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10-31-2017, 11:24 AM
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About 1995 one of my BIL's and myself bought two of these from Phoenix Range for $80 each.
Great little 308's. Should have kept mine. His went to Iqaluit with him and he left it with the guys there when he came back. He said if he had brought a truck full of them he could have sold all of them The locals loved it. Not surprising.
Only issue with a "bush gun" is when you are walking to or from "the bush" you are usually on a cut line, pipeline or field. That's usually when Mr. 170" whitetail will show himself at 300+ yards. This is where a short light bolt action rifle with some reach comes in handy.
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10-31-2017, 11:48 AM
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When hunting in the bush where I do, I've never once said to myself, "gee I wish I had brought a bigger rifle" - I have said the opposite, many times.
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10-31-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32
Says you....you're painting a lot of guys with a real wide brush.
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And everyone else that understands the laws of physics. Many tests have been done shooting small fast bullets as opposed to large slow ones and both were virtually equal when it come to deflecting off of sticks. You are far better off avoiding them completely.
A good man on a bolt gun can shoot follow up shots every bit as fast as a lever or pump guy if accuracy is taken into account. What takes the time is getting on target after recoil not cycling the gun.
The advantage of a bush gun (if any) is going through real bush where you can barely squeeze through yourself let alone drag a pack of a rifle. There is very little jungle type bush in Alberta and very few would hunt it anyway. What people call bush in Alberta we use to call a clearing back in Nova Scotia.
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10-31-2017, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by double gun
When hunting in the bush where I do, I've never once said to myself, "gee I wish I had brought a bigger rifle" - I have said the opposite, many times.
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What? Animals too dead?
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10-31-2017, 12:19 PM
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Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by MK2750
What? Animals too dead?
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There is a difference between the words "rifle" and "cartridge". Perhaps you should read, and reread before you comment. The term "bush gun" has nothing to do with cartridge selection.
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10-31-2017, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MK2750
And everyone else that understands the laws of physics. Many tests have been done shooting small fast bullets as opposed to large slow ones and both were virtually equal when it come to deflecting off of sticks. You are far better off avoiding them completely.
A good man on a bolt gun can shoot follow up shots every bit as fast as a lever or pump guy if accuracy is taken into account. What takes the time is getting on target after recoil not cycling the gun.
The advantage of a bush gun (if any) is going through real bush where you can barely squeeze through yourself let alone drag a pack of a rifle. There is very little jungle type bush in Alberta and very few would hunt it anyway. What people call bush in Alberta we use to call a clearing back in Nova Scotia.
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I'm not arguing small/fast versus heavy/ slow bullets or bolt versus lever...you implied in your previous post that people using open sights should not be hunting big game in the bush. And if you think there is little "bush" in Alberta you haven't seen over half of this province.
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10-31-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32
I'm not arguing small/fast versus heavy/ slow bullets or bolt versus lever...you implied in your previous post that people using open sights should not be hunting big game in the bush. And if you think there is little "bush" in Alberta you haven't seen over half of this province.
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x2, "Very little jungle like bush in Alberta." LOL! I think that statement alone disqualifies this dude's opinion.
I've hunted the bush with a 22" barreled bolt gun, topped with a 2-7x scope for around 15 years now and its worked well enough that I've continued to use it while my model 94 and 7600 carbine have been sold. That said I think the combo could be tweaked a little better for my purposes, which I may as well do while I'm getting a lighter gun anyways.
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10-31-2017, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MK2750
And everyone else that understands the laws of physics. Many tests have been done shooting small fast bullets as opposed to large slow ones and both were virtually equal when it come to deflecting off of sticks. You are far better off avoiding them completely.
A good man on a bolt gun can shoot follow up shots every bit as fast as a lever or pump guy if accuracy is taken into account. What takes the time is getting on target after recoil not cycling the gun.
The advantage of a bush gun (if any) is going through real bush where you can barely squeeze through yourself let alone drag a pack of a rifle. There is very little jungle type bush in Alberta and very few would hunt it anyway. What people call bush in Alberta we use to call a clearing back in Nova Scotia.
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When you cycle a pump action it helps bring the gun back down on target... And a semi with peep sights will be way quicker getting back on target then a bolt regardless of sight but especially if someone is running a scope.
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10-31-2017, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32
I'm not arguing small/fast versus heavy/ slow bullets or bolt versus lever...you implied in your previous post that people using open sights should not be hunting big game in the bush. And if you think there is little "bush" in Alberta you haven't seen over half of this province.
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I didn't imply that, I would bet money I have shot as many deer with open sights than most any one on this forum. I have seen all of this Provence and most of the others. You obviously haven't been to the coastal forest.
What I implied is that it is much easier to see and avoid branches with an optic in brush.
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10-31-2017, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by raab
When you cycle a pump action it helps bring the gun back down on target... And a semi with peep sights will be way quicker getting back on target then a bolt regardless of sight but especially if someone is running a scope.
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Yeah, I have been shooting pumps for 40 years or so.
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10-31-2017, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushleague
x2, "Very little jungle like bush in Alberta." LOL! I think that statement alone disqualifies this dude's opinion.
I've hunted the bush with a 22" barreled bolt gun, topped with a 2-7x scope for around 15 years now and its worked well enough that I've continued to use it while my model 94 and 7600 carbine have been sold. That said I think the combo could be tweaked a little better for my purposes, which I may as well do while I'm getting a lighter gun anyways.
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Have you ever hunted New Brunswick, Nova Scotia or costal BC.? There is no jungle in this Provence that is even close.
