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07-09-2017, 10:25 AM
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Cougar Moved into the area
OK Fellas
We have a cougar move into our area.
I have seen him twice in the last three days.
This is up at my pasture land.
I am wondering what would be the best way to deal with him.
Any suggestions?
I have both foals and calves on the pasture.
Location is about 1.5 hrs NE of edmonton
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07-09-2017, 10:33 AM
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Pretty easy fix
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07-09-2017, 11:29 AM
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S.S.S.
End of story.
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07-09-2017, 12:18 PM
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Nothing doesn't sound like he is doing any thing wrong.
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07-09-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman
S.S.S.
End of story.
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Not necessary, as a land owner, you can legally snuff the cat.
Grizz
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07-09-2017, 12:22 PM
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We'd been seeing more cats than we should be a couple a years on our families place down North West of the Twin Butte area, it was becoming a concern as we have family gatherings there in August. F&W were down there electro fishin we asked about the cats, they said if you see them and they aren't taking off, plug em!
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07-09-2017, 12:46 PM
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*Cougar
Any person who is the owner or occupant of privately owned land may at any time of year, hunt (but not trap) cougar on such lands without a licence. Hunting with dogs is prohibited under this authority. Under this authority, registration is required within one week of the kill by bringing the skin and skull (or intact carcass) to a Fish and Wildlife office. A premolar tooth will be retained for aging.
* It is not legally necessary to salvage pelts of furbearing animals (includes coyote and wolf) or black bear taken in accordance with regulations authorizing the control of problem wildlife set out in this part. The skin and skull of cougar taken on privately-owned land as described must be submitted at time of registration as noted, but the cougar pelt does not need to be further salvaged. Click here for information about seasons for coyote and wolf.
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07-09-2017, 02:20 PM
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A cougar that is not a threat to your kids or your cattle should not be seen on a regular basis like you describe. If you only see him once in month probably hunting deer, more than once is probably hunting domestic animals. I like the chootum" advice.
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07-09-2017, 03:37 PM
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Shoot on sight! Guilty of just "being".
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07-09-2017, 05:44 PM
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There was one hanging out near the Wabamun range in the spring. Guys said he was attracted to gunfire.
Hasn't been seen for a while. Hmmmmmm.
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07-09-2017, 06:15 PM
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Kerpow!
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07-09-2017, 06:33 PM
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300 win mag should solve the problem
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07-09-2017, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Not necessary, as a land owner, you can legally snuff the cat.
Grizz
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2x...
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07-09-2017, 09:05 PM
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We recently had one move into the area as well. I wasn't upset, In fact welcomed said cougar. The wife, on the other hand was very upset.
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07-09-2017, 09:38 PM
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Lol!
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07-09-2017, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mgvande
We recently had one move into the area as well. I wasn't upset, In fact welcomed said cougar. The wife, on the other hand was very upset.
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07-09-2017, 11:00 PM
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Since you have live stock and it "might" attack them you gotta do what you gotta do. Personally I'd give any wild animal a free pass simply because I like nature. This is sounding so American as in...."I saw a wild animal whatever should I do?"
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07-10-2017, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pa_of_6
OK Fellas
We have a cougar move into our area.
I have seen him twice in the last three days.
This is up at my pasture land.
I am wondering what would be the best way to deal with him.
Any suggestions?
I have both foals and calves on the pasture.
Location is about 1.5 hrs NE of edmonton
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He has probably been in your area for some time, it's probably part of it's territory. Seeing it twice in three days doesn't mean much other than it may have a kill it is cleaning up. Are there lots of deer around? If it hasn't killed any livestock there or elsewhere around the surrounding neighborhood it probably isn't/won't be much of a concern. People don't realize how many of them there are around, every once in a while one goes bad and kills livestock or pets but the majority of them don't cause a problem.
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07-10-2017, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bushrat
he has probably been in your area for some time, it's probably part of it's territory. seeing it twice in three days doesn't mean much other than it may have a kill it is cleaning up. are there lots of deer around? If it hasn't killed any livestock there or elsewhere around the surrounding neighborhood it probably isn't/won't be much of a concern. People don't realize how many of them there are around, every once in a while one goes bad and kills livestock or pets but the majority of them don't cause a problem.
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07-11-2017, 11:17 AM
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Apex predators
I say let him be. I never understood the "see him shoot him" mentality.
We had some wolves move into WMU 214 a few years back, didnt cause any troubles that I know of. A neighbor saw one and shot it. I asked why? He said "Cause we're cattlemen " I asked how many calves he had lost .. none... ever.
I can see dealing with it when its preying on livestock or putting children in danger.
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07-11-2017, 12:33 PM
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I'm with the "choot 'em" crowd. Why wait till he starts taking your livestock.....
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07-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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putting children in danger.
So, when do you decide children are at risk, or adults for that matter? Cougars are normally very reclusive, you don't see them unless they want you to and the cougar seen repeatedly is well on his way to being a problem cat.
Grizz
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07-11-2017, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puma
I say let him be. I never understood the "see him shoot him" mentality.
We had some wolves move into WMU 214 a few years back, didnt cause any troubles that I know of. A neighbor saw one and shot it. I asked why? He said "Cause we're cattlemen " I asked how many calves he had lost .. none... ever.
I can see dealing with it when its preying on livestock or putting children in danger.
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Why wait until you lose something to take action? There are laws in place that allow landowners to take action specifically to avoid problems before or after they happen. The loss of one head of cattle is a big financial hit. Wolves, coyotes, bears and cougars should be shot anytime they are seen near cattle and even more so around residences where children are present. Get rid of the problem before it actually becomes a problem!
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07-11-2017, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pa_of_6
OK Fellas
We have a cougar move into our area.
I have seen him twice in the last three days.
This is up at my pasture land.
I am wondering what would be the best way to deal with him.
Any suggestions?
I have both foals and calves on the pasture.
Location is about 1.5 hrs NE of edmonton
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Some things are better left unsaid
Good luck Hope you find a peaceful resolution.
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07-11-2017, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by last minute
Some things are better left unsaid
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Why would you say that?
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07-11-2017, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS
Why wait until you lose something to take action? There are laws in place that allow landowners to take action specifically to avoid problems before or after they happen. The loss of one head of cattle is a big financial hit. Wolves, coyotes, bears and cougars should be shot anytime they are seen near cattle and even more so around residences where children are present. Get rid of the problem before it actually becomes a problem!
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I have livestock, large and small. If the loss of one cow is "a big financial hit", your in the wrong business. We have Cougar, Coyotes, and the odd Bear come through here. Just because you can, does not mean you should.
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07-11-2017, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puma
I have livestock, large and small. If the loss of one cow is "a big financial hit", your in the wrong business. We have Cougar, Coyotes, and the odd Bear come through here. Just because you can, does not mean you should.
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"big financial hit" may not have been the best way to put it. Never the less it is a financial hit. My family has been in the cattle business for 40 years. The loss of one head while maybe not huge, is still a hit to the wallet. You may not see that removing predators from the population "because we can" as a effective way to save money and livestock but I believe you would be in the minority if we polled farmers and ranchers on that subject.
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nevermind. edited
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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07-11-2017, 04:05 PM
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It's not just one animal you could lose. It's all the offspring over the years as well. So yes it is a BIG hit. I they only get subsidized for the ONE animal.
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