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07-16-2017, 04:56 AM
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Smaller stature shooter
My wife drew her cow moose tag this year. she currently shoots a savage axis youth model in 243win for hunting. Her current hunting load is a 87gr hornady sp, I don't recall the powder charge but it's running about 2800fps. In my opinion this is at least marginal for cow moose. If the shot is around 100-150 yds on a broadside animal for sure but a quartering running or longer range not so much. I've begun her on a 6.5 swede with 140gr hand loaded to 2500fps and she manages the recoil ok from the bench but She's 4'10" and 100lbs and finds handling the full sized rifle very difficult. My question is does anyone have a 100gr bonded bullet load for the 243? Best case we buy her a 7mm08 or similar caliber in a youth model but the state of the oil industry still has t allowed us any disposable income.
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07-16-2017, 07:02 AM
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Look up Noslers data for the 100 grain Partition with IMR 7828, it's a potent load!
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07-16-2017, 07:17 AM
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I would be looking at the Barnes TSX, they are a bit lighter, but they hold together and penetrate.
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07-16-2017, 07:29 AM
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I have used 100gr Hornady interlocks with a healthy charge of IMR 4350 behind it. Held together pretty well. But if the target animal is moose specifically I would go with a Nosler Partition or as elk stated tsx.
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07-16-2017, 07:42 AM
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I load a 95gr partition over 41.0gr of IMR 4350 and cci 200 primer. Chrony'd at 2960.
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07-16-2017, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bobinthesky
Look up Noslers data for the 100 grain Partition with IMR 7828, it's a potent load!
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And will kill anything that walks in North America easily...don't get all caught up and the rest of the BS that may spew periodically sometimes the m is silent when following the masses...fill the freezer!
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07-16-2017, 09:45 AM
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Try the 80gr Barnes ttsx, you will get all the punch you need to for moose out 300 yards
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07-16-2017, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
I would be looking at the Barnes TSX, they are a bit lighter, but they hold together and penetrate.
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Agree. I would use my 243 with the ttsx for moose if that's what I had in my hand at the time. I've sure killed a pile of deer with it over the years and never felt under gunned.
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07-16-2017, 10:02 AM
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There is nothing wrong with 100gr. Speer boat tails.
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07-16-2017, 11:15 AM
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Use an 85 grain Barnes TSX or similar and she should pick her shot. Broadside it will be fine. All the best to her on her hunt.
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07-16-2017, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors
Try the 80gr Barnes ttsx, you will get all the punch you need to for moose out 300 yards
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X3 exactly what id do,
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07-16-2017, 06:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albertaguide
My wife drew her cow moose tag this year. she currently shoots a savage axis youth model in 243win for hunting. Her current hunting load is a 87gr hornady sp, I don't recall the powder charge but it's running about 2800fps. In my opinion this is at least marginal for cow moose. If the shot is around 100-150 yds on a broadside animal for sure but a quartering running or longer range not so much. I've begun her on a 6.5 swede with 140gr hand loaded to 2500fps and she manages the recoil ok from the bench but She's 4'10" and 100lbs and finds handling the full sized rifle very difficult. My question is does anyone have a 100gr bonded bullet load for the 243? Best case we buy her a 7mm08 or similar caliber in a youth model but the state of the oil industry still has t allowed us any disposable income.
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I would try switching to another bullet with similar weight. TSX should be OK? I would have her avoid the running or longer range shots. Plan on eating moose
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07-16-2017, 07:26 PM
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Id be looking into shooting the 90gr Accubond.
Shoot her behind the shoulder not in the shoulder.
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07-17-2017, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 7mmremmag
Id be looking into shooting the 90gr Accubond.
Shoot her behind the shoulder not in the shoulder.
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Yikes hope your talking about the moose and not his wife😳
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07-17-2017, 07:59 PM
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If she likes the Swede buck some off the butt and it will good to go.
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07-17-2017, 10:37 PM
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What is the make and model of the 6.5 swede you have?
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07-18-2017, 04:59 AM
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I own a model '96 and a Remington 700 in 6.5x55. She'd use the Remington as the 96 does need a bit more experienced shooter. Ejection is finicky too fast or
Slow and the case just falls back into the action, and the safety was removed to mount low profile rings not to mention the 2 stage heavy trigger that feels
Like your dragging a sand bag across a gravel road. (It's a project rifle. I guess I'll be picking up a few bullets and powder and start developing a load.
