open carry petition - Page 9

ray284 · #**241** 12-22-2013, 06:38 PM

If you are a trapper, Photographer or any job that requires you to be on your own in the bush you can take a test and obtain a permit for concealed carry while you are working.I have not heard of any trouble arising from this or anyone having to use a handgun for protection from any animal

Ken07AOVette · #**242** 12-22-2013, 06:38 PM

Just a matter of time now

Lupincaster · #**243** 12-22-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fish gunner

Your off your nut , the shining example of "no guns , for you " we currently have a near unmeasurable death from firearms per 100000 people are you tring to suggest more gun would lower this tiny number . Your not talking any sense, power to the people thats communism. Lol

Off my nut???? hahhaha

"Power to the People" is a 60's saying and here in the great N America.
What planet are you from?

Maybe you should gather more info on the gun related deaths of registered owners vs non registered.

Fish don't fear you......responsible gun owner's fear you.

Lupincaster · #**244** 12-22-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

Just a matter of time now

No need for a lock here.

It's civil conversing and no-one is being rude here.

All opinions are welcome.

Even yours Mr Ken.

After all.....debates are about controversy.

But I find it a little disturbing that some of the controvery comes from an outdoors forum.....guess it's a matter of opinion here.

All my friends are pro sidearm carry....no matter what degree

fish gunner · #**245** 12-22-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lupincaster

Off my nut???? hahhaha

"Power to the People" is a 60's saying and here in the great N America.
What planet are you from?

Maybe you should gather more info on the gun related deaths of registered owners vs non registered.

Fish don't fear you......responsible gun owner's fear you.

Wierd it was a popular saying in turn of the century russia, later in china and not long ago in north Vietnam . Lol
Is an m60 not a side arm . Lol as stated most if not everyone in canada yhat has need of a side arm currently carries.

Lupincaster · #**246** 12-22-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fish gunner

Wierd it was a popular saying in turn of the century russia, later in china and not long ago in north Vietnam . Lol
Is an m60 not a side arm . Lol as stated most if not everyone in canada yhat has need of a side arm currently carries.

OK...your history of "Power to the People" supersedes mine.
It's still a great saying.

But....back to the topic at hand.

Do you not think that hunter's are in need of a sidearm?

AND....there have been many crimes on citizen's....and being able to carry a side arm may have prevented an assault.

There is so much evidence in the archives to promote side arm carry legally.

Again....what are some of you scared of?
I don't get it.

Try it first......and reverse the decision if deemed neccissary.

ali#1 · #**247** 12-22-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lupincaster

OK...your history of "Power to the People" supersedes mine.
It's still a great saying.

But....back to the topic at hand.

Do you not think that hunter's are in need of a sidearm?

AND....there have been many crimes on citizen's....and being able to carry a side arm may have prevented an assault.

There is so much evidence in the archives to promote side arm carry legally.

Again....what are some of you scared of?
I don't get it.

Try it first......and reverse the decision if deemed neccissary.

If it gives hunters and trappers easier access to sidearms I don't have a problem with that. If it allows inner city youth and criminals to carry then I'm against it.

Unregistered user · #**248** 12-22-2013, 07:33 PM

I don't see why this should even be debated. Those of us that own guns lawfully are no more or less likely to use them in the commission of a crime no matter where we keep them, because we have too much to lose and WE ARE NOT CRIMINALS. Even though successive governments and d.b. lobbyists have tried to paint all gun owners as violent women haters it is simply not true. The practice of targeting us is discriminatory, disgusting and downright ignorant. If any other group was singled out for such treatment in Canada could you imagine the howls? Join the NFA and contribute what you can.

fish gunner · #**249** 12-22-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lupincaster

OK...your history of "Power to the People" supersedes mine.
It's still a great saying.

But....back to the topic at hand.

Do you not think that hunter's are in need of a sidearm?

AND....there have been many crimes on citizen's....and being able to carry a side arm may have prevented an assault.

