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09-04-2021, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
It was a reliable little truck, but I discovered that I really needed a full sized truck, especially when I decided to buy a snowmobile and a boat, and start towing a trailer. I wasn't overly thrilled to buy a Ford, but I grew tired of waiting for the new Tundra , that kept getting delayed.
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I held out with high hopes. Still driving my 2007 I bought new in April 07. Really disappointed they are going V6. No idea what to but now ? Run this one into the ground and see if anything interesting comes along.
Don’t care about mileage.
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09-04-2021, 11:00 AM
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Just got back from visiting my dad on the island. Fuel economy was
Calgary -> Kamloops 7.8 l/100km
Kamloops -> Courtenay 8.5 l/100km
Courtenay -> Kamloops 9.1 l/100km
Kamloops -> Calgary 8.1 l/100km
2016 Mitsubishi Outlander w/ 3.0l V6. Mitsubishi calls it a SUV, I call it a car with half decent clearance. They also say it is an 8 passenger vehicle, but you would have to really dislike the people you were putting in the third row of seats, we leave them folded down for cargo space.
I explain the differences in fuel economy with two factors
1 - going from 1,200m elevation down to sea level vs back up on the return trip
2 - my wife was driving more on the return trip
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09-06-2021, 09:20 AM
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1999 Dodge 1500 4x4 5.9 Magnum 3.54 ratio. I ran Calgary to Edmonton and back on Saturday. Got 13.7 L/100 km mid grade running 120 to 130 kph. This is better than I expected, thought that the rust holes would make for more air resistance.
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09-06-2021, 09:29 AM
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That isn't too bad for an old 360. They weren't known for their fuel efficiency. Strong motors but thirsty.
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12-04-2021, 12:02 PM
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Thread update now that I have some mileage figures for the new Ram 2500, with the 6.4 hemi.
I run 89 Octane in the summer as I get about 15% better mileage in hot weather. In cooler to cold weather, the 87 octane provides the same mileage as the 89 so I burn 87.
First Highway trip with the new truck, just for a run.
Did another run coming back from GP, with about 6500 Klms on the truck. Gas mileage is still improving.
Running with no trailer and scale weighed at 9,800 pounds, 2021 Ram with 6.4 and 3.73s, did a test run a few days ago. Reset the Evic each time we changed the primary direction of travel, heading east 40 mph wind out of the SW hitting on right rear corner, 19 mpg, turned south Wind now hitting right front corner and strong enough to move you around in the lane when it gusted, 14.8 mpg, then headed south SE, wind almost directly on the tailgate, 22 mpg.
So with 7000 klms on the truck, city, highway and about 3500 k hunting on real bad roads in 4x4 both low and high range the hand tabulated average all all fills currently sits at 16.35 mpg. Best mileage. 22.2 mpg over 500 km, worst 12.2, 400 klms with 350 in low range the other 50 in high range. That is a 60% improvement overall on my V10 under similar use parameters. Didn't really buy it for improved gas mileage but it certainly is a nice fringe benefit.
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12-04-2021, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
Thread update now that I have some mileage figures for the new Ram 2500, with the 6.4 hemi.
I run 89 Octane in the summer as I get about 15% better mileage in hot weather. In cooler to cold weather, the 87 octane provides the same mileage as the 89 so I burn 87.
First Highway trip with the new truck, just for a run.
Did another run coming back from GP, with about 6500 Klms on the truck. Gas mileage is still improving.
Running with no trailer and scale weighed at 9,800 pounds, 2021 Ram with 6.4 and 3.73s, did a test run a few days ago. Reset the Evic each time we changed the primary direction of travel, heading east 40 mph wind out of the SW hitting on right rear corner, 19 mpg, turned south Wind now hitting right front corner and strong enough to move you around in the lane when it gusted, 14.8 mpg, then headed south SE, wind almost directly on the tailgate, 22 mpg.
So with 7000 klms on the truck, city, highway and about 3500 k hunting on real bad roads in 4x4 both low and high range the hand tabulated average all all fills currently sits at 16.35 mpg. Best mileage. 22.2 mpg over 500 km, worst 12.2, 400 klms with 350 in low range the other 50 in high range. That is a 60% improvement overall on my V10 under similar use parameters. Didn't really buy it for improved gas mileage but it certainly is a nice fringe benefit.
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18.3mpg based on yankee 3.78L gallon is 22mpg on our 4.54L, thats not shabby.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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12-04-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
18.3mpg based on yankee 3.78L gallon is 22mpg on our 4.54L, thats not shabby.
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The readout is Imperial MPG. Neat thing about the Ram is I can choose metric, imperial mpg or yankee MPG. Still not bad for a big truck with not great aerodynamics. Way better than I expected actually.
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12-04-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
The readout is Imperial MPG. Neat thing about the Ram is I can choose metric, imperial mpg or yankee MPG. Still not bad for a big truck with not great aerodynamics. Way better than I expected actually.