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07-22-2017, 02:58 PM
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07-22-2017, 03:21 PM
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I could dig up pics (if you want) of a cow-moose & her heart, that was shot ~18 months ago by a friend of mine. Posted them here a while ago.
243win & 100 grain Hornady Interlock factory ammo @ 100-150m, she took half-a-dozen wobbly steps then keeled over dead.
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07-25-2017, 06:07 PM
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The 243 with a partition will do. Also the 6.5x55 with a 140 partition will probably exit a moose at any angle.
The most important thing for any shooter is length of pull on the stock. Most rifles are made with too long of a length of pull. Too long of a LOP increases felt recoil a ton. Have your wife rest the stock of a rifle with the buttpad in the crease of her elbow against her bicep. The distance to her trigger finger is the ideal LOP for her.
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07-25-2017, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Throttle_monkey1
The 243 with a partition will do. Also the 6.5x55 with a 140 partition will probably exit a moose at any angle.
The most important thing for any shooter is length of pull on the stock. Most rifles are made with too long of a length of pull. Too long of a LOP increases felt recoil a ton. Have your wife rest the stock of a rifle with the buttpad in the crease of her elbow against her bicep. The distance to her trigger finger is the ideal LOP for her.
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That method provides a rough estimation of the proper LOP, but things such as the length of neck, etc are also factors in determining the ideal LOP.
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07-25-2017, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
That method provides a rough estimation of the proper LOP, but things such as the length of neck, etc are also factors in determining the ideal LOP.
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Exactly. I asked one of the worlds premiere stock makers about that. He said that all that that tells you is the length between the crook of your elbow and your trigger finger.
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07-25-2017, 08:01 PM
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You guys are like those two old muppets from the muppet show. The point is to make sure the rifle fits her. At 4'10" I bet even a 12" LOP is too long. OP should definitely try what I mentioned to get a ballpark idea.
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07-25-2017, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Throttle_monkey1
You guys are like those two old muppets from the muppet show. The point is to make sure the rifle fits her. At 4'10" I bet even a 12" LOP is too long. OP should definitely try what I mentioned to get a ballpark idea.
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Wrong information is wrong information.
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07-25-2017, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Throttle_monkey1
You guys are like those two old muppets from the muppet show. The point is to make sure the rifle fits her. At 4'10" I bet even a 12" LOP is too long. OP should definitely try what I mentioned to get a ballpark idea.
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Which one is Waldorf, and which one is Statler?
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07-25-2017, 10:15 PM
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For the OP.
Not only will the LOP be a challenge, but grip to trigger dimensions are going to be very troublesome with smaller sized hands.
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07-25-2017, 10:54 PM
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If she feels comfortable with her 243, then go get that Moose. The both of you will do fine as this is part of the harvest.
Congratulations on your draw results as the both of you plan forward.
Don
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07-25-2017, 11:54 PM
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Honestly, most people adapt well. My wife isn't a shooter and has killed stuff with my rifle for years. And mine have the bolt handle on the left side. She is 5' 3" and 110lbs. She hasn't missed or complained.
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07-26-2017, 07:11 AM
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My wife drew a cow elk tag this year. It's been a few years since she's shot so we have been hitting the range. She is 5'4" and all my rifles including my youth sized savage 243 are too big (LOP ) too heavy, eye relief too far forward causing her to strain forward. Even off sticks she was about minute of truck tire at 100 yds. I noticed that even length from grip to trigger was a bit awkward for her. After the first time out I convinced her to let me buy her a gun that fits her( I've been wanting to get her her own gun for years) reluctantly she gave me the go ahead( money is tight this year but what the heck:-) I bought a Browning A bolt micro Midas in 243 and mounted a Bushnell banner dusk till dark 3x9 in low rings. First time she shouldered the rifle all she said was "I can't wait to shoot this, it feels like it was made for me" the next trip out we sighted it in and she started shooting at the 100yd target and was grouping under 2" standing off triggersticks. She then started knocking the 8" gong at 200yds unsupported.
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07-26-2017, 07:36 AM
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6.5x55
If you have a Remington 700 in 6.5x55, I would be looking for a used wood stock. Cut it to the same LOP as the 243 and install a grind to fit recoil pad. You will have the modified stock any time your wife draws an elk or moose tag.
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Get a Boyd with the proper LOP and a limbsaver installed
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