View Poll Results: Should AO start an online ice derby?
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11-17-2013, 04:12 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sturgeon County
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Ideas for an AO online ice fishing tournament?
Waterninja brought up the ice shanty tournament, and JR suggested an AO tournament. Maybe the sponsors of AO could donate a few fishing related items for an AO tournament. I think it would be a fun contest on here, and more of a local one than ice shanty. What's your thoughts?
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11-17-2013, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Edmonton
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I like the idea
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11-17-2013, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary
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If it was a real in person derby that would be even better.
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11-17-2013, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Sounds good.
Who is kidding who. Every time I step on the ice it is a derby hahaha
So far I am losing
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11-17-2013, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Kananaskis
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I'm not familiar with the ice shanty one, are there different categories? Like different species? That'd be pretty cool!
if AOF doesn't wanna do an official one I might be ok with doing a pool sorta thing.... everybody chip in $5 or something
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11-17-2013, 06:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: West Edmonton
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Why do you want the sponsors to support tournament? Either do it for fun or have every one entering chip in $10-20(get them to email transfer it to someone). That is the way most guys do online kayak fishing tournaments etc.
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11-18-2013, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeGuy
Sounds good.
Who is kidding who. Every time I step on the ice it is a derby hahaha
So far I am losing
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11-17-2013, 07:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Lets start one. The rules for the one on I.S. sound like they would work well. We could have Pike, Perch, Walleye, RB Trout, Burbot and Whitefish. I'm sure we could come up with 18 prizes for 1st 2nd 3rd in each category. Keep it free so everyone can enter. Lets keep it simple. Maybe we should start the registration on this thread.
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11-17-2013, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Lets keep the prizes small. People get a little crazy if there are big dollar prizes. Winning will be more about bragging rights.
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11-17-2013, 10:11 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sturgeon County
Posts: 1,893
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dago
Lets start one. The rules for the one on I.S. sound like they would work well. We could have Pike, Perch, Walleye, RB Trout, Burbot and Whitefish. I'm sure we could come up with 18 prizes for 1st 2nd 3rd in each category. Keep it free so everyone can enter. Lets keep it simple. Maybe we should start the registration on this thread.
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I'm liking your idea Dago, keep it free, small prizes, bragging rights! Just add Lake Trout to the list and were GTG!
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11-17-2013, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chestermere
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North vs South?
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11-18-2013, 02:50 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Imo, an organized, in person one would be better or even perhaps multiple ones for different species, and also then could be spread out a bit more .... such as one trout day, and another mixxed day the next weekend or 2 weekends later.... or a different day and/or lake every weekend (or day whatever floats everyones ice shack) for every species (just more of an excuse to get out alot ) although different lakes would kinda spread it out and makes some 'events' more accessible for people in different areas
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11-18-2013, 05:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Originally Posted by EDMfishing
Imo, an organized, in person one would be better or even perhaps multiple ones for different species, and also then could be spread out a bit more .... such as one trout day, and another mixxed day the next weekend or 2 weekends later.... or a different day and/or lake every weekend (or day whatever floats everyones ice shack) for every species (just more of an excuse to get out alot ) although different lakes would kinda spread it out and makes some 'events' more accessible for people in different areas
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That would be a big commitment. Licensing, insurance, organising, volunteers. It would also limit how many members would enter. Derbies are a thing of the past. They have just shut down 2 big derbies in the south, Newell and Travers. Lets keep it simple and lots of people will enter.
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11-18-2013, 06:02 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Originally Posted by AppleJax
I'm liking your idea Dago, keep it free, small prizes, bragging rights! Just add Lake Trout to the list and were GTG!
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We could add as many as we want. I tried to keep it to fish that are most accessible to everyone across the province.
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11-18-2013, 06:19 AM
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: down by the river
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Originally Posted by Dago
We could add as many as we want. I tried to keep it to fish that are most accessible to everyone across the province.
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No reason it couldn't include all fish species.
