Conservation group buys out hunting rights in B.C.

[Stinky Buffalo]

A sign of more things to come?

I wonder how happy the BC government will be when they realize the loss of revenue from tags etc.

The Raincoast Conservation Foundation, based in Sidney, said Thursday that it raised $1.92 million over two years to buy the rights from hunters that covers roughly a quarter — or 18,000 square kilometres — of the Great Bear Rainforest on the province's north and central coast.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...9677bab95/amp/

[Smoky buck]

This has been in the works for a long time and I am pretty sure this is not the only outfitter territory that has gone this route

When the grizz hunt shut down it was a huge blow to the profits for some B.C. outfitters as the other species in their area lack numbers/quality to attract clients.

[tbrown]

They may have bought the outfit, but I’m sure they have no right to restrict resident hunters. They saved a few critters from non residents. Maybe the BC government will just increase resident tags numbers to still reach their harvest goals. I think this group might be disappointed about their outcome


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[Who Da Fisherman]

From the article:
“We are required to do hunts in order to maintain these territories at this point,” Falconer said. “We’ve been very unsuccessful at those hunts, and so the harvest rate has gone down to zero in those properties. … We just have very, very poor hunters.”
Time to bring in the choppers and aussies with there AR15’s.
WDF

[urban rednek]

Reading between the lines:

1. Local hunting outfitter is able to recoup some of the equity, or possibly made a good profit, on their operation. This was in a market with declining sales opportunities due to recent world events, provincial government interference and licensing restrictions.

2. This will improve hunting opportunities in the area for local hunters willing and able to put in the effort.

3. Demand for hunts will allow outfitters in other areas to increase fees in response to restricted supply.

4. Well meaning progressives stop commercial hunting on their recently purchased property without understanding (as usual) the unintended consequences of their actions.

[Smoky buck]

They are trying to protect bears in the area because the spirt bear gene is strong in the area and the slim possibility of the grizzly hunt returning. It has nothing to do with other species

The only other species that is of decent numbers is mountain goat and there is a ton of areas with opportunities that have better access near by. Opportunity used by residents won’t increase

There is some moose but do to numbers and quality the area is not in demand for guided hunts. The allocation never gets filled and the hunts were low value meat hunts

This will have no change in the market value of guided hunts in the area and no increase in resident opportunities

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by urban rednek

Reading between the lines:

1. Local hunting outfitter is able to recoup some of the equity, or possibly made a good profit, on their operation. This was in a market with declining sales opportunities due to recent world events, provincial government interference and licensing restrictions.

2. This will improve hunting opportunities in the area for local hunters willing and able to put in the effort.

3. Demand for hunts will allow outfitters in other areas to increase fees in response to restricted supply.

4. Well meaning progressives stop commercial hunting on their recently purchased property without understanding (as usual) the unintended consequences of their actions.

You nailed it.

The only fly in the ointment is the BC government can shut down hunting anytime they wish. Hunting sadly isn’t a right for non- natives.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

You nailed it.

The only fly in the ointment is the BC government can shut down hunting anytime they wish. Hunting sadly isn’t a right for non- natives.

Might want to research that area and territory in question before you are in agreement with his post

Number 1 on his list is correct the rest not so much

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Who Da Fisherman

From the article:
“We are required to do hunts in order to maintain these territories at this point,” Falconer said. “We’ve been very unsuccessful at those hunts, and so the harvest rate has gone down to zero in those properties. … We just have very, very poor hunters.”
Time to bring in the choppers and aussies with there AR15’s.
WDF

If they don't take their quotas, the government can decide to pull the rights to the territories. Wouldn't it be ironic if they lost the territory, and it was awarded to another outfitter?

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If they don't take their quotas, the government can decide to pull the rights to the territories. Wouldn't it be ironic if they lost the territory, and it was awarded to another outfitter?

They won’t loose it

Lots of B.C. outfitters are not filling their allocations for different species. They may loose part of their allocation but won’t loose the territory. The allocation in that territory will be mountain goat and moose with other species like black bear having no limit

Like I said this is about protecting bears they won’t care if they see a decrease in allocated species unless grizzly reopens

This has been in the works for a long time and the system is very different than Alberta.

[Sitkaspruce]

Having worked on the mid coast for years, this is just another GO territory being bought up by the uninformed.

It will not affect any resident hunting. It is some of the most remote country in BC and has very little resident hunting pressure.

BUT, it is start of a very slippery slope for hunting in BC. These companies raise money through emotions and they raised the money by portraying "poor little defenceless animals" and dead animal photos from the GO. I am pretty sure they have locked up the mid coast for any non-resident hunting. In reality, once the idiots in Victoria closed the grizzly hunt, most of the mainland coastal GO $$$ disappeared. They hunt some goats, some black bears, the odd deer and a few on the lower end have the odd elk tag. But the grizz was the big $$$. And once that was taken away, it also became hard to sell. I don't blame the GO, he has to sell to whomever will pay. And the uninformed will pay, they always do.

A few funny quotes for the CBC article:

"Literally hundreds of animals every year, including particularly the trophy species like grizzly bear, black bear, wolves, cougars, those are the real trophy species, those are not being killed now," Emotional quote because we all know grizzly have been closed since 2017, we have no problems with black bear populations, especially on the limited access mid coast and cougars......maybe a few, but nobody goes to the mid coast in the middle of January to hunt cougars...nobody.

"We are required to do hunts in order to maintain these territories at this point," Falconer said.
"We've been very unsuccessful at those hunts, and so the harvest rate has gone down to zero in those properties. We just have very, very poor hunters." That answers any questions about the use of the hunting area and its quota. There is nothing that says the quota has to be filled, just that it has to shown to be used. And the NDP will never challenge that!!

It's another sad day for hunting in BC.

SS

[walking buffalo]

Would be an interesting video if a "non hunter" was able to book a hunt with these outfitters.

[Samik]

Originally Posted by tbrown

They may have bought the outfit, but I’m sure they have no right to restrict resident hunters. They saved a few critters from non residents. Maybe the BC government will just increase resident tags numbers to still reach their harvest goals. I think this group might be disappointed about their outcome

No Right to restrict, but hunting in those areas will see your tires slashed, boats holed, camps destroyed while you are out for the day.

[7mmremmag]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Would be an interesting video if a "non hunter" was able to book a hunt with these outfitters.

We should throw a go fund me together. Tell them we want a 14 day combo hunt. With all the tags they offer.
Tie their yuppy guide to our packs and go in and shoot one of everything lol.
Wouldnt they be devastated if a bunch of really good, go hard hunters went in there and harvested some serious game.