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Yup, it sucks to have neighbors like that. Trust me, I know. My neighbor from hell doesn't clean up after his Lab all winter, and in the spring when the snow melts I have a pond of dog poop next to my house that reeks beyond belief. Then, they don't mow their lawn all summer, till the weeds are growing up 5' tall along their house, and my fence. My allergies really enjoy that. Bylaw has been involved a number of times. His response is to use his snow blower to pile his snow in front of my driveway. He also likes to run his sump hose so it shoots under my fence. And yes, he is also an idler (although he only has a Nissan Titan, he did make the effort to put straight pipes on it, and idles it from 5 AM until he leaves at 5:45...with a gas engine). Really?
The world is full of these hateful people. When we had a 'discussion' about some of his habits, his answer was 'Well, some people have different standards, doesn't make mine wrong.....'.
Not from Alberta, this family of hateful people. Not that it makes a difference I suppose.
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11-07-2017, 11:49 AM
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11-07-2017, 12:34 PM
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Under the decibel level... no idle law... what a waste of time that article was. Guess what? My diesel is running for 20 minutes every winter morning to, with high idle.
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11-07-2017, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassett
Under the decibel level... no idle law... what a waste of time that article was. Guess what? My diesel is running for 20 minutes every winter morning to, with high idle.
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I'm curious as to why you think that you need to idle it for 20 minutes to warm it up.
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11-07-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
I'm curious as to why you think that you need to idle it for 20 minutes to warm it up.
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So it is warm inside. I like getting into a warm truck. Maybe doesn't take 20 minutes, 10-15 is usually good.
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11-07-2017, 01:18 PM
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Malloy said she and the neighbour have had several run-ins over the last four years and now both have restraining orders against each other.
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Seems to me there's more to this story than just one neighbour being an arse and excessively idling his truck. I assume he does it out of passive-aggressive spite due to past issues rather than anything else.
However, idling for more than 10 minutes is completely excessive. I own a diesel, and I'll let it sit in elevated idle for a few minutes to get the fluids moving and initially warmed up a bit, but after that easy driving is going to make it warm up a lot faster, and supposedly causes less wear on the engine.
Want to jump into a warm cab? Store it in a heated garage, or install a Webasto, or buy a gas truck. It's morons spending 45 minutes every morning running their trucks that gives diesel owners a bad name, and is going to lead to the government cracking down (in the form of bylaw fines as seen here, or province wide "health" related idling restrictions). As usual, it's a small minority ruining it for the rest of us.
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11-07-2017, 01:25 PM
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Goes back to being considerate. Most people have the right up-bringing but there are many who do not. I always tell my son to be considerate of others and think about how his actions will impact others.
Sadly it is not just the younger generation that have the vice of entitlement and the "me and mine first" attitude - you see and hear it from all age groups.
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11-07-2017, 01:54 PM
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So it is warm inside. I like getting into a warm truck. Maybe doesn't take 20 minutes, 10-15 is usually good.
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i run mine for at least 20min in the winter
and if i am moving this around my yard ill leave it running for an hour or more
its a diesel takes longer to warm up
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11-07-2017, 02:27 PM
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It must be a special option for diesel to get a block heater in stalled huh?
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11-07-2017, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
I'm curious as to why you think that you need to idle it for 20 minutes to warm it up.
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Engine operating temperature?
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11-08-2017, 12:39 AM
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I'm curious as to why you think that you need to idle it for 20 minutes to warm it up.
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For my truck it is to defrost the windshield. If I don't let it warm up properly 5 mins into my drive during the winter I end up with the inside of my windshield fogging up so bad I have to pull over to let it defog. This is due to when the engine finally puts warm air into the cab it causes the windshield to fog up to the point of not being able to see out it.
For me it is a safety issue to high idle my truck when I start it in the morning.
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11-08-2017, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ctd
For my truck it is to defrost the windshield. If I don't let it warm up properly 5 mins into my drive during the winter I end up with the inside of my windshield fogging up so bad I have to pull over to let it defog. This is due to when the engine finally puts warm air into the cab it causes the windshield to fog up to the point of not being able to see out it.
For me it is a safety issue to high idle my truck when I start it in the morning.
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Did you read the article that I posted? After a bit the engine won’t get any warmer when it’s just sitting idling. It won’t get any warmer unless you are driving it. It makes me wonder if a lot of people are leaving their trucks idling longer than they really need to. Just sayin......
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11-08-2017, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
Did you read the article that I posted? After a bit the engine won’t get any warmer when it’s just sitting idling. It won’t get any warmer unless you are driving it. It makes me wonder if a lot of people are leaving their trucks idling longer than they really need to. Just sayin......
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Ok, this is simply incorrect. If it is -15, idling my truck for 7 minutes is not going to bring warm air into the cab. And as ctd stated, my windshield also fogs up sometimes if I start driving without warm air blowing. So at -15, my truck is idling for no less than 10 minutes, probably more like 15, before the warm air starts flowing. And if you would look at the temperature gauges, you can be assured that oil/coolant temp continues to climb after 7 minutes of idling.
Judging by the logic employed in the article it is not worth my time to read it.