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That's cool. Cannot pick that with Ford, and the idiot engineers removed the litres used guage, which was so helpful.
I always do a km/L math then check against the mileage guage, and they are very close. In June I will put some miles on the new truck, it has 749km and will stay that way until the snow is gone.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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12-04-2021, 01:42 PM
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I have 18,000km on my F150 with the 3.5, my mileage averaged around 11.3l/100km(25mpg IMP) in summer, and is now about around 11.7l/100km(24mpg IMP) in combined driving. I use 87 octane fuel year round.
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12-04-2021, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
I have 18,000km on my F150 with the 3.5, my mileage averaged around 11.3l/100km(25mpg IMP) in summer, and is now about around 11.7l/100km(24mpg IMP) in combined driving. I use 87 octane fuel year round.
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That is really good mileage for a full size pickup. Makes it almost no penalty to drive one.
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12-05-2021, 12:00 PM
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12000 kms on my 21 trail boss with 6.2 and 10 speed and at 15.9 l/100 lifetime. That’s a shade under 18 mpg
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12-05-2021, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gade81
12000 kms on my 21 trail boss with 6.2 and 10 speed and at 15.9 l/100 lifetime. That’s a shade under 18 mpg
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That is a great average for a 6.2, even in a 1500. I would presume there is a lot of highway miles in that 12,000 KMs.
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12-06-2021, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
That is a great average for a 6.2, even in a 1500. I would presume there is a lot of highway miles in that 12,000 KMs.
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No sir, almost none. I’m almost exclusively on gravel and short trips, stop and go constantly. It’s a farm truck and treated as such. My previous 2015 5.3 was at about 18.5 l/100 when I sold it. Given that included all winter driving as well when it always gets worse and more towing on avg as well.
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12-06-2021, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
The readout is Imperial MPG.
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Bah! Imperial doesn't count!
(sorry, that was always pet peeve of mine! I used to do mileage-enhancement experimentation when I was younger and dumber...)
Great mileage, though! Thanks for the update, Dean2.
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12-06-2021, 10:56 AM
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I've got some interesting numbers out of my Colorado so far. I've got a little under 3000km on it so it's not quite broken in but it's already getting a bit better. Given that it's a NA v6 its far from good though, no surprise. I'm actually doing a bit better than the published figures of 15/100 city, 13 highway.
Average driving around town is 13 l/100km and it's not a lot better on the highway, I haven't seen it go below 12.5. One hunting trip from Calgary to 45 min east of Blackfalds the average was over 15 because of a headwind. Take that little engine add a lift and 31s and that's what you get I guess.
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12-06-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gade81
No sir, almost none. I’m almost exclusively on gravel and short trips, stop and go constantly. It’s a farm truck and treated as such. My previous 2015 5.3 was at about 18.5 l/100 when I sold it. Given that included all winter driving as well when it always gets worse and more towing on avg as well.
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I'll confirm SLT 6.2/ 10 speed. My '19 has accumulated 16000km so far - gravel around the farm - big trip is 10 km to town - 13 to 15 l/100. 2 trips to 3 Hills seed plant - 95 to 105 km/hr - 9.0 l/100. Beat that to Cremona recently, amazing compared to old 350. But, with big V8, big rad and trans cooler, it is made to pull. Put the small 5th wheel camper behind and pulls more responsive than my DMax, but more thirsty.
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12-06-2021, 02:47 PM
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My new Full size Chevy with the Diesel is KILLING it.. 90 litres.. just over a 1000KM. Mostly city driving with a trip to Nanton x2.
This is amazing. Its like fuel is free!!
I have heard once its broke in that solid highway driving might see as much as 1200 KM to 90 litres. in a FULL SIZE crew cab, 4x4.. Though I think the extremely sexy Dark Cherry color is helping..
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12-06-2021, 04:13 PM
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I have a 2021 chevy 3500 HD 4 x 4 with the 6.6lt duramax, it just rolled over 20,000 km and lifetime it sits at 15.4 lt/100 so 18.5 MPG which I am totally happy with.
Out of that 20,000 km over 3,000 km was towing my 22' enclosed trailer, 6" extra height with my S x S and hunting camp in it only 7,000 lb all in but still up there in the wind, unfortunately on Sept 15 when we headed for GP we pushed a NW wind at 40km gusting to 60km all the way 770 km, the duramax would pull it against the wind as fast as I wanted to go but it liked it's fuel 31.5 lt/100 that day, on the way home 3 weeks later with no wind 20.2 lt/100 wind makes a huge difference.
In the long run if your going to drive a 3500 HD with the duramax in it you really should not expect to be getting 25 MPG, ordinary highway driving empty it runs about 11.5 lt/100, one trip to Calgary and back this summer over 1450 km it averaged 10.1 lt /100 all highway driving.
