perfect. I'm covering about 1.75 acres of lawn. 2 quad sprayer sessions this year and the odd spot spray with a 2 gallon sprayer and I have zero dandelions growing. Far better than last years yellow flower gong show. The lawn was becoming hard and clumpy. Now the grass is taking over. Money well spent.
A side note: I had a landscape company tell me not to over dilute. Can't remember the reason. They said it was way more effective following label directions
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:16 PM
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:09 AM
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Just to throw another wrinkle into the conversation. The WHO just designated Round-up a carcinogen ( Cancer agent) this spring) Nice to see the forestry companies spraying all our wilderness with the stuff. PS does a good job on the weeds for replanting a lawn.
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:28 PM
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by mistake I used roundup spot spraying weeds. It then rained and all the grass around the weed was also killed. I then had a hard time getting grass to grow in those areas after. I put in new soil but it took over a year before grass would grow there again. live and learn
Strange, as Roundup is neutralized by soil.
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:29 PM
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Grazon is not designed to be a weed killer, it is specifically designed to control Brumble type weeds like sage brush, tumble weeds and invasive trees like poplar, willow and other bush growth in pasture. It does that just great. You also must be very careful not to get spray into ponds or water courses as it has a very bad effect on them.

For lawn and weeds, stick to Par3, far less likely to cause collateral damage.
Interesting as I was recommended graze on instead of par 3 due to animals grazing. Anyway might not be made for it but it is murder on weeds, clover, etc

Been careful with it in our inner yard and haven't killed anything yet but plan on using par 3 closer to other trees.
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sorry to bring back a new thread, but anyone want to split on a bottle of this PAR 3 or does anyone have any leftover they would like to sell. i don't have a land owners certificate so i wouldn't be able to purchase at UFA
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by mistake I used roundup spot spraying weeds. It then rained and all the grass around the weed was also killed. I then had a hard time getting grass to grow in those areas after. I put in new soil but it took over a year before grass would grow there again. live and learn
Your application rate was too high, that's why nothing would grow there after.

Oops I didn't realize this was an old thread.
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Your application rate was too high, that's why nothing would grow there after.



Oops I didn't realize this was an old thread.

Old thread or not.....round up will not affect future growth.
I've sprayed 1000s of gallons of the stuff.


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Old thread or not.....round up will not affect future growth.
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My mistake blgoodbrand. Perhaps there was a residual mixed in the instance I was thinking of.
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My mistake blgoodbrand. Perhaps there was a residual mixed in the instance I was thinking of.

Yup, that'd be my guess.


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My backyard is just a pile of dirt and weeds and I plan on sodding it soon. I will be tilling the ground and picking out as many weeds by hand as possible but I also want a strong weedkiller to make sure everything is dead but that wont ruin the ground long term. I was thinking about bleach but read it will change the PH of the ground which wouldn't be good for the new grass.

TLDR: I need a strong weedkiller that wont ruin the ground long term, theres no grass yet so I don't have to worry about it being selective.

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Rogue the weeds. best fix.
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