Am I right or way off base???? Arrow weight

[CAJC]

So... a local gunshop who "dabbles in archery" sold a buddy of mine PSE Radial X Weave SL 200 arrows for his 80 lb bow..... After discovering this I called the shop owner and after a heated discussion I need to know if I am right or not...

Minimum arrow 4.78g per lb of draw. These arrows are 7.5g/in and cut to 28"
28x7.5 = 210g

Assuming 125g broadhead and 15g for fletching that brings us up to 350g

80lb bow x 4.78g/lb = 382g arrow minimum....

Am I wrong???? (I often am haha)

[monstermulie]

Originally Posted by CAJC

So... a local gunshop who "dabbles in archery" sold a buddy of mine PSE Radial X Weave SL 200 arrows for his 80 lb bow..... After discovering this I called the shop owner and after a heated discussion I need to know if I am right or not...

Minimum arrow 4.78g per lb of draw. These arrows are 7.5g/in and cut to 28"
28x7.5 = 210g

Assuming 125g broadhead and 15g for fletching that brings us up to 350g

80lb bow x 4.78g/lb = 382g arrow minimum....

Am I wrong???? (I often am haha)

To my understanding you need to have 5 g/lb or else the bow manufacture may not warranty any issues with the bow.

Even from looking at the Radial X Weave Chart a 28" arrow and an 80lb bow he should be shooting a Radial X Weave 300. If his arrow is any longer he may even consider going to a Radial X Weave 400. Another reason for going to a 400 is he may need to if he is wanting to shoot a 125 grain head.


This is just my understanding and i'm sure someone who knows a lot more will chime in.

[LA_bowhunter]

Originally Posted by monstermulie

To my understanding you need to have 5 g/lb or else the bow manufacture may not warranty any issues with the bow.

Even from looking at the Radial X Weave Chart a 28" arrow and an 80lb bow he should be shooting a Radial X Weave 300. If his arrow is any longer he may even consider going to a Radial X Weave 400. Another reason for going to a 400 is he may need to if he is wanting to shoot a 125 grain head.


This is just my understanding and i'm sure someone who knows a lot more will chime in.

X2

definitely seems like a light arrow for 80 lb bow.

[Lefty-Canuck]

I would say you are right....many shoot 100gr tips now too....

LC

[Bonescreek]

Hunting or Target ?

Would have to check the specs. in SFA to figure out if the Xwieve 200s
are "200" in spine ? That would make them stiffer than "300s" which is
what you would want on a heavy peak.

The grains per inch number don't sound right.

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Ummm that guy is daffy....the 200 shaft isnt anywhere near recommended for any 80 lb bow AT ANY LENTGH arrow....

that 5 Gr mininum is IBO also...80 lb is way above that [70LB]

... .300 MIN ...@28" arrow

Thats downright dangerous in my books...



Neil

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

And here is a reminder and a fact on why and why NOT !!!



Neil

[CAJC]

Well I am glad to hear I am right!! (how do I screen shot this to show the wife? hahahaha) Glad i dont have to make the i'm sorry phone call. Now its trying to get buddy's money back or at least the proper arrows

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by CAJC

Well I am glad to hear I am right!! (how do I screen shot this to show the wife? hahahaha) Glad i dont have to make the i'm sorry phone call. Now its trying to get buddy's money back or at least the proper arrows

Send an email to the arrow manufacturer...likely find it on their webpage.

Give them the info and bow specs, wait for their reply and take that into the store with you....there should be NO QUESTIONS asked, that store set themselves up for a law suit.

LC

[Mike_W]

Seems light for an 80 lb bow. Don't forget the insert and nock weight .... still too light though.
Did this same shop sell him the bow at the same time? or did your buddy go in asking for an arrow and this is what they sold him?

[CAJC]

Originally Posted by Mike_W

Seems light for an 80 lb bow. Don't forget the insert and nock weight .... still too light though.
Did this same shop sell him the bow at the same time? or did your buddy go in asking for an arrow and this is what they sold him?

Went in with his bow and this is what their "expert" recommended to him. Scary to think that people think they are talking to someone who knows their sh*t and something like this happens.

[CAJC]

Originally Posted by Bonescreek

Hunting or Target ?

Would have to check the specs. in SFA to figure out if the Xwieve 200s
are "200" in spine ? That would make them stiffer than "300s" which is
what you would want on a heavy peak.

The grains per inch number don't sound right.

Its a hunting rig. The 200 are .424 spine and the 300 are .359 i believe

[Bonescreek]

When the arrow makers choose differant scales to go by it leads
to exactly this. Confusion and misunderstanding by the rest of us.

Bow makers have sided with IBO standards for the most part making
it better for all of us all the way around. Not perfect but better than
what we had in the past.

Arrow makers still need to catch up.

That's why we all do not today know how to compare an XLS 2317 to a
cross wieve Toledo huricane 122 for spine or spline.

Americain to Metric conversion tables have to be applied.

Easton could step up and propose a standard, then they should do so.

Let others follow.



Maybe the IBO could back them up, what a quandary that thought is.
Forgive me for being as blunt as a target head.

[RoscoeP]

I shoot that exact same arrow @28" carbon to carbon and it is correct for my 60 pound bow. As CAJC said they are a 200 series not 200 spine, they are .424 spine. They are way to limber for a 80 pound bow and 28" arrows.

[RoscoeP]

I just looked up the radial X-weave chart and supposing he is 29" DL and weight between 76-81 pounds he is at on the outer edge of the 300 series. If he was a 30" DL they suggest the 400 series. The place that recommended them probably thought they were 200 spine not series.

[CAJC]

His bow is 80-90lb. I seriously just cant believe they would mix up spine and series. Even when i called he argued with me. Goes to show that a guy should do his own research and not take things that these so called "experts" have to say at face value. (Bitter much? Haha) Just really gets me. Should be able to trust these guys. And ya maybe it was an honest mistake, but why argue when i try to explain the error??? Ok. Thats it. Rant over for now. Hahaha. Thanks for all the info guys.