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Old 04-17-2018, 02:20 PM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/4150183/opp-gun-amnesty/

The plan......just ask them to turn in their guns.
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:56 PM
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They also say more than 5,200 pieces of ammunition have been surrendered, including a quantity of hollow-point bullets.

The horror..........

Think of the children!!!
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:59 PM
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I'm curious as to why they wont allow anonymous drop offs? You would think that they might get more guns off the streets if they allowed that.
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:23 PM
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They check to see if the guns have been reported stolen or used in a crime if they get a hit somebody's got some explaining to do.
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:25 PM
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I did not realize hollow point bullets were sacrilegious! What a crock of BS! . I suppose using the term hollow point is better at grabbing the imagination of the
Scared to death , here is more money for your efforts, for the barn burning wrong doers! Like PT Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute , And this is why there is no end to the anti gun diatribe! What a world we live in .
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:38 PM
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Someone probably turned in a brick of 22 hollow point ammo they found in grampa's garage after he passed away.
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Old 04-17-2018, 04:05 PM
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Well got to hand it to the RCMP and the libs. They got all 270 guns off the streets. The streets of Toronto will be much safer now.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:27 PM
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I can almost guarantee that they have prevented zero crime. Well done.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:46 PM
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I can almost guarantee that they have prevented zero crime. Well done.
It might have prevented someone from carrying a gun with one of those live rounds in the chamber.
Some would argue that's a crime.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:29 PM
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I can almost guarantee that they have prevented zero crime. Well done.
The idea in itself might prevent a crime if they were to allow annonomous drop offs. This tells me they aren’t interested in stopping any crimes but rather just taking guns away from ordinary people.
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:36 PM
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The argument that I have heard on more than one occasion is that the antis know that we legal gun owners are not a problem ourselves. It is that we are just too darned untrustworthy in our storage habits and inevitably our guns end up in the hands of gangs. If no legal gun owners, then no access to guns for the gangs. Simple.
With amnesty it get the old people with the Winchester model 94 behind the furnace to bring it in.
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:07 PM
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I'm thinking of having my own amnesty....
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:42 AM
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So apparently, all the "honest" crooks have turned in their firearms? What a useless media space-filler!
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:02 AM
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Tell all the criminals they have a one-time chance to stop lying and stealing...that'll fix 'em.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:54 AM
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I can almost guarantee that they have prevented zero crime. Well done.
Yup paint a picture of ignorance for the common folks and they get a warm fuzzy that all can rest safely now because the criminals gave up thier weapons.....chocolate milk comes from a brown cow....we all know that
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:46 AM
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OPP say as of Monday, it had received 218 gun amnesty calls and officers picked up 267 items, including restricted, prohibited, replica, and vintage weapons.

What's a vintage weapon?

Sparse details on the actual break-down of types
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:02 AM
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What an absolute joke.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:17 AM
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It might have prevented someone from carrying a gun with one of those live rounds in the chamber.
Some would argue that's a crime.

Some would argue that that's the definition of hunting.







It's all about creating a warm, "I'm safer now" feeling among the ignorant. Nothing more.

Another example of this is the airport security facade.

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Old 04-18-2018, 08:41 AM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/4150183/opp-gun-amnesty/

I can almost guarantee that they have prevented zero crime.
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The plan......just ask them to turn in their guns.
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So apparently, all the "honest" crooks have turned in their firearms? What a useless media space-filler!
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Yup paint a picture of ignorance for the common folks and they get a warm fuzzy that all can rest safely now because the criminals gave up their weapons.
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Tell all the criminals they have a one-time chance to stop lying and stealing...that'll fix 'em.
The article is simply reporting factual statistics and makes zero mention of criminals, crime reduction, safer streets, etc.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:25 AM
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I have no issue with this at all.
First...I totally agree that not one of these guns was turned in by a criminal.
On the other hand I'll bet all of them were guns that have been found in someones recently deceased grandfathers garage...who didn't want them and has no idea of what to do with them and likely thinks that because they don't have a PAL are now paper criminals.
Nothing at all wrong with allowing them to bring in these guns instead of them storing them and thinking they are doing so illegally (which they would be doing).
But of course common sense reasoning isn't appreciated on AO.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:58 AM
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The article is simply reporting factual statistics and makes zero mention of criminals, crime reduction, safer streets, etc.
Considering this program is organized and run by the police who we employ with our tax dollars to catch criminals, reduce crime and make our streets safer, some of us may have foolishly assumed there would be some connection.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:04 AM
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I have no issue with this at all.
First...I totally agree that not one of these guns was turned in by a criminal.
On the other hand I'll bet all of them were guns that have been found in someones recently deceased grandfathers garage...who didn't want them and has no idea of what to do with them and likely thinks that because they don't have a PAL are now paper criminals.
Nothing at all wrong with allowing them to bring in these guns instead of them storing them and thinking they are doing so illegally (which they would be doing).
But of course common sense reasoning isn't appreciated on AO.
It is a way to confiscate valuable personal property using fear mongering. If not for the ridiculous controls on firearm ownership and all the social media BS, these people could simply take their personal property to any gun shop and consign them with out the fear of prosecution.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:24 AM
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It is a way to confiscate valuable personal property using fear mongering. If not for the ridiculous controls on firearm ownership and all the social media BS, these people could simply take their personal property to any gun shop and consign them with out the fear of prosecution.
Gotta loosen the tinfoil hat there.
I've given advice to more than a couple of people over the years that have come in possession of firearms through deaths in the family who had no idea what to do with them and were fearful that they were somehow breaking the law.
This is exactly who this is aimed at.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:36 AM
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I see this as 100% PR. The police want to appear as though they are reducing crime and making sociery safer at the same time, even though this will in no way make society safer, or reduce crime.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:46 AM
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Gotta loosen the tinfoil hat there.
I've given advice to more than a couple of people over the years that have come in possession of firearms through deaths in the family who had no idea what to do with them and were fearful that they were somehow breaking the law.
This is exactly who this is aimed at.
Then why not just advise the fine folks that it is perfectly legal to consign their personal property rather than scaring them into having it destroyed for no reason other than PR like Elk mentioned
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:53 PM
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They also say more than 5,200 pieces of ammunition have been surrendered, including a quantity of hollow-point bullets.

The horror..........

Think of the children!!!
Think of the 22 shells
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:06 AM
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Relax, boys. Nothing to see here. Another fake news post here on AO.

This program happens every couple of years and every couple of years people turn in guns that pappy had stored in the closet, in the basement whatever. Pappy is gone now and they are collecting dust. Lots of people dont know what to do with them.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:08 AM
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Relax, boys. Nothing to see here. Another fake news post here on AO.

This program happens every couple of years and every couple of years people turn in guns that pappy had stored in the closet, in the basement whatever. Pappy is gone now and they are collecting dust. Lots of people dont know what to do with them.
Stop being reasonable...it upsets all the paranoid AO'ers
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:41 AM
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Every police department is running a perpetual gun amnesty program, it’s only every so often that they bother advertising them.
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