Largest fish in centimeters clearly displayed on a ruler/tape with a personalized entry card in the photo.
Simple enough?
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11-18-2013, 08:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 102
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I would suggest - To encourage catch and release any pictures submitted should be of a live fish. No keeping fish on the ice all day and bringing it home to take the pictures. Hate to see a 20+ lb Jack be kept to only win a small on-line derby.
Last edited by drhook; 11-18-2013 at 08:37 AM.
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11-18-2013, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by BeeGuy
No reason it couldn't include all fish species.
Largest fish in centimeters clearly displayed on a ruler/tape with a personalized entry card in the photo.
Simple enough?
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Yup, but add to that a pic of you holding the fish with the lake in the background, thats how its done on IS. I like the idea of the winner getting a custom banner and bragging rights. Anymore than that and we just get more whining and hurt feelings...
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11-17-2013, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleJax
Waterninja brought up the ice shanty tournament, and JR suggested an AO tournament. Maybe the sponsors of AO could donate a few fishing related items for an AO tournament. I think it would be a fun contest on here, and more of a local one than ice shanty. What's your thoughts?
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Or how about all of us, as users, start our own ANNUAL fishing derby?
Everyone pitch in 50 bucks, we all meet up one morning at a local lake (Wabamun) for instance, and we need valid pics of fish, weights, all the details.
Blah blah, it would be interesting to see how it runs.
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11-17-2013, 09:16 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Originally Posted by Graffy91
Or how about all of us, as users, start our own ANNUAL fishing derby?
Everyone pitch in 50 bucks, we all meet up one morning at a local lake (Wabamun) for instance, and we need valid pics of fish, weights, all the details.
Blah blah, it would be interesting to see how it runs.
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We have to keep it an online contest. And free. That way everyone can play.
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11-26-2013, 07:19 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,842
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bump
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11-26-2013, 08:20 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Central Alberta
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The Govt says
"Derby and Tournament Licensing
The licensing of organized fishing derbies and tournaments (Competitive Fishing Events or CFE’s) is required for events involving more than 25 participants. The type of licence depends on the number of participants and the value of prizes. The cost of all licences is $25 and will be issued only to organizers who are residents of Alberta. Best Management Practices have been developed and incorporated into licence conditions to reduce impacts on fish populations. Events with 25 or fewer participants do not require a licence, but organizers are encouraged to voluntarily register such events and to follow best management practices.
Non-competitive fishing events, any event where 26 or more people participate in angling for one or more consecutive days on a specified water, do not require a licence, if prizes are awarded for participation or random draw, not a fishing competition.
The CFE website, at mywildalberta.com, provides organizers with application and reporting forms, licence conditions, contact information, and information on how best to operate an event. "
You need to be organized - - - maybe?
Don
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11-26-2013, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Blackfalds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Andersen
The Govt says
"Derby and Tournament Licensing
The licensing of organized fishing derbies and tournaments (Competitive Fishing Events or CFE’s) is required for events involving more than 25 participants. The type of licence depends on the number of participants and the value of prizes. The cost of all licences is $25 and will be issued only to organizers who are residents of Alberta. Best Management Practices have been developed and incorporated into licence conditions to reduce impacts on fish populations. Events with 25 or fewer participants do not require a licence, but organizers are encouraged to voluntarily register such events and to follow best management practices.
Non-competitive fishing events, any event where 26 or more people participate in angling for one or more consecutive days on a specified water, do not require a licence, if prizes are awarded for participation or random draw, not a fishing competition.
The CFE website, at mywildalberta.com, provides organizers with application and reporting forms, licence conditions, contact information, and information on how best to operate an event. "
You need to be organized - - - maybe?
Don
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since we arent all going out and meeting up to do this i assume we do not need to be licensed.
