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10-06-2022, 09:40 PM
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I'm gonna give her a chance before I start casting stones.
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10-06-2022, 09:41 PM
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Future scenarios to watch for
Premier Smith stomps into Trudeau’s office , doesn’t get her way and throws up her hands and quits
We get yet another splinter party break off of the UCP possibly headed by Brian Jean
Rachel wins the next election and Daniel and Brian cross the floor .
After Smith crumples under the pressure. They Beg Kenny to come back and pick up the pieces …. again.
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10-06-2022, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
I was hoping for Toews, I think his qualifications were better & his ideas are more sensible. My fear is that Danielle with her more 'out there' intentions might well hand the next election over to Rachel.
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Exactly my concern. She has a base of UCP members that like her, but in a general election it could look a lot different.
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10-06-2022, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Trochu
I'm gonna give her a chance before I start casting stones.
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This for sure. Whether we like Danielle or not we need to be supportive because it’s better than the alternative
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10-06-2022, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
Also, as she doesn’t currently have a seat is she actually the premier? She is merely the leader of the UCP as of right now if I’m not mistaken.
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I believe she will be sworn in as Premiere on Friday?
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10-06-2022, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
This for sure. Whether we like Danielle or not we need to be supportive because it’s better than the alternative
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Lol where was this attitude when the last guy was in power ?
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10-06-2022, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I believe she will be sworn in as Premiere on Friday?
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They said Tuesday.
What I did like about her speech that right off the bat she said she made mistakes in the past and she admitted she was wrong.
So hopefully she can lead this province in the right direction very quick before Rachel takes over the reigns.
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10-06-2022, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I believe she will be sworn in as Premiere on Friday?
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Originally Posted by sewerrat
They said Tuesday.
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Really? Does she not need to be an MLA to be Premier?
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10-06-2022, 09:54 PM
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We all realize this AO community is mostly a right-wing echo chamber right? Theres a whole ‘nother Alberta out there that votes, which we might not be very representative of or relevant to.
Not sayin’ that’s good, but I think it’s the truth.
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10-06-2022, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wind drift
We all realize this AO community is mostly a right-wing echo chamber right? Theres a whole ‘nother Alberta out there that votes, which we might not be very representative of or relevant to.
Not sayin’ that’s good, but I think it’s the truth.
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Truth. All you need to do is look at the mayors of Calgary and Edmonton, as well as some of their MPs, to know that. And the people that voted that way aren't generally on AO. There is a definite potential for this to end very badly.
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10-06-2022, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wind drift
We all realize this AO community is mostly a right-wing echo chamber right? Theres a whole ‘nother Alberta out there that votes, which we might not be very representative of or relevant to.
Not sayin’ that’s good, but I think it’s the truth.
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The people that voted her in aren’t made up of entirely of the AO community. Every election that a conservative has won in Alberta was not won by AO either.
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10-06-2022, 10:12 PM
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Gotta hand it to Smith, she pulled her career out of the political grave and grifted her way to the top. I thought Kenney was the master opportunist here, nope.
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10-06-2022, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
The people that voted her in aren’t made up of entirely of the AO community. Every election that a conservative has won in Alberta was not won by AO either.
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You don’t need any votes in this province to win a majority government. Rachel did it and “nobody” voted for her.
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10-06-2022, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jungleboy
You don’t need any votes in this province to win a majority government. Rachel did it and “nobody” voted for her.
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Hahahahahaha. Ain’t that the truth.
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10-06-2022, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
The people that voted her in aren’t made up of entirely of the AO community. Every election that a conservative has won in Alberta was not won by AO either.
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Obviously.
My point was that we here may not be well in touch with the real political climate, and perhaps its smarter to understand what has changed and adapt than rail at it.
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10-06-2022, 11:33 PM
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Since Smith is a new leader of the party, I will support her as a party member. She was elected by the majority after all. I have to say thou that I did hope for Toews to take the leadership.
I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt so to speak. We will judge her by what she is going to do and not by who she identifies herself as…
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10-06-2022, 11:48 PM
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Apparently you can fool some of the people all of the time.
I keep seeing Lucy, Charlie Brown and a football. LOL  Can someone explain this to me? Please. 
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10-06-2022, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Redfrog
Apparently you can fool some of the people all of the time.
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Lol.
On a side note, she said so much nonsense on that podcast of hers that she is very easy pickings for most reasonable people questioning her intelligence.
Also, what Bushleague said on the previous page (or a couple of pages ago), as well as Wind Drift above.
