Calgary Herald - Guns taken by RCMP from High River Homes

[Ceilidh69]

Uh oh......

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/al...851/story.html

[dollfin]

you beat me to it, just read that article and its the debate and talk at work right now, YIKES!

[pikergolf]

Why are they going through peoples homes?

[leeaspell]

So did they go in to every house? Or just look up the names of pal holders and start busting doors? This should be interesting

[Scotty P.]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Why are they going through peoples homes?

X2! Is this even legal for them to do? I guess the owners should have taken their firearms with them when they got evacuated although I'm sure the RCMP would be up in arms about that if they had.

[Scott N]

It really does sound pretty shady.

[Stonecutter]

Topham said the confiscated firearms have been inventoried and are secured at an RCMP detachment. He was not at liberty to say how many firearms had been confiscated.

“We have seized a large quantity of firearms simply because they were left by residents in their places,” said Topham.

The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership, Topham added.

Uh oh... So, are these folks supposed to provide a retail receipt or a registration from say, a defunct firearm registry?

I would hope what that means is that they can show up with proof of where they live and get their personal property back, but I'm assuming this will mean that if they don't show up with a RPAL or PAL, they won't be.

They should have left it well enough alone. This situation reminds me a lot of what happened in Slave Lake after the fire.

[Dick284]

I sure hope the owners of these firearms have an inventory with photos in a safe dry place.
How else are you going to prove ownership?

This is going to go sideways in a hurry!

Seize them when they know damned well most people's proof of ownership if any is likely destroyed by the same flood that caused the illegal seizure by the cops!

Hello class action law suit!

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by Dick284

Hello class action law suit!

X2

[hal53]

"some of these are very valuable". wonder if they took big screen TV's and jewel boxes too????..... and No looting in Calgary, but it's going on in High River????

[Okotokian]

proof of ownership should be unnecessary. The police know exactly where the firearms came from. After all, they stole them.

Wonder if they used old registry records to locate the guns, or did they search every home in town for them?

There better not be any unsafe storage charges coming out of this....

Write Ted Menzies, the area MP and ask him what the heck is going on and who is running the rcmp.

[Dr. Phil A]

Given that most of them were already locked up they cops had to cut into lockers and vaults. More destruction of personal property.

A real knee jerk jack booted response for sure.

Funny how everytime one of us leaves our residence we don't take all our guns with us so using the logic of that statement the cops are right out to lunch.

If they have the town as secure as they think they do then no one should be walking around stealing stuff.

[Deer Hunter]

How would they get into metal safes? Cutting torch?

Dr. Phil x2

[stuckincity]

Originally Posted by Scott N

It really does sound pretty shady.

That's the rcmp for ya. They seem to think think nobody should have guns except them. They don't come out and say it, but you can tell by their attitude toward gun owners.
Just sayin.

[canadiantdi]

Maybe this will make some of the idiots from the "state of emergency" thread open their eyes to what the gov can and will do. baa baa

[kidd]

The RCMP were probably in the houses to accompany the guys shutting of gas and power.
Reminds me of a story....One year the home alarm went off at my parents house while they were out of town. The neighbour had a key and let the police into their house to check that everything was ok. They noticed that the gun cabinet had glass doors (which was locked) but that in their opinion because of the glass doors the guns werent secure. The city cops simply asked my Dad to secure them with a cable (or some other means) and they might come back to take a look if all was good. No confiscating required....
kidd

[Dr. Phil A]

[QUOTE=kidd;2020891]The RCMP were probably in the houses to accompany the guys shutting of gas and power.

Should be a master valve somewhere so going into each and every house would not be necessary. Power same thing.

[sakogreywolf]

Unimpressive for sure. I would like to say I am surprised, but I am not.

[KWO]

This whole thing in High River has been a fiasco. First, not letting residents in to recover and secure whatever they can. Now, forced entry into homes to confiscate firearms. Sounds like a police state to me.

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Here's a question for ya...

Hypothetically, I have been given a mandatory evacuation order and I take my restricted firearm so that it won't be left in an abandoned house. Assuming it is in locked box and my travel trailer has a locking closet I can keep it in, how many laws have I broken? My ATT wouldn't cover taking it to a campground. Are the RCMP going to come looking for me after they break into my house and discover it is not there?

ARG

[silverdoctor]

Wow, part of me is so glad this happened, all hell is going to break loose over this. I hope the RCMP get stepped on for going above and beyond their rights.

This part of the article grabbed my attention...

He did confirm that officers relied on forced entry to get into numerous houses during the early stages of the flood because of an “urgent need”, said Topham.

[Lefty-Canuck]

A free photo bucket account is never been so valuable

LC

[Dick284]

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[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

Are the RCMP going to come looking for me after they break into my house and discover it is not there?

ARG

having read this story, what do you think that nswer to that is?????

[CheeseBurger]

There is a lot of talk over on CGN about it. Apparently the army had lent the RCMP breaching tools but when they discovered what was going on the army made sure the RCMP couldn't use them anymore. The RCMP also had locksmiths with them but they apparently didn't use them just kicked in or sledgehammered doors open. This is coming from military personnel.

A lot of these firearms were out of the safes as homeowners took them out of basement safes and put them in top floor closets to protect them from the flood.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by CheeseBurger

There is a lot of talk over on CGN about it. Apparently the army had lent the RCMP breaching tools but when they discovered what was going on the army made sure the RCMP couldn't use them anymore. The RCMP also had locksmiths with them but they apparently didn't use them just kicked in or sledgehammered doors open. This is coming from military personnel.

If that's true, wow... This is going to get ugly.

[SHORTMAG]

Break and enter to steal guns ???? WOW...are we ever protected !!

...makes a guy wonder how many of the "saved " guns will go missing ??

or, how many will wind up in the streets ??

Once the house was breached, will they keep a cop on the doorstep to prevent other breaches ????

This was a EFFED UP decision by the Royal Canadian Mounted Gestapo !!


Ge·sta·po (g-stäp, -shtä-)
n.
1. The German internal security police as organized under the Nazi regime, known for its terrorist methods directed against those suspected of treason or questionable loyalty.
2. gestapo pl. ge·sta·pos A police organization that employs terroristic methods to control a populace.

[Lefty-Canuck]

The army was also breaching doors....looking for people and pets in destroyed homes....was pretty ugly down there.

LC

[NewGuard84]

Which country are we living in again?

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by NewGuard84

Which country are we living in again?

Kanadahar