There is so much evidence in the archives to promote side arm carry legally.

Again....what are some of you scared of?
I don't get it.

Try it first......and reverse the decision if deemed neccissary.

No to hunters needing side arms, hunted half my adult life,had hunderds of bear encounters pistol has never been of use .had one iffy encounter with a cougar used bear spray a fiend was carrying.
The evidence shows canada' s incidents of crime from firearms is miniscule. In the us its rife imo its access to firearm that causes the problem . Live in a strict state drive 30 new state next to no laws.
Im not scared in any way I carry a 1" blade on my key chain for cutting fishing line otherwise unarmed.
We did have open carry oh say a hundred years ago it was changed as you suggested so your a hundred yrs late . Lol.

Lupincaster · #**250** 12-22-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fish gunner

No to hunters needing side arms, hunted half my adult life,had hunderds of bear encounters pistol has never been of use .had one iffy encounter with a cougar used bear spray a fiend was carrying.
The evidence shows canada' s incidents of crime from firearms is miniscule. In the us its rife imo its access to firearm that causes the problem . Live in a strict state drive 30 new state next to no laws.
Im not scared in any way I carry a 1" blade on my key chain for cutting fishing line otherwise unarmed.
We did have open carry oh say a hundred years ago it was changed as you suggested so your a hundred yrs late . Lol.

No worries.....I get your point.
Bin in the wilderness for a better part of my almost 50yrs and have never had a NEED for a firearm for protection. But I would feel more comfy if I had one.

Glad you made it out safe with your encounters

For me.....it's just an extra security blanket that I would like to have legally.

Redfrog · #**251** 12-22-2013, 08:15 PM

"If it allows inner city youth and criminals to carry then I'm against it."

Brilliant!!!! Who is advocating this???? And which criminal gives a ratass what the law says anyway. Do you even know what a criminal is??

ali#1 · #**252** 12-22-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

"If it allows inner city youth and criminals to carry then I'm against it."

Brilliant!!!! Who is advocating this???? And which criminal gives a ratass what the law says anyway. Do you even know what a criminal is??

More access to guns means more criminal access to guns.

Didn't a guy in st Paul just get caught with selling restricted guns ? You think I he had easier access he wouldn't sell more ?

Redfrog · #**253** 12-22-2013, 08:22 PM

Criminals don't care about gun laws. Places where no guns are allowed still have armed criminals.

Just keep making things up. It does wonders for your crediblity.

ali#1 · #**254** 12-22-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

Criminals don't care about gun laws. Places where no guns are allowed still have armed criminals.

Just keep making things up. It does wonders for your crediblity.

So more guns will reduce crime ?

Redfrog · #**255** 12-22-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

So more guns will reduce crime ?

OMG!!! If you see a gun in my hand, are you still going to try to rob me???

norwestalta · #**256** 12-22-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fish gunner

No to hunters needing side arms, hunted half my adult life,had hunderds of bear encounters pistol has never been of use .had one iffy encounter with a cougar used bear spray a fiend was carrying.
The evidence shows canada' s incidents of crime from firearms is miniscule. In the us its rife imo its access to firearm that causes the problem . Live in a strict state drive 30 new state next to no laws.
Im not scared in any way I carry a 1" blade on my key chain for cutting fishing line otherwise unarmed.
We did have open carry oh say a hundred years ago it was changed as you suggested so your a hundred yrs late . Lol.

Hundreds of bear encounters. That's over 200 and less than 999. I spent a fair bit of time in the bush but I don't think I've seen 200 bears let alone encounter one. That's a lie. Sorry. I've had two bear encounters. I'm glad that you've had pepper spray. My case I went back in the house.
I don't understand why gang bangers and inner city youth have anything to do with this. They've already got the guns. I would just like to even the score.
Seems like we have got of topic here. I don't think any less of the naysayers for not signing the petition then I do of the ones that did. It is entirely upto ones beliefs and to each they're own.

ali#1 · #**257** 12-22-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

OMG!!! If you see a gun in my hand, are you still going to try to rob me???

