2014 Open Water Fishing Derby - Discussion/Congrats Thread

[The Reel Deal]

Originally Posted by hacman

After trying to get a fish to sit still for a picture I realized that this is just not going to work using a wet towel as a barrier. Not worth having fish out of the water too long just to snap a pic. Using a tarp or piece of plastic in the wind isn't an option for me either. So, decided to build one from PVC pipe as suggested in the rules. Went down to RONA and instead of building it, I found a 36" PVC eavestrough extension with a cap on one end. I glued the cap on tight and attached a stick-on measuring tape to the inside of it. Just over $20 for supplies. It should hold the majority of the fish I catch and a bonus is that it holds water for the fish to sit in while they put their smile on for the camera.

Also found this link showing how to make one from plastic sheeting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nnm38UcnQ8

cool!

[Flieguy]

Originally Posted by hacman

After trying to get a fish to sit still for a picture I realized that this is just not going to work using a wet towel as a barrier. Not worth having fish out of the water too long just to snap a pic. Using a tarp or piece of plastic in the wind isn't an option for me either. So, decided to build one from PVC pipe as suggested in the rules. Went down to RONA and instead of building it, I found a 36" PVC eavestrough extension with a cap on one end. I glued the cap on tight and attached a stick-on measuring tape to the inside of it. Just over $20 for supplies. It should hold the majority of the fish I catch and a bonus is that it holds water for the fish to sit in while they put their smile on for the camera.

Also found this link showing how to make one from plastic sheeting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nnm38UcnQ8

that's very similar to what Trout Unlimited uses to measure, theirs is PVC and works quite well. Zero is lined up with the end of the pipe so you can just hold the fish's nose to it. Did a lot of measuring for them, hardest things to measure are burbot, all muscle and slimy as heck.

[WayneChristie]

if anyones interested I will be happy to do a wallhanger for the pike winner like this, Ive had more practice so I will do a better job on it

[RavYak]

For those trying to figure out measuring tools. A measuring board(bought or made) is definitely the way to go.

I use a Hawg Trough which I like although it only goes up to 30 inches and is harder to buy here in Canada(I bought it from Austin Kayak website while in the states).

Another one I have seen used and seems to work decent is Plano extendable 36 inch board which you can buy for only $13 at the fishin hole.

http://www.thefishinhole.com/index.c...oduct&se=27595

With both you can make the numbers more readable by going over the lines with a sharpie. This may be required depending on your camera's abilities.

For larger species like pike you are pretty much stuck making your own. PVC tube works decent but is hard to store. Some guys make really nice folding wood ones but that takes a little more time and effort.

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

if anyones interested I will be happy to do a wallhanger for the pike winner like this, Ive had more practice so I will do a better job on it

gee wayne, you don't have to go to all that trouble for me......lol

[waterninja]

so i whipped up a fish measuring "tube" today using stuff around the shop. 6" pvc water pipe cut in half. block at one end with yardstick glued and stapled for quick pics. like an idiot i made a rookie mistake and glued the yardstick upside down..lol. going to apply one of those self adhesive measuring tapes that iv'e seen at fishing hole and other places. the one at wss has so much advertizing on it that you can hardly read the numbers. hope i don't put that one upside down. Can't wait to try it out.

[The Reel Deal]

Can anyone help me with which species sucker this is?

[RavYak]

I know little about suckers but I believe it is a redhorse, silver or shorthead I believe is determined by tail colour which your picture doesn't show(red is shorthead redhorse, silver is silver redhorse). Others should be able to confirm for you but might need a better picture showing entire fish.

[rafhone]

Originally Posted by The Reel Deal

Can anyone help me with which species sucker this is?

my guess is a silver redhorse.

https://www.outdooralabama.com/fishi...cker/redhorse/

[Reddin]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

if anyones interested I will be happy to do a wallhanger for the pike winner like this, Ive had more practice so I will do a better job on it

If it is a competitive derby, the derby should be registered. It's in the regulations.

[The Reel Deal]

Originally Posted by RavYak

I know little about suckers but I believe it is a redhorse, silver or shorthead I believe is determined by tail colour which your picture doesn't show(red is shorthead redhorse, silver is silver redhorse). Others should be able to confirm for you but might need a better picture showing entire fish.