And really, slim pickings. Kenny looks like the most suitable guy for the job, lol (no, I am not a fan). I guess, what Jungleboy said above too.
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10-07-2022, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck_Wagon
In 2015 the NDP didn't "run over" anything.
They won a meaningless 5 seats out of 87 outright, the rest that gave them a majority was only because of vote splitting between the Wildrose & PC.
Without vote splitting they would have barely had party status.
The green wave mantra was an NDP party media lie.
Vote splitting isn't going to give them another in any time soon, thank god.
Danielle Smith and the Alberta Sovereignty Act is the best interim solution for Albertans to attempt some isolation from an uncaring federal lib/ndp biased government.
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I agree. I hated her in the past but I’m glad Danielle won. When the entire establishment is against you, especially these days, you’re doing something right on the side of conservatism. That goes for the entire conservative party. They were all against her. I’m sick of the party leaning left. I think she has balls. She admitted her mistakes and has learned from it. She didn’t kiss ass when she was on the radio, she didn’t bend to mandates and that counts for a lot these days. She’s an absolute pitbull and a tougher Bit*h than the NDP Nut job Rachel. I think she’s gonna chew her up and spit out orange pieces. She’s good for Alberta and going to be even better against Ottawa.
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10-07-2022, 07:14 AM
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So….
Kenny out with51% approval….
Bring in someone with 53% approval….
….. and now an unelected person is bringing in the ‘sovereignty act’
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10-07-2022, 07:46 AM
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I'm gonna give her a chance before I start casting stones.
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X2, I like her independent attitude, time will tell if she's up to the job and can convince the electorate as well. 7 1/2 months to the next election.
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10-07-2022, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
So….
Kenny out with51% approval….
Bring in someone with 53% approval….
….. and now an unelected person is bringing in the ‘sovereignty act’
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UPC is a big tent, NDP an out house. 
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10-07-2022, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
So….
Kenny out with51% approval….
Bring in someone with 53% approval….
….. and now an unelected person is bringing in the ‘sovereignty act’
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be as pessimistic as you want, the sovereignty act pays huge dividends in quebec at our expense.
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10-07-2022, 07:56 AM
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I'm gonna give her a chance before I start casting stones.
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she had her chance and she blew it big time.
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10-07-2022, 08:04 AM
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I’m with Wayne on this one.
She blew a populist outdated dog whistle.
People barked
I don’t think the av prov voter reflects this
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10-07-2022, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
So….
Kenny out with51% approval….
Bring in someone with 53% approval….
….. and now an unelected person is bringing in the ‘sovereignty act’
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That’s a lot more than the next guy. This is an apples to oranges comparison.
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10-07-2022, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
I’m with Wayne on this one.
She blew a populist outdated dog whistle.
People barked
I don’t think the av prov voter reflects this
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This is a Conservative party. Conservative people voted in the most conservative candidate. Why is this shocking to people?
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10-07-2022, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
I’m with Wayne on this one.
She blew a populist outdated dog whistle.
People barked
I don’t think the av prov voter reflects this
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I think the average voter actually has a lot more sympathy for the views she is expressing than you think man... At least from all the people I talk to from all walks of life, but I still think she is a mistake. I hope I am wrong though.
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I agree. I hated her in the past but I’m glad Danielle won. When the entire establishment is against you, especially these days, you’re doing something right on the side of conservatism. That goes for the entire conservative party. They were all against her. I’m sick of the party leaning left. I think she has balls. She admitted her mistakes and has learned from it. She didn’t kiss ass when she was on the radio, she didn’t bend to mandates and that counts for a lot these days. She’s an absolute pitbull and a tougher Bit*h than the NDP Nut job Rachel. I think she’s gonna chew her up and spit out orange pieces. She’s good for Alberta and going to be even better against Ottawa.
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Yes. I'm convinced that her job in radio gave her better insights into the minds of Albertans than any of the other candidates. She took her lumps and learned. Her plan to face Ottawa on Albertas' behalf is reminiscent of Lougheed or Klein. Time to rock the boat a little.
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10-07-2022, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
I’m with Wayne on this one.
She blew a populist outdated dog whistle.
People barked
I don’t think the av prov voter reflects this
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I think we're starting to see the rise of freedom fighting conservatism around the world. Italy for example just elected a women who is for God, Country and family. The mainstream media called her the next Mussolini. You don't have to be religious to see the destruction that's happening to democratic institutions and I think many were seeing that creep into Alberta politics on the social side of things.
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