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10-31-2017, 06:49 PM
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I used a 444 Marlin for decades. Tried a Rem 700 7MM Mag, 243 BLR, 375 H&H Ruger Tropical, and others. Nice guns, sold them, lever, peep, and big bore for me. Shoot a deer and eat almost to the hole, shoot a moose and he falls down.
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11-01-2017, 01:33 AM
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PPSP ... winchester ... no fail !!!!
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11-01-2017, 01:38 AM
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Rem 600 350 Rem Mag VX-3 1 1/2-5 Leupold model 7 stock, short handy rifle that packs a wallop
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Handsome ... nicer than fake wood with a red butt plate .... but the USRAC xtr's walnut and red butt plate's are oh so purdy !!!
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11-01-2017, 01:40 AM
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Another vote for the Remington model 600 in .350 rem mag . Love it!
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11-01-2017, 06:58 AM
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The best bush rifle is the one used in the bush.
The best great plains rifle is the one that works.
The multi purpose rifle works good in both situations.
It will only perform as good as the hands that hold it.
Some are wise or keen to this.
What's in your PRS challange of harvesting this year. LOL
Don at multi purpose use going forward
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11-01-2017, 08:28 AM
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Incase anyone cares... I just purchased a really nice Husqvarna lightweight carbine in 30-06. With a low powered scope I think it will be well suited to anything the big timber might throw at me, now to decide whether I will put my old 2-7x on it or try something different.
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11-01-2017, 08:30 AM
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Incase anyone cares... I just purchased a really nice Husqvarna lightweight carbine in 30-06. With a low powered scope I think it will be well suited to anything the big timber might throw at me, now to decide whether I will put my old 2-7x on it or try something different.
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Nice guns, those Huskys! Is it a Crown Grade?
Your 2-7 will be perfect for it
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11-01-2017, 09:52 AM
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Nice guns, those Huskys! Is it a Crown Grade?
Your 2-7 will be perfect for it
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I don't think its a Crown Grade, its got checkering on the forestock and nicer wood than many of the Husky's I've seen. No tip on the fore stock however, not sure whether a Crown Grade Lightweight would have that or not.
So if anyone wants a well maintained laminate/stainless Ruger M77, I'll probably have one for sale after the season is over. Shoots like a dream, she's a little hefty though
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11-01-2017, 10:04 AM
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Awesome find on the Huzoo. Super fun rifles.
I sold my M77 this summer, mine was the short barrel laminate Ought-6.
I would of kept mine but a good deal came along on another rifle I couldn't turn down.
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11-01-2017, 10:12 AM
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Incase anyone cares... I just purchased a really nice Husqvarna lightweight carbine in 30-06. With a low powered scope I think it will be well suited to anything the big timber might throw at me, now to decide whether I will put my old 2-7x on it or try something different.
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My 9422 rides a 2-7 scope .... great combo ... Want it on my other's ... but don't wanna frick with sucseess !!!
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11-01-2017, 05:48 PM
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Started my deer hunting career with a borrowed(uncle's) 94 in 30-30 w/buckhorn sights....for a pure bush gun where shots rarely exceed 100y,I'd say it's pretty hard to beat.
That said,been carrying the same Rem 760 in 30-06 since the following year(31 years ago) most of that huntn in the thick bush back east with the ability to reach out and touch stuff in cutblocks,cornfields,powerlines and moose bogs etc...fast follow ups on the rare occasion that required one,it's taken a reefer van full of deer,moose,bears,yotes,coons,chickens ...you name it?
I've owned and used successfully several other rifles over the years but always seem to go back to the ol'06.
Now that I'm a "little bit" more financially stable,I've gained an appreciation for finer rifles,but I'll always keep the old meatslayer,might get it cut down to carbine length and restored?
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11-04-2017, 08:46 AM
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My favourite guns for bush hunting are:
Remington 7600 in .243 with iron sights
Remington 742 in .308 just need to get a scope for it when my girlfriend gets her scope on her own rifle.
Remington 700 VTR I fitted on to a walnut stock and have a Leupold Rifleman
2-7x33 scope. I cut off the brake too. Built this rifle just for bear hunting
Mauser in 6.5x55 swede. Replaced the irons and it shoots great. Don't use very much but such a nice gun to operate.
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11-04-2017, 12:49 PM
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11-04-2017, 04:55 PM
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I've been searching for the perfect bush gun for awhile....
I think the Ruger Gunsite Scout is about as great as you can get, but I haven't landed one yet. I'm content with my Ruger All-Weather Compact in 308. It's super light, tough, reliable, and reaches out to 300 yards no problem.
http://www.ruger.com/products/Hawkey...ct/models.html- 16.5" Stainless Barrel
- Really solid scope mounts (but proprietary, that means no rails!)
- Excellent safety (3 points, allows you to cycle the bolt while safety is on, OR, lock it in place)
Of course, the CZ527 makes a nimble little rifle too, but you're limited under 200 yards. It's also not as "tough" as the Ruger...
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02-03-2018, 10:33 PM
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I love my Ruger Scout Rifle, its a great bush gun.
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02-04-2018, 07:35 AM
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My first choice for a bush gun is my Browning 86 carbine in 45/70 followed by my winchester (miroku) 95 carbine in 30/06 and my Savage 2400 in 12ga/308
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02-04-2018, 08:45 AM
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Tikka Battue in 9.3x62 topped with VX2 2-7x33
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02-04-2018, 12:14 PM
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Mosin carbine M38....
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02-04-2018, 01:34 PM
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BB Gun
I would have to say most of us started with a old bb gun. Lots of good fun there.
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