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12-17-2014, 11:20 AM
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What happened to Jiffy?
I remember back when I was a young pup that pretty much all the ice augers I'd see we're Jiffy's, and it seemed like they always work great. Heck, my dad still has his which is likely nearly as old as I am.
Seems like these days the reputation of Jiffy has really tanked, with lower quality products, and poor customer service.
So what happened? Different management? Were they bought out by somebody else? Are they just being too cheap in trying to make a buck?
All I can say at this point is that they are the one brand of auger I would avoid buying.
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12-17-2014, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezle
I remember back when I was a young pup that pretty much all the ice augers I'd see we're Jiffy's, and it seemed like they always work great. Heck, my dad still has his which is likely nearly as old as I am.
Seems like these days the reputation of Jiffy has really tanked, with lower quality products, and poor customer service.
So what happened? Different management? Were they bought out by somebody else? Are they just being too cheap in trying to make a buck?
All I can say at this point is that they are the one brand of auger I would avoid buying.
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I have had 2 issues with my Eskimo, But they have always fixed my issues , and added in extras just to make me even happier.. Eskimo has won back my next Auger purchase !
Im not sure why Jiffy is going downhill, but your comment about making a buck is the only thing that makes sense to me !
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12-17-2014, 11:44 AM
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Rapala/Normark must have bought them like everything else.. the sad truth of "super companies".. like everything these days.. quality is just ****.
BTW Badass you're 2 ply bud!! bahahaha
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12-17-2014, 11:54 AM
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got my model 30 about 7 yrs ago, I think yr after they sold to another company, but yes definitely cheaper made and not as reliable...
Iv had no issues except for when I first bought it, the carb was set for the sea level where its made, shipped up to canada where elevation is higher the carb needs to be adjusted for our altitude, jiffy got my auger adjusted at ritchie's a jiffy dealer back then, no cost for adjustment, and has been trouble free since gas treatment in fuel after winter and and fires up no issues when ice comes...
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12-17-2014, 12:51 PM
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cost cutting in an ever more competitive market.
people want the best until its time to get off the wallet...then they run to next cheapest option.
People complain about plastic parts, offshore made blades...poor service etc etc...but want the lowest prices...cant have it both ways.
we all asked for this.
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12-17-2014, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T
cost cutting in an ever more competitive market.
people want the best until its time to get off the wallet...then they run to next cheapest option.
People complain about plastic parts, offshore made blades...poor service etc etc...but want the lowest prices...cant have it both ways.
we all asked for this.
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Bingo.
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12-17-2014, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T
cost cutting in an ever more competitive market.
people want the best until its time to get off the wallet...then they run to next cheapest option.
People complain about plastic parts, offshore made blades...poor service etc etc...but want the lowest prices...cant have it both ways.
we all asked for this.
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Maybe its just me but forking over half a paycheck or more for a product with way below grade plastic parts designed for some tropical country instead of the climate they are sold to be used in isnt something I asked for. Companies are going to find out eventually that maybe profit isnt everything when sales bottom out because people drop their products for someone elses . Only so many first and only time buyers out there. No wonder jiffy has zero customer service, they couldnt afford to cover all the crappy parts that break on their augers!
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12-17-2014, 01:54 PM
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I used one of those new jiffy's last year, broke pull handle first pull in -20... just garbage. You wonder why you see everyone trying to buy 10 year old jiffys!!
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12-17-2014, 02:24 PM
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When tecesumeh went under it forced them to re-vamp thier auger and while doing this went to cheaper materials and engines that dont run worth a dang.
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12-17-2014, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WayneChristie
Maybe its just me but forking over half a paycheck or more for a product with way below grade plastic parts designed for some tropical country instead of the climate they are sold to be used in isnt something I asked for. Companies are going to find out eventually that maybe profit isnt everything when sales bottom out because people drop their products for someone elses . Only so many first and only time buyers out there. No wonder jiffy has zero customer service, they couldnt afford to cover all the crappy parts that break on their augers!
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ill admit im generalizing.
I dont have a ton of experience with any augers made in the past 15 years.
But the ones i have looked at and few that ive tried all seem to suffer from the same cost cutting quality issues jiffy is guilty of these days.
If the best thing you can say about a product is the company fixed it when the crap parts broke....Thats worth something i guess...but not much IMO
This obviously applies to much more than just augers...as i already said...i was generalizing.
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12-17-2014, 02:55 PM
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Investors returns .... should have honda , yanmar, sthil or other world class power . But they dont cause cost per unot goes up??? Mine says union made in the usa ..that doesn't happen any more so we get what we asked for walmart class junk. Hey the new ones are cheap....the first time round .
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12-17-2014, 05:37 PM
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i've had my jiffy model 30 for 12+ years and still works great. i have heard some company makes a kit that you can convert a chainsaw to a power head to replace the typical ice auger.
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12-17-2014, 06:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T
cost cutting in an ever more competitive market.
people want the best until its time to get off the wallet...then they run to next cheapest option.
People complain about plastic parts, offshore made blades...poor service etc etc...but want the lowest prices...cant have it both ways.
we all asked for this.
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Exactly. Couldn't agree more. We also ask for it when we demand lighter augers. Best way to make them lighter is to use more plastics.
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12-17-2014, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wellpastcold
Exactly. Couldn't agree more. We also ask for it when we demand lighter augers. Best way to make them lighter is to use more plastics.
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my propane weighs as much as a volkswagon beetle after Ive dragged it half way across the lake, dont think the crappy plastic parts cut much off that.