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11-26-2013, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Andersen
The Govt says
"Derby and Tournament Licensing
The licensing of organized fishing derbies and tournaments (Competitive Fishing Events or CFE’s) is required for events involving more than 25 participants. The type of licence depends on the number of participants and the value of prizes. The cost of all licences is $25 and will be issued only to organizers who are residents of Alberta. Best Management Practices have been developed and incorporated into licence conditions to reduce impacts on fish populations. Events with 25 or fewer participants do not require a licence, but organizers are encouraged to voluntarily register such events and to follow best management practices.
Non-competitive fishing events, any event where 26 or more people participate in angling for one or more consecutive days on a specified water, do not require a licence, if prizes are awarded for participation or random draw, not a fishing competition.
The CFE website, at mywildalberta.com, provides organizers with application and reporting forms, licence conditions, contact information, and information on how best to operate an event. "
You need to be organized - - - maybe?
Don
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Given that there is no specific location or event, fees or prizes, I do not see how this would apply.
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11-26-2013, 06:47 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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I have sent an email to mywildalberta. I let them know what are plans are and if we need a license. If you look at the forms they have you fill out for a derby, I'm sure we won't need a license. Don do you know if we need a license.
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11-26-2013, 07:37 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by BeeGuy
Given that there is no specific location or event, fees or prizes, I do not see how this would apply.
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x10. License, shmicence. Everyone should post their real name that participates in the derby just so that their name is spelled correct on the plaque if they win.
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11-26-2013, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Airdrie
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I'm in. Quick read as long as no prizes (non competitive) and not to one specific water body we are fine.
I have not heard/ seen the mods are willing to make this a sticky, please give your input.
As the derby goes forward no entries smaller then currently entered not allowed.
I think to have multiple large fish per category would be hard as then we would have to enter fish that are smaller then the largest current size.
All legal retention allowed fish can be entered as long as they exceed current entered size/weight.
Since Applejax-Dago started this they should have final contact to verify winners, I know but someone needs to make the final decision. (This will help for the sideline bets) (ps I'm in)
To be fair Dec.1 to Mar.15 as it would not be fair for the people in the Deep South losing out on a couple of weeks fishing or if it is chinooking maybe even more.
The print out of the sheet looks good and must be used.
Legible tape measure and scale us a must. If Dago cannot verify then it does not count.
I'm off all through x-mast jus us gonna be fun....
Last edited by Who Da Fisherman; 11-26-2013 at 10:36 PM.
Reason: Wording
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11-27-2013, 09:21 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Morinville
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Thanks Don. If we are to be "Alberta Outdoorsmen" and responsible for the management of our natural resources, I agree we should follow all rules and laws, even if it's 'grey'.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Andersen
The Govt says
"Derby and Tournament Licensing
The licensing of organized fishing derbies and tournaments (Competitive Fishing Events or CFE’s) is required for events involving more than 25 participants. The type of licence depends on the number of participants and the value of prizes. The cost of all licences is $25 and will be issued only to organizers who are residents of Alberta. Best Management Practices have been developed and incorporated into licence conditions to reduce impacts on fish populations. Events with 25 or fewer participants do not require a licence, but organizers are encouraged to voluntarily register such events and to follow best management practices.
Non-competitive fishing events, any event where 26 or more people participate in angling for one or more consecutive days on a specified water, do not require a licence, if prizes are awarded for participation or random draw, not a fishing competition.
The CFE website, at mywildalberta.com, provides organizers with application and reporting forms, licence conditions, contact information, and information on how best to operate an event. "
You need to be organized - - - maybe?
Don
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11-30-2013, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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I haven't heard back about a licence. So we are going to go ahead with the Dec.1 start. If we hear different we will deal with it. We will try and get the rules posted tonight.
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12-04-2013, 07:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Red Deer
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Bump.
Is this on or still waiting for some license information?
I have some real hogs to submit but didn't want to if we haven't started!
Ok, maybe not, but I'm gonna! Honest!
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12-04-2013, 10:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Airdrie
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Originally Posted by Dago
I haven't heard back about a licence. So we are going to go ahead with the Dec.1 start. If we hear different we will deal with it. We will try and get the rules posted tonight.
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Hey Dago how is that set of rules coming?
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