Fines for fishing without a licence?

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by williell

Just curious, if someone is convicted and fined for fishing without a licence, would it be considered a crime? If they're filing a job application form, and it comes to the question of whether or not they've ever been convicted of a crime without a pardon being granted, would one need to check the box to say they were caught fishing without a license?

Seriously you need to ask ??? Were you arrested, did you appear in court.? Have you had a speeding ticket ?? Wow dont mean to pick on ya but wow. No it is not a criminal offense.

[fluxcore]

I've fished withought a lincence when I was younger,,,,figured when I was 17 I could pass as 16 and I did even as 17 lol. As I got older I relized what's at risk and I maned up and have had a licence ever since, don't need a fine and it's peace of mind on the water.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

No it is not a criminal offense.

That would have sufficed.

[CraigJ]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

Seriously you need to ask ??? Were you arrested, did you appear in court.? Have you had a speeding ticket ?? Wow dont mean to pick on ya but wow. No it is not a criminal offense.

Actually yes he would have been under arrest. Not in the traditional sense of being placed in handcuffs, sitting in the back of a police car, having being read your charter right, etc, but in the legal sense that he is being detained by a peace officer, certain rights are being removed from him and he is not lawfully able to just walk away and leave. Yes if he did not admit guilt and pay the fine he would have been required to appear in court before a Justice of the Peace. If he did not complete either of these options by the date specified on the Summons, an arrest warrant would be issued and he WOULD then be arrested, handcuffed, read charter rights, etc.

For your own information when you are stopped for speeding you ARE under arrest. Just try taking off when you have been stopped and see what happens.

Personally I think it is better to ask than to not ask if you don't know something.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by CraigJ

Actually yes he would have been under arrest. Not in the traditional sense of being placed in handcuffs, sitting in the back of a police car, having being read your charter right, etc, but in the legal sense that he is being detained by a peace officer, certain rights are being removed from him and he is not lawfully able to just walk away and leave. Yes if he did not admit guilt and pay the fine he would have been required to appear in court before a Justice of the Peace. If he did not complete either of these options by the date specified on the Summons, an arrest warrant would be issued and he WOULD then be arrested, handcuffed, read charter rights, etc.

For your own information when you are stopped for speeding you ARE under arrest. Just try taking off when you have been stopped and see what happens.

Personally I think it is better to ask than to not ask if you don't know something.

Speeding is not a criminal offence (which is what is being asked about I think) and you are not under arrest. Now trying to evade the police after you have been stopped is a criminal offence, but it's unrelated to the speeding. What job applications and other documents usually ask is "Have you been convicted of a criminal offence?" I think for speeding or a fishing license violation you can truthfully answer "No."

[CraigJ]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Speeding is not a criminal offence (which is what is being asked about I think) and you are not under arrest. Now trying to evade the police after you have been stopped is a criminal offence, but it's unrelated to the speeding. What job applications and other documents usually ask is "Have you been convicted of a criminal offence?" I think for speeding or a fishing license violation you can truthfully answer "No."

Correct speeding in not a criminal offence, but you ARE under arrest. The traffic safety act details the powers of arrest. Speeding is one of several traffic offences for which you can be arrested. I absolutely agree the answer to the question being asked should be no.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by CraigJ

Correct speeding in not a criminal offence, but you ARE under arrest. The traffic safety act details the powers of arrest. Speeding is one of several traffic offences for which you can be arrested. I absolutely agree the answer to the question being asked should be no.

Detained is not arrested , a police or F&W Officer can question any one they wish ...now run away tell us how that goez. Lol . one will always be arrested for a criminal offence when caught . The the officer can release you on your own recognizance. Criminal code covers crime not fishing and general traffic offences.

[CraigJ]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

Detained is not arrested , a police or F&W Officer can question any one they wish ...now run away tell us how that goez. Lol . one will always be arrested for a criminal offence when caught . The the officer can release you on your own recognizance. Criminal code covers crime not fishing and general traffic offences.

Agreed. Detention and arrest are different but arrest is not limited to the criminal code. You can be arrested for bylaw or provincial offences as well. I never said fishing or traffic offences were criminal. Anyway I think this is getting way off topic.

I think the original poster is good to say 'no' when answering the question on the job application, as it relates to fishing with no license.

[Kim473]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Speeding is not a criminal offence (which is what is being asked about I think) and you are not under arrest. Now trying to evade the police after you have been stopped is a criminal offence, but it's unrelated to the speeding. What job applications and other documents usually ask is "Have you been convicted of a criminal offence?" I think for speeding or a fishing license violation you can truthfully answer "No."

Just see what happens to you when your caught speeding, 100 km /hr over the posted limit through a constuction zone or school zone.

[NEWB]

Originally Posted by Kim473

Just see what happens to you when your caught speeding, 100 km /hr over the posted limit through a constuction zone or school zone.

In Sherwood Park apparently nothing. You get a court appearance.

I suppose 100 km/h in a 30km/h school zone (70 over and just over 3 times the speed limit) is not enough to impound a car..

The precedence has been set..

http://globalnews.ca/news/1544813/sh...mh-in-30-zone/

But I digress…

Fishing with out a license is not something I want to do.

Fish and Wild life have a way of checking to see if your license is valid when it is not on your person.

The fines and potential loss of gear are not worth it. Also I have no issues paying a few dollars for a fishing licence every year.

[CraigJ]

Originally Posted by NEWB

I suppose 100 km/h in a 30km/h school zone (70 over and just over 3 times the speed limit) is not enough to impound a car..

The government here needs to get off their butt and change the laws like they did in BC. Police don't have the authority to seize a vehicle in Alberta for a common speeding offence.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by CraigJ

The government here needs to get off their butt and change the laws like they did in BC. Police don't have the authority to seize a vehicle in Alberta for a common speeding offence.

70 in a 30 is a common speeding offence? I think that exceeding double the speed limit or 50 over is considered dangerous driving and you can have your license yanked on the spot and your vehicle towed and impounded.

LC

[NEWB]

Originally Posted by CraigJ

The government here needs to get off their butt and change the laws like they did in BC. Police don't have the authority to seize a vehicle in Alberta for a common speeding offence.

I had to read up on that.

Sadly you are correct. There are not any ways to impound for excessive speed.

I do support impounding for excessive speed for certain situations.

I don't want to derail this thread any further...

Back to fishing!