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12-17-2014, 11:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geezle
I remember back when I was a young pup that pretty much all the ice augers I'd see we're Jiffy's, and it seemed like they always work great. Heck, my dad still has his which is likely nearly as old as I am.
Seems like these days the reputation of Jiffy has really tanked, with lower quality products, and poor customer service.
So what happened? Different management? Were they bought out by somebody else? Are they just being too cheap in trying to make a buck?
All I can say at this point is that they are the one brand of auger I would avoid buying.
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I see nothing wrong with Jiffy at all best peanut butter you can get have it on my toast every morning
Mack
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12-18-2014, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneChristie
Maybe its just me but forking over half a paycheck or more for a product with way below grade plastic parts designed for some tropical country instead of the climate they are sold to be used in isnt something I asked for. Companies are going to find out eventually that maybe profit isnt everything when sales bottom out because people drop their products for someone elses . Only so many first and only time buyers out there. No wonder jiffy has zero customer service, they couldnt afford to cover all the crappy parts that break on their augers!
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This is pretty much how I look at it as well. Jiffy used to be on top of the heap, but they're getting themselves such a poor reputation that eventually sales are going to tank and they're going to be on the bottom of the pile.
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12-18-2014, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mackinaw
I see nothing wrong with Jiffy at all best peanut butter you can get have it on my toast every morning
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That's Jif Mack...Jif
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Time, it makes you old. Experience makes you wise. It's only a fool who judges life by what he sees in other peoples' eyes.
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12-18-2014, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_W
When tecesumeh went under it forced them to re-vamp thier auger and while doing this went to cheaper materials and engines that dont run worth a dang.
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This. Then followed the worst product support and customer service in the industry.
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12-18-2014, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezle
That's Jif Mack...Jif
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Ohhhh ya guess I need new glasses
But their popcorn is good ..right?
Mack
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12-18-2014, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mackinaw
Ohhhh ya guess I need new glasses
But their popcorn is good ..right?
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This is true...love making Jiffy Pop while out camping
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Time, it makes you old. Experience makes you wise. It's only a fool who judges life by what he sees in other peoples' eyes.
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12-18-2014, 12:24 PM
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Could this be an opportunity for a consumer to develop a power ice auger that meets the gold standard of quality & operation, with outstanding service to match?
West Jet achieved this in the aviation world, beginning with the vision of one man who believed there is a better way to deliver quality service with a decent price.
How many power ice auger manufacturers are there in the market today?
Jiffy
Eskimo
Strikemaster
Ion
Husqvarna
Clam
HT
In addition to power heads which can be used for earth and ice:
Stihl
Tanaka
Viper
Echo
Badger
Efco
Earthquake/Ardisam (does this model look familiar?)
Mitsubishi
& many various models from Asia
This could be an opportunity for an enterprising group to design and develop an ice auger that will meet the needs of a rugged outdoorsman. The problem lies in competition as Jamie Black R/T already said.
Consumers want the product cheaper, lighter and more dependable. With public companies continually driving to lower costs while increasing sales - to appease the bottom line toting shareholders, there isn't much room left for quality.
Who's up for the challenge?
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12-18-2014, 03:46 PM
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All i know is that when my model 30 ever blows up it will be the last Jiffy i ever own !!!!!!
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12-18-2014, 05:18 PM
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All i know is that when my model 30 ever blows up it will be the last Jiffy i ever own !!!!!!
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Guys laying on a beach in Mexico talking about ice augers. Knew you would miss winter! Other than a couple plastic part issues and zero customer service I do like my propane. Starts right now, and with sharp blades all I have to do is aim it and it drills by itself. New jiffy workout is carrying it out on the lake instead of yanking the starter cord for 10 minutes.still going to be my last jiffy though because of the nonexistant customer servicd if nothing else
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12-18-2014, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fisherman Guy
Could this be an opportunity for a consumer to develop a power ice auger that meets the gold standard of quality & operation, with outstanding service to match?
West Jet achieved this in the aviation world, beginning with the vision of one man who believed there is a better way to deliver quality service with a decent price.
How many power ice auger manufacturers are there in the market today?
Jiffy
Eskimo
Strikemaster
Ion
Husqvarna
Clam
HT
In addition to power heads which can be used for earth and ice:
Stihl
Tanaka
Viper
Echo
Badger
Efco
Earthquake/Ardisam (does this model look familiar?)
Mitsubishi
& many various models from Asia
This could be an opportunity for an enterprising group to design and develop an ice auger that will meet the needs of a rugged outdoorsman. The problem lies in competition as Jamie Black R/T already said.
Consumers want the product cheaper, lighter and more dependable. With public companies continually driving to lower costs while increasing sales - to appease the bottom line toting shareholders, there isn't much room left for quality.
Who's up for the challenge?
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think about it daily.
btw, badger is jiffy, and jiffy is owned by the feldmann family who started the company.
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12-18-2014, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Crankbait
think about it daily.
btw, badger is jiffy, and jiffy is owned by the feldmann family who started the company.
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And Eskimo and Ion are both Ardisam
Really there are a lot of good units already out there, depending on the prove point you're willing to pay.
Jiffy's aren't priced significantly lower than a lot of other augers out there...So where's the savings?
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12-18-2014, 10:37 PM
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I bought my Jiffy the year after they switched over to the new Engine and all the old ones were getting blown out. I compared the visible quality differences in the new and old models and it was a no brainer. Mine has never let me down and this is the 4th season I have used it now. It doesn't start on the first pull, probably takes 5-10 pulls. But I will take that over a newer inferior product that brakes once it gets cold out. Plastic and cold don't mix.
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12-18-2014, 10:53 PM
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