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I am going to be very interested to see what the new Dodge 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi does for gas mileage, if it ever finally gets here. Was built June 26th and still shows in transit. Dodge doesn't post any EPA estimates for their 2500 and larger trucks.
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Hopefully the 6.4 is an improvement over the 5.7 in their pickups, the only manufacturer that offers less mileage in full sized pickups with 350-400hp gas engines, is Toyota, and their 2022, will change that drastically.
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I've never thought of hand calculating mileage vs what my vehicles say. 1 mpg difference at 33 mpg doesn't seem too out of line to me. What difference do you usually see? My Silverado with 35s is doing around 120 km/h when it says it's doing around 110 km/h. I like how it keeps my total mileage lower than it really is
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Most of those displays on pickups are known as lie-o-meters.
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08-16-2021, 12:04 PM
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We drove to Whistler a couple weeks ago. Left Canmore with a full tank and drove 800/km and filled up just outside Pemberton, which took just over 27L.
3.4l/100km or 69mpg
2018 Prius Prime. Was able to fully charge 3 times while driving on the way, coming down mountain passes. Even with gas at 1.67/L in Pemberton, we were able to drive to Whistler for just over $45
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I've been looking at the rav4 prime because of the system. I'll hold off till the chip shortae brings prices down though. I have heard phenominal things about maintenance of the prius. As in, cheapest vehicle on the road over the long haul...
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08-16-2021, 12:28 PM
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I just did 2,464km round trip Edmonton to osooyos in our 2017 explorer. We got 9.3L per 100km. I actually think the mileage is getting better the closer to 100,000km we get and it is not the eco boost.
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08-16-2021, 01:52 PM
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Whatever happened to the Tacoma, elk? It seems like you just bought it a year or two ago and were pretty happy with it (or maybe time flies and it wasn’t a year or two ago, lol).
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08-16-2021, 02:42 PM
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Whatever happened to the Tacoma, elk? It seems like you just bought it a year or two ago and were pretty happy with it (or maybe time flies and it wasn’t a year or two ago, lol).
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It was a reliable little truck, but I discovered that I really needed a full sized truck, especially when I decided to buy a snowmobile and a boat, and start towing a trailer. I wasn't overly thrilled to buy a Ford, but I grew tired of waiting for the new Tundra , that kept getting delayed.
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08-16-2021, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
I am going to be very interested to see what the new Dodge 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi does for gas mileage, if it ever finally gets here. Was built June 26th and still shows in transit. Dodge doesn't post any EPA estimates for their 2500 and larger trucks.
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I have a 2020 dodge with the 6.4 for work. Seem to get about 13mpg (us gallons). I also drive a little more aggressively in that truck. Has power for days and sounds pretty mean when you give it the onion but has always had a high-pitched noise at idle. Almost sounds like a bearing on the fan is loose. Can’t complain as it’s the nicest/newest truck I’ve had for work!
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08-16-2021, 06:21 PM
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I have a 2020 dodge with the 6.4 for work. Seem to get about 13mpg (us gallons). I also drive a little more aggressively in that truck. Has power for days and sounds pretty mean when you give it the onion but has always had a high-pitched noise at idle. Almost sounds like a bearing on the fan is loose. Can’t complain as it’s the nicest/newest truck I’ve had for work!
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Good to know. That is about 16 mpg Imperial, so better than my current V10. Not stellar mileage by any stretch but we don't buy 2500 4x4s for their gas mileage. They really are very nice pickups. I also looked at the GMC and the Dodge was head and shoulders better for cab layout, materials and finish. The Fords were close but still not as plush as the Dodge.
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08-16-2021, 06:34 PM
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I've been looking at the rav4 prime because of the system. I'll hold off till the chip shortae brings prices down though. I have heard phenominal things about maintenance of the prius. As in, cheapest vehicle on the road over the long haul...
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We've put over 73K on it and no complaints. My research also showed it has one of the the lowest costs of ownership of any car. I just filled up at Costco today - the trip odometer was at 970km and it cost me 34$ to fill. Because Alberta's electricity rates are among the lowest in Canada, charging it at home costs me a little over a penny/km.