[RavYak]

Yep looks like a silver redhorse to me as well.

[WayneChristie]

its not a silver redhorse their scales are much bigger. its a white or a mountain most likely, which is why we need an open sucker category some are hard to distinguish
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/Portals/...erredhorse.jpg

[WayneChristie]

Originally Posted by Reddin

If it is a competitive derby, the derby should be registered. It's in the regulations.

fine, just for you I withdraw my offer. and maybe you can give a definition of a derby?

[Reddin]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

fine, just for you I withdraw my offer. and maybe you can give a definition of a derby?

I didn't make the regulations. Derby licensing is in the regulations.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by Reddin

I didn't make the regulations. Derby licensing is in the regulations.

Which water body should we register(get CFE) for?

[Reddin]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Which water body should we register(get CFE) for?

Maybe the derby has clemency on that regulation too.

[rafhone]

Originally Posted by RavYak

According to SRD there are 2 types of tournaments. Competitive and non competitive. Non competitive(ie no prizes) do not require a license. Competitive do not require a license as long as there are under 26 entrants.

There are most likely going to be more then 26 entrants so that means it can't be competitive.

RavYak posted this. it matches what I read in the regs.

[RavYak]

http://mywildalberta.com/BuyLicences...EventsFAQ.aspx

http://mywildalberta.com/BuyLicences...on-Nov2011.pdf

Not a chance at getting this tournament approved by SRD, they wouldn't even know how to handle it and would probably tell us it couldn't be done(because of length of tourney and amount of waterbodies).

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by The Reel Deal

Can anyone help me with which species sucker this is?

looks to me like a reg white sucker, but for the tourney i'd call it a big nosed (or is that longnosed) sucker
redhorsre or silver redhorse suckers are more colorfull, esp. the tail. they are generraly more heavy bodied also.

[WayneChristie]

Originally Posted by waterninja

looks to me like a reg white sucker, but for the tourney i'd call it a big nosed (or is that longnosed) sucker
redhorsre or silver redhorse suckers are more colorfull, esp. the tail. they are generraly more heavy bodied also.

longnosed have a long nose

[Dale S]

Originally Posted by Reddin

If it is a competitive derby, the derby should be registered. It's in the regulations.

When we started the ice fishing derby I sent 2 emails to the SRD. I explained what we were up to. I got no replies back from them. There are enough members here connected to the SRD, I'm sure we would hear from them if we were doing anything wrong. That's one of the reasons why we are not having any prizes. We're keeping this fun and free.

[The Reel Deal]

Originally Posted by waterninja

looks to me like a reg white sucker, but for the tourney i'd call it a big nosed (or is that longnosed) sucker
redhorsre or silver redhorse suckers are more colorfull, esp. the tail. they are generraly more heavy bodied also.

I wish I had better pics. I thought I'd finally have some good pics since I had some friends helping. But I was wrong. Even had complaints about how many I asked him to take. All I want is 1 good one! Didn't get that out of 6 pics.
Do everything myself next time.

So? Maybe the derby judges can chime in and let me know if I have an entry or not

[Geezle]

Originally Posted by The Reel Deal

Can anyone help me with which species sucker this is?

Looks like a white sucker to me.

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

its not a silver redhorse their scales are much bigger. its a white or a mountain most likely, which is why we need an open sucker category some are hard to distinguish
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/Portals/...erredhorse.jpg

x2 on on suckers for derby.

[buckbrushoutdoors]

Why no sturgeon category? Only thing I fish for anymore.

[Geezle]

Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors

Why no sturgeon category? Only thing I fish for anymore.

Really though it's likely due to the lack of distribution throughout the province.

[wags]

Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors

Why no sturgeon category? Only thing I fish for anymore.

No sturgeon or bull trout due to protection of the species.

Cheers

[WayneChristie]

Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors

Why no sturgeon category? Only thing I fish for anymore.

same reason as no bull trout and you know why. plus theres no way you catch nothing but sturgeon. I catch pike walleye and other species on my sturgeon rigs

[buckbrushoutdoors]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

same reason as no bull trout and you know why. plus theres no way you catch nothing but sturgeon. I catch pike walleye and other species on my sturgeon rigs

Should have said target.