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12-07-2021, 08:49 AM
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Based on those numbers you are getting about 10 mpg. Even for a 1998 that is really bad mileage. My 1996 8 litre V10 does 15 highway and 12 around town and it puts out 300 horse and 450 FT Lbs of Torque. Now depending on how much you drive the pickup it may not matter. That and you can buy a whole bunch of gas for the 50,000 it would take to replace it. Even if you triple your gas mileage you will never break even. Over 300,000 Klms at 10 mpg gas costs 11,054, at 30 miles per gallon it cost 3685, saving you 7,350. That means it would take you more than 2 million kilometres for the gas savings to pay for a new truck. It is why gas mileage isn't really one of my major considerations when looking at vehicles.
Waldew, that is great gas mileage out of a Jeep. The new ones really do seem to turn in much better mileage than those made ten years ago.
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I think you missed a decimal point Dean....quick calculations look like your gas costs for 300,000 km are closer to $100,000 for the 10 mpg rig, not $11,000. You might want to check and correct???
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12-07-2021, 09:00 AM
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I think you missed a decimal point Dean....quick calculations look like your gas costs for 300,000 km are closer to $100,000 for the 10 mpg rig, not $11,000. You might want to check and correct???
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Good catch, you are right, slipped a digit. Long and short, it still takes 300,000 Klms to save $73,000 and there aren't many pickups doing 30 mpg, so it will take a lot longer than that. At 20 mpg, about 400,000.
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01-01-2022, 10:21 AM
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I recently bought a 2009 Ram 2500, 5.7 Hemi as a band aid solution since my diesel died. It is an absolute pig on gas. It burns as much or more gas running around empty as my 2007 Cummins did pulling a big gooseneck loaded to the teeth.
Overhead is currently reading like 23 litres per 100 km.
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01-01-2022, 01:44 PM
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Rented a 2021 Toyota 4 Runner SR5 4.0l V6 last week in Calgary for a trip to Fort Mac and back
Cruise control set for 5km over posted limits. Due to road and weather conditions kept it in 4HI.
OEM tires were Dunlop Grandtrek AT20's-no bueno-Rental agent checked tread depth before and after.
Quite liked the vehicle, just not those tires
13.3L per 100km
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In this ugly weather my 2013 f150 ecopoof is stuck on 12.9
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-01-2022, 01:56 PM
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Dean how does your truck weigh 9800lbs?
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01-01-2022, 02:08 PM
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Dean how does your truck weigh 9800lbs?
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Well, with just me, and a full tank of gas, the winch, canopy and the gear I carry all the time it scales at 8200. Add a quad, 500, another guy, 210, plus all the gear for 2 weeks out hunting, not hard to add another 1600 lbs. More guys should run their vehicles across the highway scales.. it is free. You will be amazed at how heavy you are versus what the specs say your curb weight should be.
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01-01-2022, 02:10 PM
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Well, with just me, and a full tank of gas, the winch, canopy and the gear I carry all the time it scales at 8200. Add a quad, 500, another guy, 210, plus all the gear for 2 weeks out hunting, not hard to add another 1600 lbs. More guys should run their vehicles across the highway scales.. it is free. You will be amazed at how heavy you are versus what the specs say your curb weight should be.
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Gotcha! Makes sense now. I weigh trucks regularly for tare #s. I had to ask!
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01-01-2022, 05:48 PM
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New tundra as of 2 weeks ago. First 2 tanks at about 19.5L/100
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01-01-2022, 06:00 PM
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When it's -35 and your warming up and idling more it's really hard to get good mileage, even on the hiway when it's this cold I find both my vehicles use more fuel, the last tank in my duramax was over 19 mostly around town and a couple trips out to vermillion so maybe 200 km hiway
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01-01-2022, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by waldedw
When it's -35 and your warming up and idling more it's really hard to get good mileage, even on the hiway when it's this cold I find both my vehicles use more fuel, the last tank in my duramax was over 19 mostly around town and a couple trips out to vermillion so maybe 200 km hiway
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Definitely, they all burn more fuel in the cold weather.
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01-02-2022, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gade81
New tundra as of 2 weeks ago. First 2 tanks at about 19.5L/100
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That is about 14.5 Imperial mpg, so isn't even as good as I get with a longbox Ram 2500 with a 6.4 litre gas motor. It is around 2/3s the mileage the the other guys posting on here are seeing with their gas 1500 Fords, Chevs and Dodges. Sure hope it gets better for you as it breaks in.
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Originally Posted by tool
I recently bought a 2009 Ram 2500, 5.7 Hemi as a band aid solution since my diesel died. It is an absolute pig on gas. It burns as much or more gas running around empty as my 2007 Cummins did pulling a big gooseneck loaded to the teeth.
Overhead is currently reading like 23 litres per 100 km.
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The old 5.7s weren't known for great mileage, but even at that, I think there has to be something wrong with yours. That is 12 mpg so unless the EVIC is wrong or you are doing a lot of idling it should be at least in the 16l/100 range.
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