I also have my eye on the Rav 4 Prime. Due to it's electric range of 75km, it qualifies for the $5000 federal rebate. But I'm also giving it a year or two as I want to see how the VW ID all-electric series of vehicles shakes down in Canada. I used to own a 1989 VW Westfalia camper van and now have my eye on this:
https://www.caranddriver.com/volkswa...-buzz-microbus - AWD and 300+HP
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08-16-2021, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
It was a reliable little truck, but I discovered that I really needed a full sized truck, especially when I decided to buy a snowmobile and a boat, and start towing a trailer. I wasn't overly thrilled to buy a Ford, but I grew tired of waiting for the new Tundra , that kept getting delayed.
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Haha. That’ll do it!
Hope the Ford will treat you well!
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08-16-2021, 07:24 PM
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Looks like a mean machine!
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08-16-2021, 09:24 PM
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I drive an ancient 1998 f150 with a 5.4 2v, the even more gutless 235hp 330 tq version and haven’t measured it yet but I know its bad. 414km to a tank and over 100 dollar fillups keeps me driving my equally ancient 98 Accord.
Next round home I will measure, but I already know getting anywhere near or above 20mpg like you guys is not happening. 25-26 out of a fullsize truck is great mpg...
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08-16-2021, 09:35 PM
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Good to know. That is about 16 mpg Imperial, so better than my current V10. Not stellar mileage by any stretch but we don't buy 2500 4x4s for their gas mileage. They really are very nice pickups. I also looked at the GMC and the Dodge was head and shoulders better for cab layout, materials and finish. The Fords were close but still not as plush as the Dodge.
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Haha I wouldn’t know on the fit n finish. You know work trucks, lowest trim level possible. The dodge i have is pretty basic. So far I’ve had one drivers door panel replaced under warranty after it split in half when I opened the door. I have a sensor on the fuel fill line getting replaced in September that throws an emissions check engine light and there’s some weird gremlin in the radio they can’t fix that wont let me turn it on or off at ransoms times. Perhaps a higher level trim is better equipped.
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08-16-2021, 09:45 PM
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Haha I wouldn’t know on the fit n finish. You know work trucks, lowest trim level possible. The dodge i have is pretty basic. So far I’ve had one drivers door panel replaced under warranty after it split in half when I opened the door. I have a sensor on the fuel fill line getting replaced in September that throws an emissions check engine light and there’s some weird gremlin in the radio they can’t fix that wont let me turn it on or off at ransoms times. Perhaps a higher level trim is better equipped.
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Regardless of the trim level, it sounds like they have some issues in quality control.
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08-16-2021, 10:06 PM
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Just did a pretty good trip with my V8 4runner, only bothered calculating the first tank but came out to 11.7L/100km which is pretty acceptable for a lifted AWD V8 on 285s.
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08-17-2021, 05:54 AM
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The wife's jeep Cherokee with the 3.6lt in it runs about 8.0 lt/100 on the highway so 35 MPG have had trips where it's better but that's about the average.
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08-17-2021, 08:25 AM
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I drive an ancient 1998 f150 with a 5.4 2v, the even more gutless 235hp 330 tq version and haven’t measured it yet but I know its bad. 414km to a tank and over 100 dollar fillups keeps me driving my equally ancient 98 Accord.
Next round home I will measure, but I already know getting anywhere near or above 20mpg like you guys is not happening. 25-26 out of a fullsize truck is great mpg...
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Based on those numbers you are getting about 10 mpg. Even for a 1998 that is really bad mileage. My 1996 8 litre V10 does 15 highway and 12 around town and it puts out 300 horse and 450 FT Lbs of Torque. Now depending on how much you drive the pickup it may not matter. That and you can buy a whole bunch of gas for the 50,000 it would take to replace it. Even if you triple your gas mileage you will never break even. Over 300,000 Klms at 10 mpg gas costs 11,054, at 30 miles per gallon it cost 3685, saving you 7,350. That means it would take you more than 2 million kilometres for the gas savings to pay for a new truck. It is why gas mileage isn't really one of my major considerations when looking at vehicles.
Waldew, that is great gas mileage out of a Jeep. The new ones really do seem to turn in much better mileage than those made ten years ago.
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08-17-2021, 09:37 AM
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2016 Terrain 3.2 AWD 9.5 Lt/100, 30 IMP. MPG , 25 US MPG highway avg.
13 Lt/100 towing my 1800# boat
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2021 F150 Powerboost Hybrid supercrew FX4 with 3.5L ecoboost gas engine and 45kW electric motor.
7800km on truck total and average consumption over that 7800km is 10.3L/100km
Doesn't matter city or highway. City average is sometimes better as it is running electric between 30 and 50% of the time. Haven't towed with it yet other than a boat and got close to the same but over a small distance (~35km each way) at 11.7L/100km.
