Alberta record Rainbow CAUGHT!

[FishingFrenzy]

Triploids occur in nature... ergo its not really a ``unnatural fish`` ...

[chuck0039]

Diefenbaker is a huge lake. It don't matter if the fish was released, escaped or natural, I'm sure a huge amount of time and effort went into finding that world record rainbow. That rainbow belongs in the record book

[TyreeUM]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

So, what if escaped bass pro fish did obtain record size?

Then what?

Should commercially raised, escaped fish be eligible?

Yes, because there is no way to negate one and accept the other, unless you are willing to negate all records that are not pure strain, fertile and caught from native watersheds. If it was caught from a public waterbody using ifga accepted angling methods, then how could it not be accepted. Any fish other than a pure strain native may have any one, or multiple competitive advantages (genetic or environmental) that have allowed the fish to grow to "unnatural" proportions. With respect to rainbow trout, there are few left on this planet that do not carry some lineage that can be traced back to commercial operations, commercial operations with a goal to selectively breed bigger, stronger, faster growing and disease resistant fish...

[fishman]

Originally Posted by HOGSLAYER

Wot Woot Some body give this man a cigar

U know where u can stick your cigar

[Badgoodguy]

I was informed by a good source that the Rainbow that they say came out of Maligne Lake which is the Alberta Record actually came from the 1st lake from the valley of the 5 lakes south of Jasper.

Was long time ago.

[GPBuzz]

Originally Posted by Badgoodguy

I was informed by a good source that the Rainbow that they say came out of Maligne Lake which is the Alberta Record actually came from the 1st lake from the valley of the 5 lakes south of Jasper.

Was long time ago.

I spoke to a biologist at Maligne a year after it was caught and they are sure that fish is not from Maligne but cannot prove it

[Badgoodguy]

I lived and guided and fished Jasper for 15 years

[Outcasts]

I personally will not recognize any of the farm raised fish that are considered in the record books. Argue all you want about triploids happening naturally in the environment but these fish in particular have not had the same predator pressures as a smelt or even as a egg as the wild fish, bonavista holding a record fish is ridiculous, the fish began life in the wild as brood stock around 8-12 lbs and the usually more dangerous youth of the the fish was spent in a concrete lane with no natural predators, when this fish enters the lake it is already an alpha predator. I don't recognize the triploids from defenbeiker for that reason as well. These fish are freaks of science and the result of poor farming practices, not freaks of nature. This applies to deer, elk and any farm raised species, the conditions are ideal and the survival rates are stupid high, so is anyone else that believes they should be considered against natural wild fish that fought their way to the top instead of living in a box and fattened up until they are no longer vulnerable. When baseball decides to make record books for the dopers vs the natural athletes we will not see a difference in the fishing records but i still don't think barry bonds is the all time home run record holder, neither are these fish. just my humble opinion, impressive fish...for a farm fish.

And yes if i caught this fish i would not be overly proud, the same way i hold a 19" cutty or a 22" brown in higher regard than the 12 lb triploid i caught in midnapore lake, it fought like a log and didn't look much better.

[fish gunner]

The natural triployd ya'll are looking for is the greenwood rainbow iirc

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

The natural triployd ya'll are looking for is the greenwood rainbow iirc

Jewel Lake had monsters before the introduction of bait fish.

Shrimp fed behemoths.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Jewel Lake had monsters before the introduction of bait fish.

Shrimp fed behemoths.

yep, like the legendary libby fish

[outdoors forever]

I really need to come on the Fishing Discussion more often.

You guys are funny.......

[Carson13]

So does anyone know the actual weight of the fish and when it was caught?

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by Carson13

So does anyone know the actual weight of the fish and when it was caught?

20 pounds
14 oz
Caught in September
Private lake, I don't think it qualifies for any record.

Killer fish!

Jamie

[Wild&Free]

So, not to get on the GMO/non GMO bandwagon in this discussion and not to discredit the efforts of the Fishinggeeks does anyone know where and what size the non GMO record rainbow is from?

It was Lake P'end Orille in Idaho, in 1956(iirc). Gerard strain rainbows were first introduced to the lake in 1950 as fingerlings. The fish weighed in around 37lbs at 6-7 years old.

Not native fish species, in non native waters was considered the world record before the geeks starting pulling them footballs out of deifenbaker.

I do agree with Bee though, IGFA is behind the times.

Though, I think I'm going to raise a rainbow in a big tank feed it till its 49lbs and the put a hook in it's lips, let it go into some small stocked lake up north here and reel her in.

[BeeGuy]

20lbs is huge!

Get the net!!!

[Carson13]

Which lake was it caught out of? Or does anyone know?

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by Jamie

20 pounds
14 oz
Caught in September
Private lake, I don't think it qualifies for any record.

Killer fish!

Jamie

That's all .... here I thought we were talking about a big rainbow. Some old pics I've seen from Jewel Lake I believe were of 50-60 pound rainbows..now that is impressive.
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e. It wasn’t long before reports of good rainbow catches started to trickle out of the Boundary Country. In 1913 a miner named George White captured two massive rainbows. Reports had the fish weighing in at 56 and 48 pounds. A photograph of these fish is all that exists now. It was widely circulated at the time of the catch and in the years since.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Badgoodguy

I was informed by a good source that the Rainbow that they say came out of Maligne Lake which is the Alberta Record actually came from the 1st lake from the valley of the 5 lakes south of Jasper.

Was long time ago.

and the lake was closed at the time.

[Zeb]

I would have to guess Lake Bonavista too because I have caught them. I only got out twice last year but I caught a few over 10 pounds so I know they are in there. This year I will be focusing on the hogs I know are in there and I will post up some pictures of any I get over 15+ pounds.

[elkhunterll]

Thats cool

[niwrek]

I caught an elephant by the tAle in Saskatchewan when I was a kid.....my parents made me let him go

[BGSH]

Originally Posted by niwrek

I caught an elephant by the tAle in Saskatchewan when I was a kid.....my parents made me let him go

Any photos????:

[2beornottobe]

Hey Outcast show me a lake in Alberta that is is not stocked rainbows? Stupid argument

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by 2beornottobe

Hey Outcast show me a lake in Alberta that is is not stocked rainbows? Stupid argument

Numerous lakes in Alberta have naturally reproducing populations of rainbows which makes them quite different from stockers, triploids and farmed fish.

Fail to see what point you are trying to make in that regard.