If I have a gun too maybe

Redfrog · #**258** 12-22-2013, 08:40 PM

"Hundreds of bear encounters." "Hundreds of bear encounters."
Really?????

So what did you do in these cases. Advance to the rear.

BeeGuy · #**259** 12-22-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lupincaster

No worries.....I get your point.
Bin in the wilderness for a better part of my almost 50yrs and have never had a NEED for a firearm for protection. But I would feel more comfy if I had one.

Glad you made it out safe with your encounters

For me.....it's just an extra security blanket that I would like to have legally.

Before you get the hammer, please, please, let us in on your previous identities

elkhunter11 · #**260** 12-22-2013, 08:47 PM

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hunted half my adult life,had hunderds of bear encounters

Absolutely priceless! Quite the imagination you have there!

It appears that nobody else is believing this nonsense either.

FreeLantz · #**261** 12-22-2013, 08:49 PM

This is becoming shrill and repetitive, particularly you Lupincaster. All your BS about wars and history and expeditionary forces, and especially when you used the word "whilst", makes fish gunner a close second lol.

Ken was right....ibtl.

catnthehat · #**262** 12-22-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Absolutely priceless! Quite the imagination you have there!

It appears that nobody else is believing this nonsense either.

That is a LOT of bears!!

Cat

BeeGuy · #**263** 12-22-2013, 09:06 PM

A great many people on this board hardly trust the police to open carry.

Just because you want something, and just because you may be responsible if you are permitted, does not mean that it would be a beneficial change overall.

ali#1 · #**264** 12-22-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeGuy

A great many people on this board hardly trust the police to open carry.

Just because you want something, and just because you may be responsible if you are permitted, does not mean that it would be a beneficial change overall.

A lot of people are dilusional an watch too many old westerns.

elkhunter11 · #**265** 12-22-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat

That is a LOT of bears!!

Cat

More like a lot of bull.

Redfrog · #**266** 12-22-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

A lot of people are dilusional an watch too many old westerns.

And some don't even watch old westerns , they just make crap up.

wags · #**267** 12-22-2013, 09:12 PM

So one question, and truly honest here - if you're hunting in the bush, don't you already have a gun? What's the need for a second gun? Is it simply a matter of being able to draw and shoot quicker?

And for the hunters who feel like the stance against this is based on hunters being criminals, and wide brushes, and you carry them now and so on...

My perspective is not that what-so-ever. My perspective is that if it's easier for you to get them, it's easier for everyone else to get them. And if there's something you're allowed to have, then many more stores will sell them, and current stores will sell more. At the end of the day, it's simple math - more guns, more crimes as a result of guns. This provides opportunities for crimes to be committed using guns that would not normally would have been committed (the multitude of school shootings being an example).

As for the argument of 'would you commit a crime against me if you saw me carrying a gun' can only be met with what do we see from our southerly neighbors? Maybe it deters some, and others becomes a 'my gun is bigger than your gun' match...so the answer would be absolutely, yes, happens all the time.

The petition is being requested as a means of protection. As per my original post, protection from what? If it's animals only, as in the case of hunting, perhaps laws that provide people with a valid hunting license/ticket the means to carry...only while hunting. Otherwise, can't imagine what we need protection from.

Cheers,
Jay

Lupincaster · #**268** 12-22-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Before you get the hammer, please, please, let us in on your previous identities

I'm your Uncle George....don't you recognize me?

Shame on you.....no Christmas turkey dinner for you.

catnthehat · #**269** 12-22-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

More like a lot of bull.

I couldn't even bother trying to do the math on how many a day that would be!

Cat

Redfrog · #**270** 12-22-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeGuy

A great many people on this board hardly trust the police to open carry.

Just because you want something, and just because you may be responsible if you are permitted, does not mean that it would be a beneficial change overall.

So tell us what changes lately have been beneficial overall????