I am super happy with it so far. Gobs of instant power and good fuel economy. Bonus is the propower on board. I have to 2.4kW/hr version that has 2 X 110V plugs in the back. Was at a family cookout and plugged in the air fryer and made shrimp on the tail gate.
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I just fill and go...2010 F150.....if I am concerned about cost per litre etc I would buy a Honda ruckus.....
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I just fill and go...2010 F150.....if I am concerned about cost per litre etc I would buy a Honda ruckus.....
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Pretty much how I feel about trucks. Getting the mileage I do out of the 3.5 EB is a unexpected bonus!
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08-18-2021, 10:44 AM
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Waledw, my wife also gets 8liters/100km on her Grande Cherokee, she beats my 2001 Ram Cummins which only get 11-12/100km.
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08-18-2021, 02:41 PM
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Picked up the new 2500 with the 6.4. Redwater the long way round to the canopy shop in West edmonton, total of 80 klms on this first tank, 19 imperial on the computer. Will be interested to see what the hand calc shows.
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Just did a pretty good trip with my V8 4runner, only bothered calculating the first tank but came out to 11.7L/100km which is pretty acceptable for a lifted AWD V8 on 285s.
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That is impressive. Had 3 different v8 4runners and what you're seeing is the absolute best I ever saw out of any of mine. And that was absolute ***** footing in perfect slow driving scenarios. Mind you I never take anyone elses word on mileage as to what I'll get. Its always worse
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08-19-2021, 11:35 AM
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By all appearances the V8 gets as good or better mileage than the V6 option.
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Does your 2020 5.7L Grand Cherokee have cylinder deactivation?
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08-19-2021, 12:45 PM
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Does your 2020 5.7L Grand Cherokee have cylinder deactivation?
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It does and so does my new pickup with the 6.4. There is no indicator light when MDS kicks in and I can not feel it go in and out at all. If you put it in sport mode it disables the MDS on the Jeep. I would imagine trailer tow mode will do the same on the 2500 but I don't know that for sure yet. The 6 cyl has start stop at lights but neither of the 8s does that, thank goodness.
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I have 150,000km on my 2017 F150 with a 5.0L and I have not reset the meter since new on one of the trip/fuel counters while the other I reset at every tank. City/HWY combined since new is 12.0L/100KM and per tank the best I have gotten is 10.3 but usually sits between 11.3 to 12.6 depending how much city versus hwy.
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2021 chev 2500. 6.6 gas with 3.73 rear diff getting about 14l/100 at 110 empty. Add weight and lose fuel economy
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Took the new Ram 2500, with the 6.4 gas motor for its first highway run. Significantly better mileage than my V10 with more Horsepower and Torque. Seems to do about 16 around town, a little over 18 on the highway, it ended up at 18.3 by the end of the trip. With less than 600 Klms on it far from broke in. My V10 did about 11-12 around town and 14 to 15 on the highway. (All are Imperial miles per gallon. 18 Imperial is 15.7l/100 or 15 mpg U.S.) First two hand calculations came outto within .04 of the display value.
Ran the truck over the scales, with the winch on the front, the canopy, 3/4 tank of gas and only me in the truck, 8,100 Lbs, or 3680 KG. It has a 10,000 LB GVW so remaining payload is 1,900 Lbs. The diesel version has 1,000 less payload due to the weight of the Diesel. Front axle 2150, rear 1530. Dropped the tire pressure from 70 back to 60, and 65 front from 72. Door sticker says 65 on both ends for the Firestone 18" ATs.
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The 2004 Mercedes E500 wagon that I use has a pretty accurate hand checked meter. If I keep it on the highway at cruise control between 110 and 120, it'll do 10.0-10.6L/100km specifically on Shell premium gas. Spend a while in the city with stop and go traffic, the milage will drop fairly fast.
A round trip to lethbridge is about 250-270 km. It'll average for that trip about 11.1-11.3L/100KM.
A round trip to calgary will be about 320-360 km. That'll average 11.5-11.7.
If I use gas other than shell or fast gas, you can quickly add 1-1.5L/100km onto the trip. Petrocan and Costco are the worst offenders.
Even though I appear to drive aggressively from stop lights, a third of a petal will usually put me through the intersection faster than most people get through half the intersection, even if I start moving slower than the other cars.
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