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11-08-2017, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
Did you read the article that I posted? After a bit the engine won’t get any warmer when it’s just sitting idling. It won’t get any warmer unless you are driving it. It makes me wonder if a lot of people are leaving their trucks idling longer than they really need to. Just sayin......
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Like I mentioned in my above post Dave,,, the artical only talks about idling diesel and not on high idle which is different is it not.
The artical all so does not state or support any information of what the motor does for temperature after its warmed up.
Example might be:
Truck starts off the day cold, then comes back.
Now that it is warm does the person shut it off knowing there are more tasks to do during the day, or start off cold once again.
Once the unit is up to temp, does it stay hot or warm.
Many folks are not aware of this but carbon diesel foot print is less that of gasoline from manufacturing, burn, and recycled back to the trees.
This of course is for another thread my friends.
Just like the author stated in his write up,,, much of this is still up for debate,,, unless I read it wrong.
Oh well, I'm sure the powers to be will sort this out in years to come.
Looks like my high idle heavy hual is just about ready to go,,, Naaaaa,,, I'll have another coffee before hitting the open road of glory.
Nothing like have our units toasty warm using high idle,,, plugged in block heater is good, warm cab is even better.
At least each owner gets to pick and choose what works since its their dime that supports their investments,,, hopefully more wrong than right.
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'Classic neighbour from hell' who idles truck prompts bylaw review
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Originally Posted by Bassett
Under the decibel level... no idle law... what a waste of time that article was. Guess what? My diesel is running for 20 minutes every winter morning to, with high idle.
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Which I don't think is unreasonable but I'm sure there are winners out there that idle them hours those are the ones that will ultimately ruin it for everyone.
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11-07-2017, 01:21 PM
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This summer when its going to be a real hot week get a dead pig hang it by your fence get a good fan and blow it his way.I told my neighbour if they ever come out and light a green one on their deck again to excpect this to happen to them.Guess what? never had a problem since that little chat
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11-08-2017, 02:07 AM
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This summer when its going to be a real hot week get a dead pig hang it by your fence get a good fan and blow it his way.I told my neighbour if they ever come out and light a green one on their deck again to excpect this to happen to them.Guess what? never had a problem since that little chat
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11-08-2017, 05:17 AM
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Worked in Ft Mac at -65 !!! Nothing was shut off or it was done. A power seat and a snow scraper works great for high idle. Connect the pedal to the seat with the brush and move the seat forward till appropriate.Anyways I would just get used to the noisy diesel cuz it isnt bothering the guy running it and being an A-hole just makes it worse but thats up to you!
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11-08-2017, 05:40 AM
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I sure am glad that I don’t have some of you guys for neighbors. I think most of the people I live around are generally pretty accepting of one and others minor annoyances. I’m guessing that I should have had the RCMP at my door a good 50 or 60 times in the time I’ve lived here and I’ve even got two officers that live in my neighbourhood. Everything from being totally wasted roaming around with open liquor to loud music pounding till 3:00am to ripping up and down the streets on my quad and this is a new neighbourhood not a trailer park. Never an issue....Light it up, crank it up, stomp on those straight pipes, frankly I don’t give a dam and I mind my own business 
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11-07-2017, 03:18 PM
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Under the decibel level... no idle law... what a waste of time that article was. Guess what? My diesel is running for 20 minutes every winter morning to, with high idle.
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I guess there is a difference between what you can legally do and what is considerate for others. Reminds me of my old neighbor that was just complaining about her new neighbors that insisted on smoking weed right beside her deck and under her kitchen window.
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11-07-2017, 03:28 PM
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This is why I live on a 1/4....
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11-07-2017, 03:36 PM
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How about the guy who had a breathalyzer installed on his truck so he wouldn't drive impaired. HIs solution was to be sober , start his truck , then start boozing and leave his truck running for days  and drive drunk as a skunk
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11-07-2017, 05:15 PM
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How about the guy who had a breathalyzer installed on his truck so he wouldn't drive impaired. HIs solution was to be sober , start his truck , then start boozing and leave his truck running for days and drive drunk as a skunk |
I call BS. Pretty sure you need to blow at various intervals.
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11-10-2017, 01:35 PM
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How about the guy who had a breathalyzer installed on his truck so he wouldn't drive impaired. HIs solution was to be sober , start his truck , then start boozing and leave his truck running for days and drive drunk as a skunk |
i'm not condoning impaired driving...but, that's the kind of creative thinking and can do attitude that makes this province great.
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11-07-2017, 06:56 PM
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This is why I live on a 1/4....
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Roger that.
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11-07-2017, 04:37 PM
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I guess there is a difference between what you can legally do and what is considerate for others. Reminds me of my old neighbor that was just complaining about her new neighbors that insisted on smoking weed right beside her deck and under her kitchen window.
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Except weed is still illegal and people idling their trucks is not.
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11-07-2017, 04:51 PM
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Inconsiderate morons everywhere.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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Inconsiderate morons everywhere.
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Inconsiderate morons everywhere.
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X3 People are only concerned about themselves. Can not complain to much, my generation raised these selfish drips.
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